First Cycle, need advice/suggestions!

[aly786]

hey guys, so this is gonna be my first cycle of TEST-E

500mg/week for 10 weeks
HCG

so far for PCT all i have is Clomid on hand, trying to get nolva

my stats:

age: 25
weight: 230lbs
Gym: 5 days a week
Experience: 6+ years

Previous supps: M1T, H-drol

A couple friends said that is all i would need for my first cycle, can anyone add to it or is it fine?

[Iwant2Grow]

hey guys, so this is gonna be my first cycle of TEST-E

500mg/week for 10 weeks
HCG

so far for PCT all i have is Clomid on hand, trying to get nolva

my stats:

age: 25
weight: 230lbs
Gym: 5 days a week
Experience: 6+ years

Previous supps: M1T, H-drol

A couple friends said that is all i would need for my first cycle, can anyone add to it or is it fine?


Hey i am on very similar cycle (1st one)to yours 15wks 525mg test wk for 15 wks
from what i hear you want to run test e min 12 weeks cause it take 4+ weeks to kick in .
for pct i have novla and hcg

if you might want to look at Aromasin and adex as options too for combating estrogen sides as they will handle the bloating etc while on cycle better then nova at least in my experience

heres a good link to pct info

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4863&highlight=Serms

some info on adex
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6053

[aly786]

Hey i am on very similar cycle (1st one)to yours 15wks 525mg test e3d for 15 wks
from what i hear you want to run test e min 12 weeks cause it take 4+ weeks to kick in .
for pct i have novla and hcg

if you might want to look at armoisn(? correct spelling anyone?) and adex as options too for combating estrogen sides as they will handle the bloating etc while on cycle better then nova at least in my experience

heres a good link to pct info

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4863&highlight=Serms

some info on adex
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6053

thank you for the links, but if im unable to get ahold of nolva would clomid be enough by itself? especially if im only running test-E? yeah a few ppl told me 12 weeks is a good time line for test-E i will probably do that

[Iwant2Grow]

I personally have never used clomid

i have been told it is fine for pct and some ppl prefer it.

nolva seems to much more popular
check out this too
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6788

and if you search clomid on this forum you will get lots of info

[OntariOMuscle101]

Buddy of mine just ran Test Cyp like this for his first:

Test Enanthate Wk1 - Frontload 1000mg, Then Wk2-12 do 500mg/Week.

This way your blood is stable the whole way through, for max gains.

PCT: Novedex 40mg/ED Wk 1, 20mg/ED Wk 2 and 3.

[Delt King]

Buddy of mine just ran Test Cyp like this for his first:

Test Enanthate Wk1 - Frontload 1000mg, Then Wk2-12 do 500mg/Week.

This way your blood is stable the whole way through, for max gains.

PCT: Novedex 40mg/ED Wk 1, 20mg/ED Wk 2 and 3.

Agreed---Better to front load.

[kawikaratekid]

If you can get a hold of some Dbol for a kicker I would recommend it...Make sure you get your calories in bro and you're going to love this cycle!

[HeavyD]

yes, agreed with all posts...

for a first cycle i like to run only one compound, and then you know how you will react to the sides...

i would personally get some deca/EQ and run @400mg/wk along with your test and use dbol as kicker for fist 4-6wks.

clomid for pct will be fine for if your only going with the test.

i also think that if you stick with just the test then you should not need any adex/nolva during cycle either....but we are all different, there is nothing worse thinking you may be developing breast tissue, when you could have avioded it for $100... you cant really put a price on growing tits.

[aly786]

yes, agreed with all posts...

for a first cycle i like to run only one compound, and then you know how you will react to the sides...

i would personally get some deca/EQ and run @400mg/wk along with your test and use dbol as kicker for fist 4-6wks.

clomid for pct will be fine for if your only going with the test.

i also think that if you stick with just the test then you should not need any adex/nolva during cycle either....but we are all different, there is nothing worse thinking you may be developing breast tissue, when you could have avioded it for $100... you cant really put a price on growing tits.

Agreed! yeah im just going to run test solo for now see how i react, then as a second cycle ill be sure to kick it up a notch

[Big D]

Agreed---Better to front load.

why do you guys think its better to front load ??

[OntariOMuscle101]

why do you guys think its better to front load ??

if you read my post, it is better cuz it keeps your blood stable. being unstable you will not make maximum gains...

[aly786]

if you read my post, it is better cuz it keeps your blood stable. being unstable you will not make maximum gains...

what is front loading?

[rickyboy36]

why do you guys think its better to front load ??

To be honest with you,I've always heard that it doesnt make a difference.Logically on paper it makes sense but when applying it in real life it does nothing.

The cycle you have pointed out looks really good.If yo do everything right you should gain between 17-20lbs and then keep maybe 10-15 after PCT if you continue eating right and training hard!

[rickyboy36]

if you read my post, it is better cuz it keeps your blood stable. being unstable you will not make maximum gains...

I dont see how adding all that gear at first will keep them stable.Thats a big jump so to speak.Anyways i think that if you are getting sides its because you are predisposed to it anyways.I get zero sides no matter what i use and the amounts taken on any given cycle