No more Hells angels in Quebec

[Mr.Freeze]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3

[bottleneckblooz]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3

That's awesome.

Now if they can just get rid of the french!

lol just kidding Freeze! (btw, I'm french Acadian:D)

[kawikaratekid]

I don't think that all the charges will stick though. The associates are going to step up and take the charges for the big dogs. This is only good for the media. You'll see them back in Quebec soon enough. They may just ship them in from elsewhere to run $hit

[rickyboy36]

I don't think that all the charges will stick though. The associates are going to step up and take the charges for the big dogs. This is only good for the media. You'll see them back in Quebec soon enough. They may just ship them in from elsewhere to run $hit

Bro,this case has been going on since the late 90's.Some of their own members turned againts them and helped LE get precious info.A bust of almost this magnitude was done a few yrs ago and it locked up alot of people,including the leader MOM BOUCHER.

By the way MR FREEZE,isnt the Progym on Hochelaga owned by them?

[Ritch]

Holy shit, didn`t even hear about that! ^^^ Your question falls in the grey area category my friend...

[kawikaratekid]

I don't think the case has been going on since the 90's I just think that the crimes date back that far.

[kawikaratekid]

We'll never know how many of these guys will actually be convicted but if there's no hard evidence and it's just one trustworthy gang members word against another trustworthy gang member that will be enough to raise a reasonable doubt.

[INked]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3"end of "HA" in Quebec"Are you high?:beat

[guest1]

They'll be back. They are the most ruthless 1%ers on the planet and will find a way to survive through all this. This is a huge setback for them but they didn't get to be the best at what they do for nothing.

[ironwill]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..

[INked]

SUPPORT THE BIG RED MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flagC

[guest1]

I agree with IW. The HA and most other 1%ers at least keep their doings to themselves for the most part. Leave them alone and they won't bite. The blacks , Tamils , Indians , Natives , etc are the real scourge of society (the gangs). It's all about image and bling with these turds. The 1%ers do maintain some balance , and most importantly , keep the strip bars fully stocked with pussy.
During the Quebec turf war of the 90's between the Rock Machine and the HA , not a single patch wearing HA member was killed , although something like 160 people died. The overwhelming majority of deaths were incurred by the RM , puppet clubs and probationary members. The HA have too much influence in the prisons , courts system AND LE to die off this easily. They'll always be in Quebec. A famous biker expert and author ( Yves Lavigne I do believe) once said being a biker is a hobby or job for most 1%ers , but being a biker in Quebec is a religion.

[natenator]

as I've said before. I know a few big wigs in HA Ontario. Not a member just long time friends and if I were ever in trouble for anything remotely serious yuo can bet those boys get my phone call before the cops ever would.

[rickyboy36]

I don't think the case has been going on since the 90's I just think that the crimes date back that far.

It says in our journal de Montreal that a secret investigation started back in the late 90's that lead to these arrests

[guest1]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3


Actually , up until the HA swallowed up pretty much every 1%er club in Ontario ten years ago the public thought that they didn't exist in Ontario. Not true, they just didn't have an active chapter or clubhouse here. Their drugs were always here and therefore they were always a major player. When they decided the time was right they just moved in and said oin us or get outta our way. The few who decided not to join either don't matter or are dead (Bandidos).

[rickyboy36]

yup,
Yesturday LE arrested 156 people which 111 full patch out of 113 and all the assetes House, cars, bike, Bank account, and all their bunker a seize.

So their is only two full pacth left and it take at least 6 to build a chapter so i guess its pretty much the end for them over here.
Quebec will be the only place in the world LE were able to get rid of the Hells Angels


http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090416-054900&alt=3
But the bad thing about this is they will never go out of business.Just watch and see wha happens in the near future.The two that are left will be recruiting strickers and wannabes..and you know what this means.Lots of murders?And innocent people dying

[ironwill]

I agree with IW. The HA and most other 1%ers at least keep their doings to themselves for the most part. Leave them alone and they won't bite. The blacks , Tamils , Indians , Natives , etc are the real scourge of society (the gangs). It's all about image and bling with these turds. The 1%ers do maintain some balance , and most importantly , keep the strip bars fully stocked with pussy.
During the Quebec turf war of the 90's between the Rock Machine and the HA , not a single patch wearing HA member was killed , although something like 160 people died. The overwhelming majority of deaths were incurred by the RM , puppet clubs and probationary members. The HA have too much influence in the prisons , courts system AND LE to die off this easily. They'll always be in Quebec. A famous biker expert and author ( Yves Lavigne I do believe) once said being a biker is a hobby or job for most 1%ers , but being a biker in Quebec is a religion.
yup, Yves Lavigne, hells angels at war the book was called....All about the quebec war etc...He also wrote another called, into the abyss....wicked book, he tells all from the LE side and his rat Anthony Tait side, but damn good author for sure..

[ironwill]

G.B.N.F and really they wont be gone long....:D

[8heyzeus4]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..

HA's are ruthless power hungry sons of bitchs that are responsible for some of the worst crimes, but I still have to whole heartedly agree with you on that point. At least they keep it to themselves and the other bottom rungs of society. You'll never see some innocent bystander accidentally getting shot in the spine or murdered from gun fire in an open busy street. These "bling bling" pricks who shoot first and ask questions later are the real plague on normal folks. I couldn't imagine raising a daughter in scarborough or jane and finch area.

[guest1]

HA's are ruthless power hungry sons of bitchs that are responsible for some of the worst crimes, but I still have to whole heartedly agree with you on that point. At least they keep it to themselves and the other bottom rungs of society. You'll never see some innocent bystander accidentally getting shot in the spine or murdered from gun fire in an open busy street. These "bling bling" pricks who shoot first and ask questions later are the real plague on normal folks. I couldn't imagine raising a daughter in scarborough or jane and finch area.

Actually an innocent young boy was killed in Montreal by a HA car bombing in the 90's. A Toronto woman was shot and crippled by a ****ed up attempted hit a few years back too. She was waiting in line with her teenage daughter to buy a sub.

[piller01]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..
i must agree just look at m.s 13 they are the most ruthless gang out there and there numbers are growing....

[guest1]

yup, Yves Lavigne, hells angels at war the book was called....All about the quebec war etc...He also wrote another called, into the abyss....wicked book, he tells all from the LE side and his rat Anthony Tait side, but damn good author for sure..



The one I recall reading was about the infamous North chapter and how the Montreal chapter had most of them killed because they were out of control. They ended up in the St Lawrence wrapped in sleeping bags. He has written 7 books in all on 1%ers.

[8heyzeus4]

Actually an innocent young boy was killed in Montreal by a HA car bombing in the 90's. A Toronto woman was shot and crippled by a ****ed up attempted hit a few years back too. She was waiting in line with her teenage daughter to buy a sub.


Yea that was Louise Russo. That was MOB related. I see your point though, I guess it is unavoidable. Still, I hate me some 50cent wannabes.

[guest1]

i must agree just look at m.s 13 they are the most ruthless gang out there and there numbers are growing....

They are a joke in Canada though. They are so pathetic here that they openly recruit losers who are not Hispanic. They are about as major as squeegee kids in Canada. They'll never be anything up here. Just a bunch of greasers spray painting around the GTA.

[guest1]

Yea that was Louise Russo. That was MOB related. I see your point though, I guess it is unavoidable. Still, I hate me some 50cent wannabes.

Mob related by HA carried out the hit .

[Bowlcut]

Great with the HA gone all of the Haitians will take over. Because they are a minority and will riot every time one of their gang bangers is arrested so the cops will leave them alone.

[INked]

Great with the HA gone all of the Haitians will take over. Because they are a minority and will riot every time one of their gang bangers is arrested so the cops will leave them alone.:beat

[Mr.Freeze]

Bro,this case has been going on since the late 90's.Some of their own members turned againts them and helped LE get precious info.A bust of almost this magnitude was done a few yrs ago and it locked up alot of people,including the leader MOM BOUCHER.

By the way MR FREEZE,isnt the Progym on Hochelaga owned by them?

your right! BUT its under some one else name.

and Ritch its not a grey area every body in montreal knows this.lolol

[Mr.Freeze]

We'll never know how many of these guys will actually be convicted but if there's no hard evidence and it's just one trustworthy gang members word against another trustworthy gang member that will be enough to raise a reasonable doubt.

99% will be convicted! why? Because in Quebec the LE as to see a judge with the case to see if it will stick in court and if it does then they go on if not they wait for more evidence. It took 3 years and cost 50 million and they had over 200 detective working full time and they got 3 brand new Hells full patch that turn snitches to back them up.

[Mr.Freeze]

"end of "HA" in Quebec"Are you high?:beat

No Sir,

To have a chapter you need minimum 6 Full patch, so right there we have a problem only 2 left. It takes 5 years to have your Colours so the only option will be to give them away for free? thats what they did in 2001 after the last big bust and that what bring them down yesterday.
I see it this way in 2001 after the bust they had orders the to hide their colors cuz all the Heat they had from that big bust. Now with this bust
it will just show to the rest of the world that it could be done and it should be done. This puts all the other chapter in the world in jeopardy and thats not good for them so..
Remenber in 1985 the Hells angels send other Hells angels to kill 5 brothers cuz they were making to much noise.

[spitfire]

So who's footing the 50 million dollar bill and the x million more to process them in court and the trials?

[Mr.Freeze]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..

Thats because you dont live in quebec, like Angus said we had 160 kill by biker. To tell you the truth i will rather have MOB in my city then Bikers more class lolol

[Mr.Freeze]

So who's footing the 50 million dollar bill and the x million more to process them in court and the trials?

lol but dont forget they seized all their assets cars, bike, boats, house,
Bunkres, Banks account ...

[guest]

*sigh*

[Bowlcut]

Thats because you dont live in quebec, like Angus said we had 160 kill by biker. To tell you the truth i will rather have MOB in my city then Bikers more class lolol

Je penske k les bikers a le melleur titty bars.

[BIGABOY]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..


Bump on this one, I would rather see HA's to
BIGABOY

[ironwill]

He has written 7 books in all on 1%ers.
yup, i got em all...very good reading i must say...I find it amazing he is still alive....

[guest1]

yup, i got em all...very good reading i must say...I find it amazing he is still alive....


I've always found that odd too. They shoot a reporter in broad daylight yet they have never attempted to kill a guy who has written more uncomplimentary things about them than everyone else combined.

[guest1]

No Sir,

To have a chapter you need minimum 6 Full patch, so right there we have a problem only 2 left. It takes 5 years to have your Colours so the only option will be to give them away for free? thats what they did in 2001 after the last big bust and that what bring them down yesterday.
I see it this way in 2001 after the bust they had orders the to hide their colors cuz all the Heat they had from that big bust. Now with this bust
it will just show to the rest of the world that it could be done and it should be done. This puts all the other chapter in the world in jeopardy and thats not good for them so..
Remenber in 1985 the Hells angels send other Hells angels to kill 5 brothers cuz they were making to much noise.

I agree with your reasoing here bro. You are right. They made the mistake of pushing ahead the time table in Ontario and took on other gangs like the PDR way too soon. Then they end up with a bunch of rats who never had a strong desire to be HA in the first place. I don't think the rest of the world's HA senior membership will allow Quebec to fast track new members just to have an official club and they won't change the rules to jeopardize the club in the future. What I DO THINK will happen is that many guys will get off scott free and there will be enough members to keep at least a chapter or two afloat. They will be back in time.

[Bowlcut]

Lots of bikers got busted about 2 months ago in Montreal as well.

The only way these gangs will disappear is the decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.

[guest1]

Lots of bikers got busted about 2 months ago in Montreal as well.

The only way these gangs will disappear is the decriminalization of drugs and prostitution.

true

[guest]

if you mean 'gangs' as in organized crime, i disagree. these are enterprising people. money is king. they will find a new racket.

what? no more bootlegging? here we come vegas. yadda yadda.

[Dk]

That's awesome.

Now if they can just get rid of the french!

lol just kidding Freeze! (btw, I'm french Acadian:D)

why?

hells angels dont just walk around killing random people like other P.O.S gangs.

their mostly about business, and if someone deserves it, they get killed. other then that it doesnt really make a difference to the general public or not if their around

[cdnsoldier]

I'll tell you what did the HA in:

On a few raids the cops found detailed pictures of cops families and logs of whereabouts etc.. They had home addresses and schools that vice squad members kids went to including fitness clubsthe wives belonged too etc.

I knew after that it was the beginning of the end for them. I have relatives in teh RCMP and they were some of the guys the HA had info. on. They were pretty shook up by this and a shit storm hit the union because the cops have been forever asking to create a "po box" at the local divisions so they can use that address for anything (wouldn't work anyways as you stil wuld get their info.).

Anyways they are pretty much going to hamer the HA due to this. I doubt they will let up. Good news for you other gangsters is the market is wide open and you'll have very little police interference for a long time.

[cdnsoldier]

why?

hells angels dont just walk around killing random people like other P.O.S gangs.

their mostly about business, and if someone deserves it, they get killed. other then that it doesnt really make a difference to the general public or not if their around



That's a very naive and almost child like assumption.

[Dk]

That's a very naive and almost child like assumption.

WHOOOOPS :puff

[Bowlcut]

if you mean 'gangs' as in organized crime, i disagree. these are enterprising people. money is king. they will find a new racket.

what? no more bootlegging? here we come vegas. yadda yadda.

My rationale is that organized crime makes most of its money off of the sin that the government won't let us engage in.
You are right that they would probably find a new racket, but I don't know what can be more lucrative than drugs.
Maybe they will go into government and chose to steal and loot with the consent of the establishment.

[INked]

No Sir,

To have a chapter you need minimum 6 Full patch, so right there we have a problem only 2 left. It takes 5 years to have your Colours so the only option will be to give them away for free? thats what they did in 2001 after the last big bust and that what bring them down yesterday.
I see it this way in 2001 after the bust they had orders the to hide their colors cuz all the Heat they had from that big bust. Now with this bust
it will just show to the rest of the world that it could be done and it should be done. This puts all the other chapter in the world in jeopardy and thats not good for them so..
Remenber in 1985 the Hells angels send other Hells angels to kill 5 brothers cuz they were making to much noise.
Sherbrooke Quebec calls the shots!:flagC

[Mr.Freeze]

I agree with your reasoing here bro. You are right. They made the mistake of pushing ahead the time table in Ontario and took on other gangs like the PDR way too soon. Then they end up with a bunch of rats who never had a strong desire to be HA in the first place. I don't think the rest of the world's HA senior membership will allow Quebec to fast track new members just to have an official club and they won't change the rules to jeopardize the club in the future. What I DO THINK will happen is that many guys will get off scott free and there will be enough members to keep at least a chapter or two afloat. They will be back in time.

Guys will get off scott free?? i doubt cuz the LE as so much evidence that they had to put it on a freaken Hard drive, thats crazy dont you think? ;)

one more thing, in this Bust LE arrested 11 retired Hells Angels that were retired over 10 years ago, so thats just to show you how deep they dug to hurt them Big time and again its bad news for the rest of the chapter in the world cuz this show to the rest of them that even if your retired it does not mean shit for LE.

[kawikaratekid]

Actually an innocent young boy was killed in Montreal by a HA car bombing in the 90's. A Toronto woman was shot and crippled by a ****ed up attempted hit a few years back too. She was waiting in line with her teenage daughter to buy a sub.

Was the shooting where the Toronto woman crippled HA or Mafia?

[kawikaratekid]

I'll tell you what did the HA in:

On a few raids the cops found detailed pictures of cops families and logs of whereabouts etc.. They had home addresses and schools that vice squad members kids went to including fitness clubsthe wives belonged too etc.

I knew after that it was the beginning of the end for them. I have relatives in teh RCMP and they were some of the guys the HA had info. on. They were pretty shook up by this and a shit storm hit the union because the cops have been forever asking to create a "po box" at the local divisions so they can use that address for anything (wouldn't work anyways as you stil wuld get their info.).

Anyways they are pretty much going to hamer the HA due to this. I doubt they will let up. Good news for you other gangsters is the market is wide open and you'll have very little police interference for a long time.

A PO box is just piece of mind. When you leave the station they can just follow you home. Once they do that they tail your family. When you're LE you're never really safe.

It's no surprise that they have all that information and I'm sure they have all the guards information at other jails in Quebec. Will anymore guards be killed this time?

[kawikaratekid]

99% will be convicted! why? Because in Quebec the LE as to see a judge with the case to see if it will stick in court and if it does then they go on if not they wait for more evidence. It took 3 years and cost 50 million and they had over 200 detective working full time and they got 3 brand new Hells full patch that turn snitches to back them up.

Sorry I should have said that they all won't get a serious charge laid against them. No more fifteen of those guys will do more then five years.

[guest]

A PO box is just piece of mind. When you leave the station they can just follow you home. Once they do that they tail your family. When you're LE you're never really safe.

It's no surprise that they have all that information and I'm sure they have all the guards information at other jails in Quebec. Will anymore guards be killed this time?

if they just do their job and dont be dicks about it and make it personal they would likely have a lot less problems. i'm not saying all cops are like this but some are more 'human' and give into the urge to gloat and step over the line.

[guest1]

Was the shooting where the Toronto woman crippled HA or Mafia?

Both. HA were hired out to do the hit. Italians try not to do it anymore. The HA will work with the Italians.

[guest1]

Guys will get off scott free?? i doubt cuz the LE as so much evidence that they had to put it on a freaken Hard drive, thats crazy dont you think? ;)

one more thing, in this Bust LE arrested 11 retired Hells Angels that were retired over 10 years ago, so thats just to show you how deep they dug to hurt them Big time and again its bad news for the rest of the chapter in the world cuz this show to the rest of them that even if your retired it does not mean shit for LE.

History has shown that many get off scott free. All the evidence in the world will not stop corruption behind the bench or in LE. I am willing to bet money on this. I have no doubt that this is the most extensive bust in biker history in Canada but that doesn't add up to shit .........yet. I will believe it when I see it. These guys get the best lawyers out there and are great at PR work.

[DFA_DFA]

H.A. are getting run out of a lot of places.. either by police or real gangs.

[Mr.Freeze]

History has shown that many get off scott free. All the evidence in the world will not stop corruption behind the bench or in LE. I am willing to bet money on this. I have no doubt that this is the most extensive bust in biker history in Canada but that doesn't add up to shit .........yet. I will believe it when I see it. These guys get the best lawyers out there and are great at PR work.

just to add to the story, look at today LE is going underground lol
its the first time as see those kind of landmower lol scanning the ground.

http://tva.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/player_preroll.pl?titre=Informations%20CHLT&emission=chlt&video=http%3A//medias.tva.ca/stations/chlt/nouvelle/73556.wmv&reseau=TVA&promotion=http%3A//medias.tva.ca/stations/chlt/nouvelle/73556.wmv

[cdnsoldier]

Both. HA were hired out to do the hit. Italians try not to do it anymore. The HA will work with the Italians.



Not really. HA was working with the "Scarcella" crew which is not recognized as a real "Scililian" family. They were in the most part a rag tag group of oxy addicted **** heads who were shoot happy and could mess up a cup of coffee. If you see or met this 'crew" you wouldn't call them "orgaznied crime". More like wannabes with access to guns.

On the other hand, the "Italian" do do "it " and do it a lot. Take a look at the Calabrese in Toronto. Ove rthe last 10 years there have been roughly 20 hits. All clean. All professional. Just like the cops will tolerate.

If you see what's comin up teh HA ranks you'll see they won't last. No brains, too much piss and vinegar and too gun happy but from afar if you know what I mean. oC will be dominated by the Chinese and Russians in 10 years or so,.

[tex]

where do i sign up?! i need a new career....and a job that has "biker sluts" as a perk is A-OK with me.

[Ongeau]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..

I agree 100%

better the evil you know, then the one you don't....

[Ongeau]

where do i sign up?! i need a new career....and a job that has "biker sluts" as a perk is A-OK with me.

go be a bouncer in a strip club. :)

[kawikaratekid]

Both. HA were hired out to do the hit. Italians try not to do it anymore. The HA will work with the Italians.

Thanks

[kawikaratekid]

I agree 100%

better the evil you know, then the one you don't....

Worst gang in my opinion is the government. They're never held accountable for the illegal things they do.

[INked]

Worst gang in my opinion is the government. They're never held accountable for the illegal things they do.

Indeed!!!! :flagC

[Beachmuscle]

Worst gang in my opinion is the government. They're never held accountable for the illegal things they do.

Lol, good call and so true. :)

[Ongeau]

Worst gang in my opinion is the government. They're never held accountable for the illegal things they do.

I agree with that 50%
the other 50% is the royal family, biggest welfare cases in the world, and biggest gang. don't pay them their share and see what happens. **** you commonwealth.

[Bowlcut]

You forgot the Government's enforces, the RCMP.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026279.html

[BritishColumbian]

Worst gang in my opinion is the government. They're never held accountable for the illegal things they do.

One of the best Posts in this thread! agreed 100%
I thought the HA was just a motor cycle enthusiasts club that like to have a good time! I see them all the time here in BC out riding and havin fun in the sun! I have more respect for them than the cops. JMO

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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1525747

Here is how they go so many.

[spitfire]

Nice. Now they take taxpayers money to reward a criminal 2.9 million dollars for squealing on his criminal friends. That is the most insane thing I've ever seen. Are they for real in Quebec or what?

[Bowlcut]

Nice. Now they take taxpayers money to reward a criminal 2.9 million dollars for squealing on his criminal friends. That is the most insane thing I've ever seen. Are they for real in Quebec or what?

He better spend it quick. I doubt he makes it to 50.

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Its makes more financial sense to pay an informant then to pay LE to investigate further. The cost of LE work is very pricey. They probably saved millions in over time by paying an informant.

Recent 2 year operation in Alberta on bikers cost upwards of 4 million and that was only on 10-15 people.

What if the government was no longer involved in people's private affairs and prostitution and drug use was brought into the open market. Think of all the money that would save (more so for the USA).

[guest]

What if the government was no longer involved in people's private affairs and prostitution and drug use was brought into the open market. Think of all the money that would save (more so for the USA).

http://www.hellsangelsamsterdam.nl/Site/Intro_files/shapeimage_7.jpg

[rubarb]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..


Ya I have to agree with u here, they think they know how out Canadian system works. Some of the SH!T they pull off here in Canada just turns me. Try doing where u orig came from and u end up getting killed (executed) or loose an arm or leg.

[rubarb]

He better spend it quick. I doubt he makes it to 50.

I say they are already de@d... :beat

[guest]

They did this in Amsterdam. Legalized some light drugs and prostitution. Bikers took it all over.

They are now shutting it down.

haha. did you miss my post sir?

[Diesel_250]

I will say i believe that to be unfortunate....There always has to be good , and not so good, to maintain balance in humanity...I would rather see the HAs around than these lil off the boat pricks and indian gangs and mid east gangs etc...When one moves on, it is quickly replaced with another...be careful what you wish for......Id rather it be the HAs, than some other bunch of bastards trying to prove themselves...
HAs are one of the better ones if you were to choose an evil...IMO..
definitely way more unbecoming , ruthless gangs out there....
So today, i think they made a big mistake...IMO..


I agree 100%

the HA pretty much got shut down here in northwestern ontario and before that we didn't have crack or crystal meth now we have it and our town is run by a bunch of little piss pot gangs that wouldn't be pulling half the shit they pull if the HA wa still here. it comes down to the better of 2 evils

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HA were out in limited numbers yesterday at the bike expo in Laval.

[bountyhunter]

HA won't give up Quebec without a fight. It's worth big money. But they better recoup fast. As a born and raised Quebecer I gotta say they run a tight operation. They have people everywhere from government workers, to bouncers in all the best bars and strip clubs. But it's not enough these days. We must remember that most Canadians live a pretty sheltered life compared to most other countries. These young "50 cent wannabees" off the boat have seen there family members hacked and shot up in front of their eyes. They've played in the streets as children witnessing horrible crimes in places where even the strong don't always survive. So when they arrive in Canadian cities like Toronto or Montreal and end up in low income housing, it's a BIG improvement for them. What we would consider a hardcore gangster over here, is a big joke for them. Jamaicans, hatians, hispanics, africans, asians and middle easterners, they simply don't give a ****. life is cheap. They'll machete your ass so fast that your severed limbs will spin. And their cousins back home will link them with all the dope they need to finance their gangs. If the HA's leave QC open game, it won't take long for these groups to move in. No more local 81.

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

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