Canadian labs busted?

[7 Scape O'Tech]

Apparently some newspapers reported some cdn labs were shut down on monday...just wondering if admin or anyone else has insight on this? Perhaps some can get ahold of reps, forward info to admin, just so we could know which lab(s) went down?

[ergie]

I'd like to know as well

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I heard nothing on the canadian side.

[Nightcrawler]

Ya man, prob nada, or you'd hear for sure

[pseclint]

havent heard a thing about busts

[R.F.S.]

There was busts in the U.S. with the help of the RCMP but no labs here as far as i know.

[shithead]

"Authorities said the drugs were produced in basements of homes, garages, bathrooms, and medical laboratories, and there were thousands of clients. Also closed in the crackdown were homegrown labs from Canada."
PT SPORTSTICKER

56 labs in the whole operation[RAW DEAL] but just 26 in the latest four day raid. My guess is they are grouping the Ill bust and another bust in NB earlier in the year with the latest set.

[shithead]

This:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070311/steroids_070311?s_name=&no_ads=

[R.F.S.]

hmmm interesting......

[D-S]

For a second there I was worried, but that article was in March, so must of been you know who

[shithead]

Yeah, they just tagged that on.....not a concern.

[Sean]

Taken from another board: (actually more than 30)


(promethus) AKA BIgfoot AKA Juggernaught
AML
API
Aka pitbull
Anabolic-superstore
BTLabs
Bodyz
GALABS
GYMVET
GasMAN
Gavin Kane
Genescience
Genpharm
Gym ace (OWNER OF SSB)
HUMA
JTP (ADMIN/OWNER SSB)
Mamta
OGL
Powerline
Pro Pharm
Prolabs
QGL- NON-AAS RELATED
Rugio
SAAMR
SIUG
Savannah
Southern Labs
Spyder
Stallion Labs
Titan supply
Tweak
US Pharma
VISION AKA Phoenix Pharm

[gustavo77]

Hey Sean what's up dog, long time bro. Good to see you here!

[mandarb11]

They act like this is a major problem in our society.....I don't get it they should be focusing on the real problems in our society. I guess these busts get all the headlines and they usually don't have to worry about the juice dealer shooting them when they come to arrest them. A good bro in the US who was arrestted a couple weeks ago ended up committing suicide over it. It is a sad, sad thing that LE cant go after the real problems........

[7 Scape O'Tech]

I was curious as to what involvement the RCMP had if not for arresting cdn labs...but a friend pointed out that hush was in BC, and so it may have been with gathering hush records for the US LE.

[MIAGIONJUS]

hush as in the email??

[7 Scape O'Tech]

yes sir, hush handed over records.

[D-S]

Some of those people listed are international so nothing will happen to them

[MIAGIONJUS]

wow, that fukin sucks... so i should prolly change my email account?

[D-S]

No your fine bro, they were after specific people related to the list you see above

[Kronis]

so still no word on any canuck labs going down?

I guess we can only hope that sources are smart and delete all old emails.

[Big D]

I spoke to a few reps and they heard nothing
i think the canadian labs will survive

[gustavo77]

i think the canadian labs will survive

I hope and pray also. We have already lost to many good people down south...

[pseclint]

I was curious as to what involvement the RCMP had if not for arresting cdn labs...but a friend pointed out that hush was in BC, and so it may have been with gathering hush records for the US LE.

i thought hush was in toronto........ i'll see if i can find where i saw that

[shithead]

Hush Communications Ltd
Suite 1177 - 1100 Melville Street - Box 27
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V6E 4A6

[macka]

QGL? Damn I haven't heard of him since back in the day. I thought he was nabbed back when r00tz was popped.

[pseclint]

Hush Communications Ltd
Suite 1177 - 1100 Melville Street - Box 27
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V6E 4A6

i thought they had servers or something in toronto though....... i dunno maybe i just wanna drag this on...

[mcgee]

if the feds mirror a computer, r u pretty much f#$!ed

[7 Scape O'Tech]

i recommend encrypting your hard drive with drivecrypt.

[srt8]

steganos for the win

[St]

One of the sites was www.outlawmuscle.com
were most of these guys were popped.

[srt8]

steroidsuperboard.com as well.

[Admin]

That would probably be wise. Can anyone recommend something overseas? Safe-mail.net. Anyone know if that's any good and where it's located?

[ergie]

Best bet is to find an offshore one........

[7 Scape O'Tech]

guys check out

http://s-mail.com/

seems based out of ireland, but maybe someone better with computers can verify this?

[tony_canuck]

let me know about the email thing too....i know we had this talk over at another board, but there was no final answer as to whats the best......

is there a dedicated thread on this?

[pseclint]

what about this one:

http://www.anonymousspeech.com/

[sosa#1]

I 100% recommend www.ironkey.com

You plug the stick in the USB slot on ANY computer, and leaves ZERO footprints, no trails. I know the owner and coming out with an updated version in a week or so, HIGHLY recommend, nothing comes close. Also keep eyes open for www.secretpc.com in the near future ;)

[shithead]

should we switch, I mean, I dont say anything of importance but I hate the patriot act and how it even affects us.

[shithead]

I hate Harper.

[pseclint]

i love lamp

[St]

what about this one:

http://www.anonymousspeech.com/

There is only a free trial 14 days,then you have to pay.

[pseclint]

There is only a free trial 14 days,then you have to pay.

yea but its about staying safe...... if it costs a little more to stay safe it would be all worth it in the end

[St]

yea but its about staying safe...... if it costs a little more to stay safe it would be all worth it in the end

Yes very true,but i like free stuff like the NDP party Oct 10.:)

[AVEC]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070924/steroid_ring_070924/20070924/

read the headline and its from the 24th

[AVEC]

yes sir, hush handed over records.

Images A federal appeals court on Monday issued a landmark decision (.pdf) that holds that e-mail has similar constitutional privacy protections as telephone communications, meaning that federal investigators who search and seize emails without obtaining probable cause warrants will now have to do so.

"This decision is of inestimable importance in a world where most of us have webmail accounts," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation


that is grounds of an illegal search and seizure

[7 Scape O'Tech]

I could be wrong, but they did busts all over the world, thailand etc on the same day. You would think everything which culminated under op raw deal, would have transpired with raids/arrests at the same time. I can't them going completely public with the whole thing when arrests were still to come. At least let's hope that is the case for our cdn brother. Ill be saying a prayer for all of them. And avec very interesting post above about email.

[shithead]

Good find.....where the hell did ya find that?

[D-S]

Images A federal appeals court on Monday issued a landmark decision (.pdf) that holds that e-mail has similar constitutional privacy protections as telephone communications, meaning that federal investigators who search and seize emails without obtaining probable cause warrants will now have to do so.

"This decision is of inestimable importance in a world where most of us have webmail accounts," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation


that is grounds of an illegal search and seizure


So your saying all the emails they collected from hush, they won't be able to use in their cases?

[7 Scape O'Tech]

that'd be great, i imagine that'd be the majority of the case against alot of them.

[macka]

If Hush voluntarily handed over teh emails, then they would open themselves to lawsuit for invasion of privacy and civil rights violations. A smart person with a good lawyer could make a bit of $$.

[AVEC]

So your saying all the emails they collected from hush, they won't be able to use in their cases?

if they have probable cause then they can do whatever..and also in the US they also have a fall back called "good faith clause" which even if it was illegal the end result was the person was breaking the law then the warrant still sticks..they acted upon good faith...This was right from an associate at Ricks office

[ManInTheBox]

if they have probable cause then they can do whatever..and also in the US they also have a fall back called "good faith clause" which even if it was illegal the end result was the person was breaking the law then the warrant still sticks..they acted upon good faith...This was right from an associate at Ricks office

Don't ascribe US law to Canadian. While you are correct that reasonable and probable grounds will allow them to procure a warrant on the basis of evidence supported by USA agents (and this is most probably what ocurred) you are incorrect in assuming an "ends justify the means" doctrine exists in Canada. Any illegally obtained evidence cannot hold up in a court of criminal jurisdiction and any illegal search/seizure cannot be justified under the charter as a reasonable limit due to the ramifications it can cause among society.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

sounds like we have a lawyer in the house, welcome bro, great info shared, thank you!

[AVEC]

correct MITB..that applies to the US..should have clarified..

[BAM]

So the verdict on cyber/hush is?

Has anyone found another (totally overseas) decent secure mail ?

[St]

guys check out

http://s-mail.com/

seems based out of ireland, but maybe someone better with computers can verify this?

This looks like a good e-mail,i will give it a shot.

[BolicPower]

For now that seems best

[7 Scape O'Tech]

damn noticed you only get 1 month free, than gotta pay, but can use egold if anyone has it...

[ManInTheBox]

One Important thing to add to what I wrote above, Real evidence may still be admissible in court as it existed prior to the charter violation. So in regards to hushmail being searched illegally that evidence is still admissible as the evidence existed irrespective of the charter violation. Thus its use does not automatically render a trial unfair. However, it still remains a question of law as to whether or not evidence is still admissible. Generally though, police obtain warrants to make the crown's job easier.

[vvega]

So the verdict on cyber/hush is?

Has anyone found another (totally overseas) decent secure mail ?

s-mail.com

[leeroy]

Hey MITB. Thanks. Glad to have you on the board. You seem like a great asset.