First cycle. Feedback all welcome..

[ultrasafe]

So I have been researching for the past 6 months on what would be the best cycle for me. Been on different forms while being a sponge, absorbing all the info I can read and attain.

First off, I need to state that I am not a BB or in that line of competition. That said I must applaud you fellas for perseverance and determination. Great job on getting huge but by the same token getting it done safely.

I am an athlete who has played and enjoys playing his sports at a very competitive level. At 5’9 178lbs I am built for speed but at the same time give the big guys lots of trouble. Core strength is fundamentally key….lol. Would like more strength and power, while adding lean mucle patiently and safely.

Sooo the traditional first cycle usually proposed by you professors’ aka Vets is the standard Test only cycle. Hummm..
1) Great cycle but do not want to gain 12-15 pounds and than yo yo with sides if any. Also know the advantage of using one substance, is that you can maintain and watch for sides much easily. Very safe approach!
2) Need to get past the needle fear, so a long ester AAS would be nice for experience (gain experience before playing with the short ester eod AAS IM injections)
3) My diet is excellent but not bang on, so an AAS that is forgiving on the diet would be nice. Body fat I am bout 7-9% hence giving me the edge in speed.
4) Have a full head of hair and want to keep it that way.lol.My whole family has had a full head of hair. Thick and grows like a weed and I am the outlier in statistics, where many of you state all guys eventually go bald.

So below is my 1st cycle respectively. (FYI, European forms advocate a Primobolan only cycle as the standard beginner cycle.) Interesting how philosophies differ between Continents.

1) Week 4-14 400mgs Primobolan (200mgs X 2)
Week 1-4 40mgs Anavar (10mgs X 4)
Week 8-14 40mgs Anavar (10mgs X 4)
2) The reason why I have interruptions in this cycle is to try to use process of elimination to find out if any sides, the major one being losing hair with Primo occurs. First 3 weeks I will isolate anavar and since it has a short half-life, any sides should be evident. So, when I start taking Primo and anavar together, if any issues arise I can make a good presumption that Primo is the culprit.
3) Creatine Monohydrate, and (Tribulus) if needed for HPTA
4) Milk Thistle or Live 52 (for Liver protection)
5) Cranberry extract (for kidney protection)
6) EFA and Primrose Oil

7) PCT
8) 3-6 run through PCT
9) Week 16-18 40, 30, 20mgs Nolvadex ED (tapered)
Week 16-18 100, 75, 50mgs Clomid ED (tapered) if needed.
10) Tribulus and ZMA

Thanks for your guys feedback and comments

[Benny62]

Looks great but I would start with the Primo for at least two weeks and then add the Var (14-16 weeks primo and 12 weeks var). The only side you might see if any would be the occasional zit .....if you see any sides IMO.

Also Himilaya makes a product named Hemo Care for kidney protection, works well with Liv-52 and Quest Makes a pharma grade wild fish oil pill that is 1200mgs total with 600mgs of EPA and 600mgs of DHA. This is strongest pill I've seen to gaurd you cardio vascular system and Shoppers drug mart carries it.

I think you'll be happy with the cycle if its good stuff! I would expect you will put on wieght though bro, probably 8-14 lbs of lean muscle if its your first cycle. Diet and training dependant of course.

Good luck

[tex]

start the primo 1st....it is a long ester and will take time to build up in your system so i would run it at least 12 weeks.....add the var at week 6 and run all the way up to pct. enjoy...i am about to run primo for the 1st time in a week but at 600-800/wk maybe up to a gram if i can convince the wife.....

[ultrasafe]

Thanks Benny and Tex... Benny I knew you would like the cycle..hahahaha.. thanks for the info bro..

I am using SA Primo and Var and the option of 9* Var..

Benny I am still debating on getting some of those turkish beauts and take the chance with customes..

[Delt King]

Well I can see how you picked your name "ultrasafe" lol

you won't have any negative issues with Primo and var. Don't worry about your hair either, won't be an issue.

Good luck on this first one.

[Zeron]

You have put a great deal of time and thinking into your first, your gains will be nice with a low B/F that will be even lower at the end, you will enjoy the mental edge and it will step up your game at a higher level of competition... Hey Mikey I think he like's it (lol)
Enjoy!! All the best bro.

Z.....

[ultrasafe]

Thanks for the kind words Delt and Z. Hey Delt is that you in your pics.. Buddy you are shredded as ****.. lolol.. amazing.

If all goes well on this one...A preview of my 2nd cycle would look like this:

NPP 70-100ml eod
Prop 70-100ml eod
Proviron 25mg ed
(bromo or one of the anti progesti'ss)

But first baby steps with the injections..lol

thanks fellas

[Houstonbc]

I like the looks of number 2 better than number 1

[Benny62]

I like the looks of number 2 better than number 1


Yeah number 2 is good too! What if you dropped the proviron and added Masteron!

[ultrasafe]

Benny I have thought of that.. I just want to keep the injection volume down to reduce the scar tissue. But ya I have heard that is an amazing cycle..

[Benny62]

To reduce scar tissue for your bulking cycle just pour it on your pancakes and dip your bacon in it :)


Benny I have thought of that.. I just want to keep the injection volume down to reduce the scar tissue. But ya I have heard that is an amazing cycle..