Marriage Opinions

[spitfire]

I think marriage=fail. Look at what happens to most men that get married and something goes wrong. Raped in the ass without Vaseline. Lose half of everything you made. Most women are not money oriented like men in the sense to try to make a lot of it by working hard, getting ahead, business etc. They are more oriented toward marrying a "rich" guy so they can be taken care of. Some do work hard and get ahead but it is a minority imo.

So getting married equals the fail as the man stands too much too lose. Kids is a choice but still the fail when shit goes bad.

All in all, it sucks. Mel Gibson will probably have to dish out 490million for his divorce. His soon to be ex wouldn't even be worth 400k if it wasn't for this man. And people justify it by saying she gave him 8 kids. So what? Was it a business investment? He gave her and his kids a life most people dream of.

Hulk Hogan gets to watch his wife go around with a 19 year old while she gets drilled by him and enjoys all of Hogan's ex toys.

There are worst cases out there. But blah.

Discuss.

[Gettin'r'round]

Humanity sucks in general. Men, women, it's all the same.

I'm thankful I'm in the minority

[BAM]

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[waderow]

that is why you marry up my friend

[PdH]

I think marriage=fail. Look at what happens to most men that get married and something goes wrong. Raped in the ass without Vaseline. Lose half of everything you made. Most women are not money oriented like men in the sense to try to make a lot of it by working hard, getting ahead, business etc. They are more oriented toward marrying a "rich" guy so they can be taken care of. Some do work hard and get ahead but it is a minority imo.
So getting married equals the fail as the man stands too much too lose. Kids is a choice but still the fail when shit goes bad.All in all, it sucks. Mel Gibson will probably have to dish out 490million for his divorce. His soon to be ex wouldn't even be worth 400k if it wasn't for this man. And people justify it by saying she gave him 8 kids. So what? Was it a business investment? He gave her and his kids a life most people dream of. Hulk Hogan gets to watch his wife go around with a 19 year old while she gets drilled by him and enjoys all of Hogan's ex toys. Discuss.

Dude, it appears as though you're equating an unsuccessful marriage to the amount of assets one loses because of its failure. I think marriage encompasses a whole lot more. I've been married once, had a 5 year relationship, and a 12 year relationship. I essentially got 'raped' without Vaseline at the end of all of them, but so what, there's an infinite supply of money and opportunity to make money out there. I had a hell of a lot of bliss in those relationships and everything has some type of cost or consequence.

Since my 12 year relationship ended a year and a half ago I've been having a ton o fun and engaging in debauchery when I choose. I lost a lot of assets when it ended, but I certainly wouldn't trade my new found freedom and future opportunities to have those assets back. Life's a trippy journey of experiences, not a destination to be measured by gain. :)

[WRJ]

Getting married requires ALOT of sacrifice, she'll drive you nuts. You'll drive her up the wall. Gotta be best friends (sounds gay but true imo), and talk things out consistently. Big risk, but if it works out its worth it:beer

When a man and woman from Manitoba divorce are they still cousins???
j/k :ne

[BritishColumbian]

man is just another animal…more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who because of divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all. LOL
On a serious note, I have seen it work, people that have been married for 20 years or more and get along like the first time they met, I think thats why you should really be carefull picking a mate!, jmo

[countrychic]

Gotta be best friends (sounds gay but true imo), and talk things out consistently.

Not gay at all!! VERY important to have that in a relationship.

[BCprick]

www.nomarriage.com

[spitfire]

Thanks, great site. I especially like this.

Why marriage no longer makes sense.
Traditional marriage balances different privileges and obligations for men and women. Modern woman wants all the benefits of "equality" without any of the responsibilities.

Traditional Western culture balanced special privileges for women with special obligations, and the same for men.

Equality states that no one get special privileges, and that responsibilities and rights should be equally shared.

Either system is balanced and fair. The problem with modern Western culture is that many women want only the positives from both systems:

They want special privileges from the traditional system (men paying, being "gentlemen" by using special deferential manners and language to women, being the main breadwinner, etc) but not the old-fashioned obligations (being modest and ladylike, being a housewife, etc).

They want the positives of equality (rights, equal access to work and education, etc) without the responsibilities (paying your own way financially a full 50% for life, taking risks with no safety net, and taking your lumps without complaint like men do...not expecting to be protected or sheltered from harsh reality, etc).

You can't take only the good from both systems...you have to take the bad with the good in any balance you strike. When women try to have their cake and eat it in this way, the bad doesn't disappear...it gets paid by men, and this is why the current culture is one of exploitation by selfish hypocritical women...and it's why men are tired of the inequity.

If American women chose one system or the other and took their full share of the bad with the good there would be no problem. But current American culture discourages women being looked at critically, instead projecting all blame unjustly onto men; and so the inequity is rationalized away.

This is why other cultures which haven't got this ****ed up as far as gender relations go, start to look attractive. The women there expect to give as well as get.

[fourarms]

Getting married requires ALOT of sacrifice, she'll drive you nuts. You'll drive her up the wall. Gotta be best friends (sounds gay but true imo), and talk things out consistently. Big risk, but if it works out its worth it:beer

When a man and woman from Manitoba divorce are they still cousins???
j/k :ne

Dumbass, we marry our sisters so no one has to go through the hassle of changing their last name.

[fourarms]

Oh yeah back to the marriage thing

Kids = GREAT

Wife = BAD

Sometimes I wish I was just queer like most of the other guys on this site.

[marino]

I gotta agree with WRJ my wife and I have been together for 13 years (10 years marriage this coming Oct). I would be lying if I said it was all marital bliss. But my wife is with out a doubt one of my best friends and that is what makes us click.

work out the rules early

commitment to a healthy lifestyle keeps you attracted to each other
what are the long term financial goals be on the same page
healthy sexual relationship
similar interests or hobbies
most important make sure that you can be yourself with your woman

[turboturist]

Dude, it appears as though you're equating an unsuccessful marriage to the amount of assets one loses because of its failure. I think marriage encompasses a whole lot more. I've been married once, had a 5 year relationship, and a 12 year relationship. I essentially got 'raped' without Vaseline at the end of all of them, but so what, there's an infinite supply of money and opportunity to make money out there. I had a hell of a lot of bliss in those relationships and everything has some type of cost or consequence.

Since my 12 year relationship ended a year and a half ago I've been having a ton o fun and engaging in debauchery when I choose. I lost a lot of assets when it ended, but I certainly wouldn't trade my new found freedom and future opportunities to have those assets back. Life's a trippy journey of experiences, not a destination to be measured by gain. :)

Nice post bro.

[physique]

Dude, it appears as though you're equating an unsuccessful marriage to the amount of assets one loses because of its failure. I think marriage encompasses a whole lot more. I've been married once, had a 5 year relationship, and a 12 year relationship. I essentially got 'raped' without Vaseline at the end of all of them, but so what, there's an infinite supply of money and opportunity to make money out there. I had a hell of a lot of bliss in those relationships and everything has some type of cost or consequence.

Since my 12 year relationship ended a year and a half ago I've been having a ton o fun and engaging in debauchery when I choose. I lost a lot of assets when it ended, but I certainly wouldn't trade my new found freedom and future opportunities to have those assets back. Life's a trippy journey of experiences, not a destination to be measured by gain. :)

whats good for one isnt good for another. so i disagree to what u say about. but thats your opinion.
just think where u would be in life, if those relationships never failed and your assets werent taken. You could probably retire. (depending how much u make a year i guess)

i agree with you spitfire. men work their asses off to get ahead, and a woman deems it neccessary to take what isnt even theres! I could care less if there is kids involved or not. The splitting of ones assets is out of hand with the law and judges. the woman stays home all day and watches Oprah, maybe does a load of laundry and grabs the groceries once a week and she is entitled to half of the mans net worth??????????

**** me, cant wait for the roles to ever switch on this. i will gladly stay home and do **** all while the woman makest he money. too bad it will never play out this way.

yes i am anti marriage. I live with my gf of 8 years, but i am fully protected as we share NOTHING! and we have no kids. She could get the best lawyer if she wated and i would still win in court. Its all how u set your shit up.
i am very protective of whats mine, as i bust my ass off to get ahead and dont feel she should get a penny.

[warlock]

you nay be right, you may be wrong.

I guess it depends on the case, every couple is different and have to find what works for them. The basics normally don't change love physical attraction, compatibility long term goals and COMMUNICATION.

I know a couple both 65 met in their nearly 20's and got married in about 3 months they still behave like bf/gf and I met couple sthat should never have met as well.

The trick is: there is no set formula maybe marriage is right for one person but not for the other.

I believe that relationships should last for as long as they are good for both parts...

[spitfire]

I think that most men in the pro marriage mode here have a good relationship. The problem is when and if it all goes bad. Then you'll see how unfair shit is and these words will ring true. Physique hit the nail on the the about the PdH story. You could have had your freedom AND your money and stuff too. That's the point. One should not have to "pay" financially in any way to be in a relationship. The system is ****ed. Marriage is the fail. I will preach it for the rest of my life. Do not get married. Have kids only if you have already worked out the details if things go bad. And basically, do not trust women in general. Not saying all women are bad and all marriages/relationships will end bad. But a large majority will. If a man has any common sense, he will go into any relationship with that in his mind so he can protect himself. Too many women are like vultures out there. Too many turn super bad when a relationship fails. I have seen so much shit happen to so many of my friends I am hard set on this ideology.

[meathelmet]

theres a solution to all this madness, find a girl from somewhere other than canada, usa, actually pretty much anywhere there are english speaking white people. if i ever get married it will be with a woman who was brought up in a family oriented and value filled culture unlike the shitshow we call north america....the women around here have their heads too scrambled with all of the drama these days and its almost impossible for a marriage to last. i will get myself a lovely and sexy phillipine or lebanese girl who has no idea what the hell "the desperate housewives" is and will have a satisfying and long marriage. i suppose this might entail moving away from canada but i guess theres a bright side to everything such as readily accessible gear and no more stephen harper:yeah as well as a loving and satisfying wife and marriage. just my 2cents

[faller]

My wife and i were best friends before we hooked up, that was 31 years ago. We still have awsome sex, enjoy each others company, especially now that the kids are gone. I'll admit i got lucky though, i sure don't see the same thing's in the people around us.

[Ritch]

When a man and woman from Manitoba divorce are they still cousins???
j/k :ne

I gotta remember that one!!!

Green sent your way.

[CanadianIron]

Only get married if you really want to and you know you're dedicated and you're actually willing to put the other persons well being ahead of your own. People are way too selfish these days. I would kill for my wife, i would give up my personal freedom in a second to protect her.

If you wouldnt take a bullet for your woman, dont get married. And if you get married, dont cheat... thats when women go ape shit and take all your stuff.

[Lykalotopus]

^^^^

Good points.

6 happy years here, yeah, I've made my share of mistakes, but we're strong, we've built a great life, we've got a ridiculous house in a great neighbourhood, life doesn't get much better.

[Talo]

Basically if you want it to work you have to be able to change. This goes for both men and women. You change and grow together and talk about your problems with each other . No matter what your going to fight , but you deal with it and move on.

[Redz]

You ahve to chose carefully very very carefully but it can work. I didnt even know my wifes dad was loaded I never even met him until I got married in Cuba so that was a nice bonus. Seriously though there are women worth marrying but finding one is the challange. I have been maried for over 2 years now and my wife is incredible sure things arent perfect but life never is. My wife makes me breakfast almost every day and makes my chicken breasts and lunch for every day too. She doesnt hinder my training she actually helps it immensely. You just need to find someone that fits your life.

[daande]

http://www.nomarriage.com/evening.html

[daande]

Im scared to get married if the wife would stop ****ing me...id definatly cheat and tell her about it.

[_Ragnar_]

Only get married if you really want to and you know you're dedicated and you're actually willing to put the other persons well being ahead of your own. People are way too selfish these days. I would kill for my wife, i would give up my personal freedom in a second to protect her.

If you wouldnt take a bullet for your woman, dont get married. And if you get married, dont cheat... thats when women go ape shit and take all your stuff.

I agree 100% with absolulty everything you just said!

To the people whose wives wont have sex with them after they are married: you need to examine your self and your relationship. You need to fulfill some of your wife's needs. (do the damn dishes!!)