Tren Dose...?

[SmallieBigs]

Hey all.... So, still planning my next cycle... was thinking of maybe doing profina instead of just test prop....

What would be a good dose of tren a for a 1st time using?

Been dying to try it... and ya, i'd make sure to have a bottle of letro beside the nolva just in case....

[canadianmuscle0803]

100mg EOD

would equal to about 350mg/week.. good dose.. I would also have some dostinex on hand, since its your first time you never know if your prone to tren gyno.

[SmallieBigs]

so would a profina of a 100(test prop)/100(tren a) eod be a good start then?

as for dostinex, i thought letro could be use for the same sides.... no?

[rickyboy36]

Id say 75mgs EOD..start with that

[canadianmuscle0803]

so would a profina of a 100(test prop)/100(tren a) eod be a good start then?

as for dostinex, i thought letro could be use for the same sides.... no?

letro will help with estrogen related gyno but it will not help with prolactin build up thats caused by tren/deca.. these are totally different... i think the profina is ok EOD but the prop dose needs to be a big higher IMO.. a good start with prop is 150mg EOD with 100mg tren EOD..

[SmallieBigs]

ok thanks from both....

was there not something other than dostinex and caber though... maybe not... i'm a little slow today... not like Corky... never full retard...

[canadianmuscle0803]

ok thanks from both....

was there not something other than dostinex and caber though... maybe not... i'm a little slow today... not like Corky... never full retard...

dostinex/caber are the same just one of the names is the actual chemical name. here is more info..

http://www.freakzonline.com/articles/dostinex.html

[SmallieBigs]

lol... **** i'm dumb sometimes... are tren sides about the same as decca for those who experience them? milder/harsher.... ?

[canadianmuscle0803]

lol... **** i'm dumb sometimes... are tren sides about the same as decca for those who experience them? milder/harsher.... ?

way harsher then deca bro..

main ones

lots of sweating especially at night
insomnia (get some nytol and gravol to help you sleep)
bad stamina (have fun if you train with high volume)

[St]

If the Pro-fina is (70mg tren a & Prop 100mg per ml) then 1cc ed or eod if fine.I would go with eod first to see how you do.

[SmallieBigs]

thanks... and yes i know of the other sides. I just meant progesterone-wise...

I just read again ('cause i thought i remembered reading it) that letro can help with progesterone related sides... found it in the steroid profile area of this site.... idk... obviously people who've used would know... was just hoping it worked, since i'm not sure i can get caber.... :(

[SmallieBigs]

oh... and if i use the profina, i'll be using the 70tren/100prop i guess, to keep the test higher

[phatkid77]

i just started 50mg EOD... and go from there...can always go up...get more from less hopefully....

they say, 200mg tren = 800mg of test?? strong drug

phats

[SmallieBigs]

i just started 50mg EOD... and go from there...can always go up...get more from less hopefully....

they say, 200mg tren = 800mg of test?? strong drug

phats

cool... was thinkin' somethin' like 150 eod test/ 105 eod tren a maybe....
if not maybe start lower like 100 eod test/ 70 eod tren a.....

[force]

You can always run prami if you cant get caber, its easy to find. Im going to give a go as soon as I start my tren in June.

F.

[SmallieBigs]

prami?? not sure i've heard of that, nor know what it is.... similar product i take it?

[ezturbo]

Maybe for a first time using, for a week or two pin 1cc EOD (300mg prop, 210mg tren) then if sides are good and can handle it, crank to 1.4cc EOD (420mg prop, 300mg tren). If the sides get ugly, go back to pinning 1cc profina and .4 cc prop. Can't go wrong bro, feel the tren out, you'll notice it's effects dramatically.

[IronMan]

You forgot to mention the acne on tren, short temper, and an overall feeling of shittyness lol. But the results are pretty damn good if done properly with correct dieting and training. I just started test prop and tren ace this week and already have the night sweats and crap. Thank god its only a 4 weeker.

[wan2lrn]

You forgot to mention the acne on tren, short temper, and an overall feeling of shittyness lol. But the results are pretty damn good if done properly with correct dieting and training. I just started test prop and tren ace this week and already have the night sweats and crap. Thank god its only a 4 weeker.

What doses are you using?

[Solo59]

You forgot to mention the acne on tren, short temper, and an overall feeling of shittyness lol. But the results are pretty damn good if done properly with correct dieting and training. I just started test prop and tren ace this week and already have the night sweats and crap. Thank god its only a 4 weeker.

Tren can be oppressive, but in manageable doses it sometimes makes me feel invincible, like I could do anything, and I have to admit I kind of like that inflation (nonsensical as it is). The famed aggression seems to appear when reality raises its ugly head to alert me that I'm not invincible at all.:mad:

Solo

[INked]

i just started 50mg EOD... and go from there...can always go up...get more from less hopefully....

they say, 200mg tren = 800mg of test?? strong drug

phats

Who is "They?" :popc

[IronMan]

What doses are you using?

100mgs EOD. Not my first time running it. I just get the night sweats pretty bad, but the aggression and other sides are next to non. Acne for me, meh a little bit but not much. I know a guy who can't touch tren cause he gets allllllllllllllll the sides really badly. Some people are effected by it differently.

[phatkid77]

"They".....are the people that know, authorities on the subject..

Phats

[Skyblob]

my ***** rep has some profina which is a 100/100 blend, but is there also a 100prop/70tren blend of profina?

[SmallieBigs]

thanks for all the help guys... ya, maybe i'll try 1cc eod for the first week or 2, to check out the sides 1st.... sounds like a good course of action, just didn't know if you'd really notice much off 210 mgs/week... but ya, better to start off safely than end up sorry....

I've heard you can make very nice strength and lbm gains with it... can't wait

[ezturbo]

thanks for all the help guys... ya, maybe i'll try 1cc eod for the first week or 2, to check out the sides 1st.... sounds like a good course of action, just didn't know if you'd really notice much off 210 mgs/week... but ya, better to start off safely than end up sorry....

I've heard you can make very nice strength and lbm gains with it... can't wait

Whoa you will notice 210mg. It's ****ing strong bro. It's like liquor, you gotta feel out your limit. Some can drink a case, some get drunk and red cheeked after one beer. Better to start off with a nice 6 pack, then a bottle of whisky, you can always go back to the store.


Is anyone getting thirsty?

[SmallieBigs]

Nice analogy... Always enjoy your posts EZ, mostly because i get to see that avatar.

I hear ya bro... will start at 210, see how it goes, thanks

[phatkid77]

Which was my suggestion!!! Lol

Phats

[SmallieBigs]

yes phats it was... I also said i would start off at 210 after your post... Just wanna try and reply, thank, and acknowledge any/everyone good enough to try and help me out...

[ezturbo]

Nice analogy... Always enjoy your posts EZ, mostly because i get to see that avatar.

I hear ya bro... will start at 210, see how it goes, thanks

Np man. When I ran tren the first time, 210mgs I had no problem sleeping, no sweating, insane strength, blah blah. When I went to 300mg, ALL of the sides, ALL of them came down.

Ya I loved that girl, wanna meet her?

[SmallieBigs]

Np man. When I ran tren the first time, 210mgs I had no problem sleeping, no sweating, insane strength, blah blah. When I went to 300mg, ALL of the sides, ALL of them came down.

Ya I loved that girl, wanna meet her?

A: wow... good to know... still decent size gains? (I know it's more how you eat, and it is a leaner bulk though)... would figure so, if insane strength... also heard it's great at body recomposition with everything else..... hopefully 210mgs does the same (no sides/great results)... did you still just use 300 mgs test prop?

B: Funny... I think I may love her already too, I ****ing love brunettes!! And yes, I would like to meet her... very much so :D

[ezturbo]

It was sorta unexpected with tren. I put on immense size, totally reformed body, shed loads of fat, went up 30lbs on my dbpress (135's for 8), just in 4 weeks. But it makes you look like a complete juice monkey. You get veiny as ****, sweaty/shiny all the time. And your muscles look fake. With palumbos bulking diet, I lost weight, but put some insane size on my chest/shoulders. I was all gung-ho to jack my arms up, I think I ended up overtraining them. Hah you'll have a blast man. I've got a deep deep love/obsession with tren.

[SmallieBigs]

Jesus! Now I'm supeer pumped to start... should have it in about a week to start... hopefully i'm feelin' better by then... not holdin' alot of food in right now and don't know why... weird... Thanks though

wait... you only used it for 4 weeks?? why so short?

[SmallieBigs]

and when do i meet this girl? lol

[ezturbo]

Jesus! Now I'm supeer pumped to start... should have it in about a week to start... hopefully i'm feelin' better by then... not holdin' alot of food in right now and don't know why... weird... Thanks though

wait... you only used it for 4 weeks?? why so short?

I made the mistake of not having caber on hand the first time. I started getting bad tren gyno, and my back looked like hamburger meat, and I was abusive to everyone, so my friend took it away from me or awhile :D. Those 4 weeks were equal to 16 weeks of test. ANYDAY.

[SmallieBigs]

lol.... had it taken away eh? good you have friends that care at least...

Your back looked like hamburger meat?? lol... don't understand what that means, but funny nonetheless.... as for caber, under the steroid profiles section here it says letro could be used too.... no????

[ezturbo]

lol.... had it taken away eh? good you have friends that care at least...

Your back looked like hamburger meat?? lol... don't understand what that means, but funny nonetheless.... as for caber, under the steroid profiles section here it says letro could be used too.... no????

Hah I was a pimple farm. My back was a messsss. Letro works of estro/progesterone problems, but prolactin can only be supressed by dostinex. With high levels of prolactin, your body starts producing glandular tissue in your chest to produce breastmilk. There are two types of gyno from tren, one can be caused by progesterone or estrogen because tren binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor, leaving large amounts of test to aromatise. Aswell, prolactin will start morphing your body into a body of a breast feeding mommy. Now if you wanna have a solid defense, have letro and caber on hand. NOT NOLVA. It can antagonise prolactin gyno. A decent way to tell, prolactin gyno will give you erect puffy nipples, and estro gyno will cause lumps. Letro is a hardcore method to prevent, terrible on your hdl and your sex drive. Only Use as a last resort. If your worried and wanna have zero problems, run 500mcg of caber EOD, and you don't have to worry bout prolactin problems at all. 1000-2000mcg completely shuts down pituatary production of prolactin, but like letro, if you don't taper off it, you can get a kickback effect of lots of prolactin. Don't worry though, totally managable. If you got some more questions bro, I've spent alot of time researching and don't mind keeping a brosiv safe.

[OrangePeel]

You can use Letro for tren induced gyno(progesterone). I posted up a good read on the use of Letro for this in another thread called "Winny and tren gyno" Hope this helps.

[ezturbo]

You can use Letro for tren induced gyno(progesterone). I posted up a good read on the use of Letro for this in another thread called "Winny and tren gyno" Hope this helps.

Yeah.. That solves the progesterone problem, but the real culprite is prolactin. You need caber for that.

[force]

prami?? not sure i've heard of that, nor know what it is.... similar product i take it?

Pramipexole...Yeah similiar to caber, easily available for research though and stable in liquid unlike caber.

http://www.rxlist.com/mirapex-drug.htm

there a quick read for ya.

[SmallieBigs]

EZ- thanks much for the info mang... just not sure if my guy can get me dostinex... better make sure before i get on the tren i guess... grrrrr!!! Great info though thanks... still hopin' like hell to get on the tren, sure i will! btw, ur 1st 4-week time, how much were you running?

Force - Thanks... great read mang

[ezturbo]

I got up to 400mg by the end. Wonderful stuff. Started at 300. Ive also started at 210, and cranked to 300. So far 300 is the magic number for sides, but 400 has bigger gains, same sides. So I dunno, third time around Ill find out haha.

[SmallieBigs]

hahaha.. nice... well, once i find some caber... i guess i'll follow through with this starting at 210, and movin' to 300 if all seems well... still pumped... little concerned about "tren gyno".... but still pumped! :)