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blimp
27-09-2007, 03:06 PM
I hate the fact that I have to leave a tip. I feel it should be included in the price and I shouldn't be responsible of taking care of the waiter's/waitress' tip.

Do you guys prefer if it would be included in the price or left apart like we all do now?

macka
27-09-2007, 04:02 PM
a tip is a gratuity, which means it is a gift. If the service sucks and the server is rude, leave a penny.

Mr Ontario
27-09-2007, 04:05 PM
a tip is a gratuity, which means it is a gift. If the service sucks and the server is rude, leave a penny.

I agree with macka......Then again I hate paying the goverment %15 and then and extra %15 for tip as well. Therefore I don't eat out often..unless it is at home :)

MuSuLPhReAk
27-09-2007, 04:11 PM
I hate leaving 30% more than the price of the actual meal. 15 for tip, 15 for tax. It should all be included in the price imo. Then when people see that they are paying $15 for a plate of spaghetti, they'll think twice about eating there again since the actual price of the plate may be as little as 75 cents.

blimp
27-09-2007, 04:17 PM
a tip is a gratuity, which means it is a gift. If the service sucks and the server is rude, leave a penny.

So if you just don't have enough money to tip and don't leave a tip, is that ok? Or what if I just don't feel like leaving a gift. I'm a scrooge. Why would I be doing anything wrong then if I'm not obliged to leave a gift?

Mr Ontario
27-09-2007, 04:32 PM
I hate leaving 30% more than the price of the actual meal. 15 for tip, 15 for tax. It should all be included in the price imo. Then when people see that they are paying $15 for a plate of spaghetti, they'll think twice about eating there again since the actual price of the plate may be as little as 75 cents.

Another good point! %30 is huge amount! People will think twice before eating out.

Or you can look at it this way...if the gov decides to raise the minimum wage to $10.00 for waitress ect....do you think I will keep tipping and feeling soory for them. I will no longer feel soory for the profession that they decided to take. When the majority of us decided to go to College/University for a better paying job.

mcgee
27-09-2007, 06:42 PM
i guess i just don't care, I tip by how hot she is lol

Durk
27-09-2007, 09:08 PM
30%? rofl I never leave more than 2 bucks, and I usually mess with the servers so they prolly spit in my food.

shithead
27-09-2007, 09:44 PM
I'll judge by if the service is good, how much I perceive the server needs it, and if the tip goes to the server or into a jar for all servers. I believe tips should be individual.

Good service......thirty percent.

turboturist
28-09-2007, 12:26 AM
After working in Jasper for a few years I am pretty picky about service. Just what macka said if it good they get a good tip, if it is shit they dont get shit, and anything in between.

Mr.Freeze
28-09-2007, 12:47 AM
I hate leaving 30% more than the price of the actual meal. 15 for tip, 15 for tax. It should all be included in the price imo. Then when people see that they are paying $15 for a plate of spaghetti, they'll think twice about eating there again since the actual price of the plate may be as little as 75 cents.

So when you eat out your lunch as about 55 % of tax! 25% that you pay on your pay check 15% at the cash and 15% for tip.The best part is that the waitress as to pay a nother 7% of tax on her tip so those Fvcker make a big 47% tax on that meal:mad:

rbehniwal
28-09-2007, 03:45 AM
Bad service = no tip. Simple as that.

fathead
28-09-2007, 01:38 PM
dont eat in restaurants if you dont want to tip. very simple.

a server should not have to pay out of their pocket for serving you if you are too cheap to tip.

if you dont like to tip, dont beleive in it, or cant afford it, that is all fine. Stay home.

If you get decent service you need to leave 15%. If you get better service, you can leave more if you want to. If you get terrible service that is the fault of the SERVER and not the kitchen or how busy the place is, then leave a crappy tip.

Im so sick of hearing excuses from all the cheap bastards out there.

btw- hello all.

macka
28-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Bad service = no tip. Simple as that.

I leave a penny for bad service, its a slap in the face. Ihave only ever had one server comment and I told her why. Nothing like watching her chat with her bf on the phone while my lunch was sitting under the light waiting for the delivery. If its the kitchens fault I still tip the server. I'm not a cheap bastard, I'm picky. I also never **** with the server, I've been there, and its not fun. I've also tipped 50% at a good resteraunt because the food and service were the best ever, it also didn't hurt that the waitress had a good attitude and a firm butt.

Bowlcut
28-09-2007, 06:55 PM
Well you guys could move to Alberta and then only pay 6% tax.

After working in a restaurant I won't tip well if service is brutal. If you are busy, that is one thing, but even then I managed to take care of 5 tables on the fly.
It's when you have a brutal (almost always female) server who is just clueless.

As to why males make better servers, there are a variety of reasons, but the most prominent being that mediocre guys get fired in a restaurant, but mediocre girls are still kept on.

shithead
28-09-2007, 07:35 PM
I leave a penny for bad service, its a slap in the face. Ihave only ever had one server comment and I told her why. Nothing like watching her chat with her bf on the phone while my lunch was sitting under the light waiting for the delivery. If its the kitchens fault I still tip the server. I'm not a cheap bastard, I'm picky. I also never **** with the server, I've been there, and its not fun. I've also tipped 50% at a good resteraunt because the food and service were the best ever, it also didn't hurt that the waitress had a good attitude and a firm butt.

Ya, tip always seems to rise due to the firmness of the butt or beauty of the face.

Mojo_fit
29-09-2007, 07:15 PM
Lol if the service is extremely good i'll leave a generous tip, but that is rare, so its normally around 3 dollars. I dont think they should be added in with the ticket, if you get a crappy waiter then your going to be paying them for nothing : p

macka
30-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Ya, tip always seems to rise due to the firmness of the butt or beauty of the face.

not always, I have a friend who lives for good service and tips accordingly. we went to Appleby's and our hottie was an awful server, so zip for a tip. We went to east side marios and our waitress was a little dumpling of a girl, but holy crap even though it was busy she was aware of the tables and when the customers head looked over for a server, she was on it in under a minute. 15 dollar tip on a 40 dollar lunch.

C & C
30-09-2007, 11:20 PM
I always tip even the crappy servers get tips caause like metioned above the kitchen and bar doesn't need to pay for the servers poor serice/mood. I always tip well in the bars cause then i know i will have drinks comming all night and get 2ice the service the low/non-tippers get

blimp
30-09-2007, 11:29 PM
dont eat in restaurants if you dont want to tip. very simple.

a server should not have to pay out of their pocket for serving you if you are too cheap to tip.

if you dont like to tip, dont beleive in it, or cant afford it, that is all fine. Stay home.

If you get decent service you need to leave 15%. If you get better service, you can leave more if you want to. If you get terrible service that is the fault of the SERVER and not the kitchen or how busy the place is, then leave a crappy tip.

Im so sick of hearing excuses from all the cheap bastards out there.

btw- hello all.


My real reason behind this thread is that I would prefer the restaurant itself to be responsible for the tip and not the client. That means put the 15% tip included in the price of the meal and not let the client determine the tip. If the client wants to give more, they are entitled to. But if the client wants to give nothing, that is perfectly fine because they paid for the tip in the meal. That means if the plate of pasta is 8 dollars, then the plate of pasta is 8 dollars. No extra money for tip since it was included. The europeans do it that way and for that, I think they are doing it right. They include tax in the price too. Was nice to have paid exactly what price it was on the menu wihout having to factor in tip, tax, for everyone.

mcgee
01-10-2007, 12:06 AM
hmmm interesting, i agree 100% with the tax being included in price. Makes sense.

C & C
01-10-2007, 04:55 PM
My real reason behind this thread is that I would prefer the restaurant itself to be responsible for the tip and not the client. That means put the 15% tip included in the price of the meal and not let the client determine the tip. If the client wants to give more, they are entitled to. But if the client wants to give nothing, that is perfectly fine because they paid for the tip in the meal. That means if the plate of pasta is 8 dollars, then the plate of pasta is 8 dollars. No extra money for tip since it was included. The europeans do it that way and for that, I think they are doing it right. They include tax in the price too. Was nice to have paid exactly what price it was on the menu wihout having to factor in tip, tax, for everyone.

Trouble with that is that although you have to pay tax on your tips you dont really need to tell the gov't the real amount of tips you get. So if it was recorded you would have to claim it no matter what. The way it is now you dont "have" to claim all your tips so you get a little tax free money.

Bowlcut
01-10-2007, 07:26 PM
I always tip even the crappy servers get tips caause like metioned above the kitchen and bar doesn't need to pay for the servers poor serice/mood. I always tip well in the bars cause then i know i will have drinks comming all night and get 2ice the service the low/non-tippers get


The bar and kitchen at most major restaurants receive their tips as a set portion of the servers ringout. It is like that at Milestones, Moxies, Keg, Earls, Joeys, etc.
So when I had shit effort from the kitchen I would get bad tips and they would irregardless of their performance get a set amount from me at the end of the night. I didn't mind tipping out the bar because often they deserved it, but the loser stoners in the kitchen who can't even make a pizza up right got their 2.5% of what I rung out no matter shitty tip I got because the dumbass decided that "pizza no bacon" really meant "pizza with extra bacon"

Tipping at bars like you said is a good idea.

sorry I got a flash back of my industry days.

BDH
02-10-2007, 12:59 AM
Having worked in bars most of my adult life, I know how important tips are. I usually tip 15% if they suck to 30% if they TCB...

No matter how hard I try, I cant NOT tip... pisses me off...

Noisy Cricket
03-10-2007, 08:55 AM
A server's wage is $6 an hour, which in some cases, is actually covered by the tip-out that server pays back to the house at the end of their shift, meaning that at times they basically pay to work in a restaurant/bar. For whatever reason, we have a system for food and beverage service that relies on the tip to pay the waitress/waiter/bartender their wage. Having lived in countries where they get paid better, but don't make any tips, it does make a huge difference in the quality and attentiveness of the service you get (it's better here than in Oz, believe me), but by not tipping you are basically spitting in the face of the server, and sometimes, taking money directly out of their pocket.

So, if you want to be a true asshole, then don't tip.

leeroy
03-10-2007, 09:04 AM
I think the point is that it should be the restaurants responsibility to pay the waiter/waitress and NOT the clients. Charge it in the meal. It's logical no? Then no more arguments.

pinhead
04-03-2009, 03:26 PM
I don't get it. You guys leave 15% tip for the waiter/waitress? THAT'S MORE THAN THE GOV'T TAKES FROM YOU FOR THE MEAL!!

Tipping is a ****ing joke. The restaurant owner should be responsible for paying their employees. If they are bad waiters/waitresses, fire em and hire new ones. It isn't hard to bring a dish and pick it up when finished.

Ritch
04-03-2009, 08:43 PM
I`ve had girlfriends who were either barmaids or waitresses and know they go through alot crap dealing with people. I`m always nice with them and even though sometimes they don`t deserve a good tip, I still do. They may have been having a bad day not getting good tips when they deserve them and that`s why their spirits are down when you see them. I hope my good tip can turn their shift around.

waderow
04-03-2009, 08:47 PM
okay... i usually tip 20-30%. I tip well cause those poor chicks put up with a lot of ****ing shit for minimum wage. if they are hot they get more %, if they flirt...more %. if they are ****ing awesome servers and personality %%%

if they suck and are ****s.... I tip nothing. I have tipped nothing about 3 times in the last 5 years

proximo
04-03-2009, 10:30 PM
This thread brings to mind the old RESEVOIR DOGS scene in the beginning.

I mean why do we feel the need to tip some people and not others in the service industry?

And this tipping strictly because someone is hot....**** that. Unless you are juggling my nuts in your mouth under the table, or giving some decent service then I don't think someone deserves a bit extra just based on looks. Besides, she is probably laughing her ass off because she hosed a table full of dudes some extra tips just for winking a few times.

z83
04-03-2009, 10:39 PM
dont eat in restaurants if you dont want to tip. very simple.

a server should not have to pay out of their pocket for serving you if you are too cheap to tip.

if you dont like to tip, dont beleive in it, or cant afford it, that is all fine. Stay home.

If you get decent service you need to leave 15%. If you get better service, you can leave more if you want to. If you get terrible service that is the fault of the SERVER and not the kitchen or how busy the place is, then leave a crappy tip.

Im so sick of hearing excuses from all the cheap bastards out there.

btw- hello all.


X2 !

Ritch
04-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Besides, she is probably laughing her ass off because she hosed a table full of dudes some extra tips just for winking a few times.

Same thing with strippers!

bigpapapump2016
04-03-2009, 11:11 PM
I agree with what buddy said earlier, if you cannot afford to tip or you are a cheap ****, then do not go out to eat. They make below minimum wage and rely on our tips to get them by. I agree if service is shitty then tip less amount, but always leave a tip. Remember they work ****ing hard and if you get bad service maybe they just had a long hard day. The degree to which i tip depends on the service i agree, but the point is non tippers are pricks.

proximo
04-03-2009, 11:35 PM
Fair enough.

So why don't we tip the guy who cleans up after everyone at the gym. I am talking about the poor dude who makes minimum wage, cleaning up after the lazy pricks who don't put their weights away. I mean this guy wipes off the benches, picks up after the slugs.....all so we can have a decent environment to workout in.

Ritch
04-03-2009, 11:40 PM
Why don`t I tip the person at the video store, when I buy sneakers, clothes... I don`t know and let`s hope we never have to.

proximo
04-03-2009, 11:46 PM
Why don`t I tip the person at the video store, when I buy sneakers, clothes... I don`t know and let`s hope we never have to.
Exactly. All I'm saying is there are alot of tough jobs out there that pay only minimum wage, yet servers oftentimes feel they are entitled to receive a 15 to 20 percent tip. I say bullshit. Unless the service deserves the extra pay, I don't think anyone should feel obligated to tip any set amount.

bigpapapump2016
05-03-2009, 10:20 AM
servers make BELOW minimum wage

waderow
05-03-2009, 10:42 AM
usually someone cleaning the caked on piss shit and cum from a public toilet can't handle a serving job, thus the minimum wage. Servers are higher up the ranks then the regular gas pumping minimum wagers. that is why we tip them

Ritch
05-03-2009, 11:18 AM
^^^ That`s true, more personality, effort and problems to deal with.

gsxr750
05-03-2009, 11:23 AM
If I tip I never leave cash. I used to get screwed by greedy servers when I was a dishwasher out of the tip pool.. they'd never claim cash tips and i'd never see a dime of it.

Put it through the machine and they have to claim it, and share it.

natenator
05-03-2009, 11:28 AM
all I know is I could never be a server. Customer service is not a strong suit of mine at all.

If someone left me a poor tip I would hunt the ****ers down and make the chef's use them as mystery meat in the soup du jour!

nisser
05-03-2009, 12:45 PM
I always tip some because they have pay the kitchen staff out of tips. If you don't tip, it comes out of their pocket most of the time.

Even if the service was absolutely awful, they shouldn't LOSE money by working. That's just wrong.

Redz
05-03-2009, 02:35 PM
I usually tip well but I have no problem leaving a penny for bad service.

kingofthegeeks
05-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Nothing pisses me off more than a bill with an included tip, in fact i purposely do not go to certain places that have such a policy, i am very generous when i tip, most often 20% but it needs to be my choice!

liquidfire
05-03-2009, 07:49 PM
usually someone cleaning the caked on piss shit and cum from a public toilet can't handle a serving job, thus the minimum wage. Servers are higher up the ranks then the regular gas pumping minimum wagers. that is why we tip them

I think the point some are making is that if they are higher up than the gas pumpers or toilet scrubbers then they should be paid as such by their employers.

I often feel I am worth more than I am paid but I don't ask all my 'customers' at work for tips.

Kiem
05-03-2009, 09:19 PM
I always leave a tip, but don't believe in tips being included with the price.

liquidfire
05-03-2009, 11:21 PM
I always leave a tip, but don't believe in tips being included with the price.

I don't think a gratuity should be part of the price either. However, I think that if these people working mininum wage feel they should earn more than that, they should get a job that pays more than that.

It's a minimum wage job because its unskilled and mostly part time just like all other minimum wage jobs. If a waitress thinks she works hard she should come do me job for a day and see how hard I have to work to earn what I earn.

canadianmuscle0803
05-03-2009, 11:34 PM
I used to be a waiter for many years and i think the tip should be separate from the bill, but on the other hand some people are very cheap no matter how good of service they got, so 15% should be mandatory or don't go out.

OntariOMuscle101
07-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Took my girlfriend out to dinner for her bday at red lobster and our meal costed about $91 and i left a $15 tip, even a lil more than 15% and he still looked at mel like i was a cheap SOB. Money Hungry Teens!!

Born2Juice4Ever
10-03-2009, 10:42 AM
I know the hospitality industry too well not to post on this thread.---plus pinhead ordered me to get my post count up :D

I have been around the restaurant industry for 3 years now, from running kitchen, to management, to serving to owning a restaurant myself.

Servers get paid BELOW the minimum wage, which in Ontario is official at $10.00 now. Servers and bar tenders get paid 7.00 some places pay as high as 7.65 now a days.
The classic basic rule when tipping is that 15% of what the meal cost is the right amount.
Is there a rule on this? No, the gov has not yet allowed this to be incorporated.
Do the servers across the country deserve the 15% YES!!! I am all in for those servers and bar staff that bust their asses in order so that YOU the consumer get a meal.
So that YOU the consumer get a fresh lemon with your drink, clean cutlery, clean napkings.....nobody in the right state of mind would work for 7 bucks an hour, it is ridiculous!!!

Depending on where you eat, if you prefer to endulge in Boston Pizza, Colonade, where you will pay less than 20 bucks for a meal, use the stablishment for 45 minutes, get serviced water, and whatever you need, 15% on that bill is nothing IMO.
You you want to endulge into an expensive meal, with French quisine and a unique touch with freshly made red wine/white wine mixes, then visit me...but you won't be paying less than 60.00 per meal, and my staff does get thier and usually more than 15%.
Places like Milestones, Moxie's Classic Grill, Lago Bar and Grill (all well known to me from the B.O.H to the F.O.H.) are notorious for top nothc service.
Now if you happen to get a space cadet who serves you, and gives you horrible service...then it really is up to you to tip well or not....sorry to hear about your experience, not all servers wear yellow helmets and mouth pieces.

Restaurants are not necessities, they are a commodity--that if you can afford, then spoil yourself.. I can't wait until the day when the gov implements the 15% mandatory.
I guess becuase of the fact that i know the industry quite well, those servers, and bar staff really have a piece of my heart today and always. I have been down those roads in the past, mainly because i wanted to know how things really work--to gain better understandings of the dynamics and so one.---yes I even stripped in my mid 20s for 12 months :D good money there too


If you hit a restaurant with your girl and order to have flowers delivered to you during the meal, pay out 120.00 check 15|% is 18.00 ONLY--you've spent a good ONE hour, you've made the server(s) run back and forth at least 5 times to your table...he/she made your experience a good one. Why is it so hard to dsipose of 18.00 or more.


15% all the way or more:)


B2J

Gettin'r'round
10-03-2009, 11:39 AM
I've done my fair share of eating out in the past. Went to some nice places too (North 44, Centro, etc) but got sick of those compared to the $$'s put out. Used to eat at a great local place but since we started vacationing 3+weeks out of the year, we are just glad to get home, hit Whole Foods, and eat clean healthy organic food again. Also the local joint has cut some quality as well. My wife had a chewy filet migon when it used to be flawless.

I would HATE to be in the restaurant biz, competitive, regulated, spoilage, whiny customers, theft, and when the economy goes to shit, you are the first to take it up the ***. I like my biz, no spoilage EVER, little competition, no regulation, no whiny customers, price insensitive, spread out customer base, no theft, a few deadbeat payers. But this isn't a growing industry.

natenator
10-03-2009, 11:43 AM
I've done my fair share of eating out in the past. Went to some nice places too (North 44, Centro, etc) but got sick of those compared to the $$'s put out. Used to eat at a great local place but since we started vacationing 3+weeks out of the year, we are just glad to get home, hit Whole Foods, and eat clean healthy organic food again. Also the local joint has cut some quality as well. My wife had a chewy filet migon when it used to be flawless.

I would HATE to be in the restaurant biz, competitive, regulated, spoilage, whiny customers, theft, and when the economy goes to shit, you are the first to take it up the ***. I like my biz, no spoilage EVER, little competition, no regulation, no whiny customers, price insensitive, spread out customer base, no theft, a few deadbeat payers. But this isn't a growing industry.
Mark McEwan is the biggest ass I've ever met. Worked for him a bit when in school and when I got into the working world, hosted a party at N 44. He was as big of a dick when I worked for him as he was when I was the customer lol

Born2Juice4Ever
10-03-2009, 11:44 AM
I've done my fair share of eating out in the past. Went to some nice places too (North 44, Centro, etc) but got sick of those compared to the $$'s put out. Used to eat at a great local place but since we started vacationing 3+weeks out of the year, we are just glad to get home, hit Whole Foods, and eat clean healthy organic food again. Also the local joint has cut some quality as well. My wife had a chewy filet migon when it used to be flawless.

I would HATE to be in the restaurant biz, competitive, regulated, spoilage, whiny customers, theft, and when the economy goes to shit, you are the first to take it up the ***. I like my biz, no spoilage EVER, little competition, no regulation, no whiny customers, price insensitive, spread out customer base, no theft, a few deadbeat payers. But this isn't a growing industry.

Good stuff indeed there bro!!! Very true in many levels.


B2J

P.S. Remind me to order this filet migon you speaketh off :laugh j/k--:ne

Gettin'r'round
10-03-2009, 12:12 PM
Mark McEwan is the biggest ass I've ever met. Worked for him a bit when in school and when I got into the working world, hosted a party at N 44. He was as big of a dick when I worked for him as he was when I was the customer lol

I don't doubt it. But then the dude is a great success and you don't get that way by being nice. To sustain the level of quality he demands is going to piss most people off but he gets the job done the way he wants it.

He is also opening a supermarket within the next month or two. Personally I like Whole Foods and Cumbrae's (for meat). We eat some really quality grub and you just don't get that eating out, and if you could it would be major $$$ and probably more than a weekly grocery bill. f-that.

Ritch
10-03-2009, 03:10 PM
I know the hospitality industry too well not to post on this thread.---plus pinhead ordered me to get my post count up :D

I have been around the restaurant industry for 3 years now, from running kitchen, to management, to serving to owning a restaurant myself.

Servers get paid BELOW the minimum wage, which in Ontario is official at $10.00 now. Servers and bar tenders get paid 7.00 some places pay as high as 7.65 now a days.
The classic basic rule when tipping is that 15% of what the meal cost is the right amount.
Is there a rule on this? No, the gov has not yet allowed this to be incorporated.
Do the servers across the country deserve the 15% YES!!! I am all in for those servers and bar staff that bust their asses in order so that YOU the consumer get a meal.
So that YOU the consumer get a fresh lemon with your drink, clean cutlery, clean napkings.....nobody in the right state of mind would work for 7 bucks an hour, it is ridiculous!!!

Depending on where you eat, if you prefer to endulge in Boston Pizza, Colonade, where you will pay less than 20 bucks for a meal, use the stablishment for 45 minutes, get serviced water, and whatever you need, 15% on that bill is nothing IMO.
You you want to endulge into an expensive meal, with French quisine and a unique touch with freshly made red wine/white wine mixes, then visit me...but you won't be paying less than 60.00 per meal, and my staff does get thier and usually more than 15%.
Places like Milestones, Moxie's Classic Grill, Lago Bar and Grill (all well known to me from the B.O.H to the F.O.H.) are notorious for top nothc service.
Now if you happen to get a space cadet who serves you, and gives you horrible service...then it really is up to you to tip well or not....sorry to hear about your experience, not all servers wear yellow helmets and mouth pieces.

Restaurants are not necessities, they are a commodity--that if you can afford, then spoil yourself.. I can't wait until the day when the gov implements the 15% mandatory.
I guess becuase of the fact that i know the industry quite well, those servers, and bar staff really have a piece of my heart today and always. I have been down those roads in the past, mainly because i wanted to know how things really work--to gain better understandings of the dynamics and so one.---yes I even stripped in my mid 20s for 12 months :D good money there too


If you hit a restaurant with your girl and order to have flowers delivered to you during the meal, pay out 120.00 check 15|% is 18.00 ONLY--you've spent a good ONE hour, you've made the server(s) run back and forth at least 5 times to your table...he/she made your experience a good one. Why is it so hard to dsipose of 18.00 or more.


15% all the way or more:)


B2J

That`s a really good post. Plus why tip 18$ when it`s no much nicer to receive a 20$ bill, you look cheap leaving that kind of change.

warlock
10-03-2009, 03:38 PM
A server should ALWAYS work for his tips and the tip should be proportional to the quality of the work.

A client should learn to walk in sit read the ****ing menu make his ****ing mind order without asking too many questions, ask everything at once and be polite to the worker.

If the service is good = 15%
If the service is great = 20%
If the service sucks = 0%

If you are cheap learn how to cook and stay at home.

metalchick
11-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Servers get paid less then minimum wage, they make most of their money from tips. To go to a restaurant and not tip is rude, and a waste of the servers time. They are providing you with a service, therefore you tip them, common courtesy. If the service and food is completely terrible, I still tip, but talk to a manager about how my experience was. I suppose I'm biased because I am a server/bartender, and have become bitter to when people are cheap for no reason.

It would make sense if tip is included in the price, I know in some places it is.

pinhead
11-03-2009, 05:41 PM
It would make sense if tip is included in the price, I know in some places it is.

This is what I really believe. It should not be my responsibility to calculate anything. If a plate is $25, I pay that price. Tip is included in the price. That means the employer is responsible for paying you, not me. I think all waiters and waitresses deserve their $$. Europe has got this down pretty good. And let me tell you, service I got there was as good if not better than I get here. So there, that's my point.

Ritch
14-03-2009, 12:49 AM
What if you get take out? Should you tip then? I mean nobody served you, brought you untensils or water.

DFA_DFA
14-03-2009, 04:34 AM
No it shouldn't be in the price.. like someone said a gift.

As someone who works in a bar .. tips is how you make your money. Turns a minimum wage job into a 25-40 dollar an hour job...and it depends if service is good then ill tip good if shes a bitch then she can forget about it.

Ritch
14-03-2009, 01:08 PM
I actually always tip well for meals because they do work hard for the money. But one thing I find is bullshit but do it anyway is tipping if you buy a beer. Now the bar tenders expect 1$ just to turn around and open you a bottle of beer and put it in front of you. Dosen`t really affect me because I never buy beer in bars but that as a principle to me is bullshit. Thoughts?

juced_porkchop
14-03-2009, 03:57 PM
I actually always tip well for meals because they do work hard for the money. But one thing I find is bullshit but do it anyway is tipping if you buy a beer. Now the bar tenders expect 1$ just to turn around and open you a bottle of beer and put it in front of you. Dosen`t really affect me because I never buy beer in bars but that as a principle to me is bullshit. Thoughts?

if you want to be served well and at last call when there is a big rush you should lol . or dont be serpized if she/he go's to the ones that are tipping.
or tells you to "**** off you cheap bastard" (so to speak)

i think atleast 25cents should be left. thow 50-1$ is the aveg per drink or serve.

i work in bar/ent setting and how/why do you think bartenders make rent or even bother to work there getting payed only min wage per hr. also the guys stocking the fridges and cleaning the tables usaly get a % of the bartenders tip.


so i think you should tip.:beer

pinhead
14-03-2009, 04:10 PM
i work in bar/ent setting and how/why do you think bartenders make rent or even bother to work there getting payed only min wage per hr. also the guys stocking the fridges and cleaning the tables usaly get a % of the bartenders tip.


so i think you should tip.:beer

The problem in my eyes isn't with people tipping or not tipping you. The problem is that you get paid minimum wage for the job. If you were getting $20 an hour with no tip, then you are considered to have a decent pay. But problem is to serve a drink, most bartenders would like to make $200-$300 a night instead of $100-$150 if you got $20/hour.

micronian
15-03-2009, 12:27 PM
i recently went to a chinese buffet and was told "the tip is not included in the price" well shit. i should've just said "Oh yea, i know" and walked out, what buffet needs a tip?? u ****ing walk up to the msg/food poisoning its not like they are delivering it to you like a real restaraunt!!! arg.

Moxxies is the best little lounge restaraunt ive been to, the girls there need to be like size 2 waist, blonde hair blue eyes and a cute little ass, so i generally tip well when i eat that 14oz AAA Alberta steak.

< M >

Ritch
16-03-2009, 10:18 AM
^^^ Never thought about tiping at a buffet. They should get less.

Born2Juice4Ever
16-03-2009, 10:21 AM
i recently went to a chinese buffet and was told "the tip is not included in the price" well shit. i should've just said "Oh yea, i know" and walked out, what buffet needs a tip?? u ****ing walk up to the msg/food poisoning its not like they are delivering it to you like a real restaraunt!!! arg.

Moxxies is the best little lounge restaraunt ive been to, the girls there need to be like size 2 waist, blonde hair blue eyes and a cute little ass, so i generally tip well when i eat that 14oz AAA Alberta steak.

< M >


I know Moxie's Classic Grill very well...TOO well ;) but I would never call the successful corporate icon of the industry :"little lounge" lol
And yes it is an unwritten rule that all Moxie's employees are models or bikiny show girls :) The guys are very cool too;)



B2J

micronian
16-03-2009, 10:56 AM
I know Moxie's Classic Grill very well...TOO well ;) but I would never call the successful corporate icon of the industry :"little lounge" lol
And yes it is an unwritten rule that all Moxie's employees are models or bikiny show girls :) The guys are very cool too;)



B2J


aint that the truth!