Clomid/Nolva PCT

[trainharder]

I know...this topic has been touched more than Jenna Jameson's ass but I just want to make sure I'm doing this optimally..

I did 4 weeks of dbol frontload (30mg/day) and a total of 12 weeks of Test-E (500mg/wk). Last shot was 2 weeks ago so it's PCT time..

I was also using HCG for the past 6 weeks (250iu every 3.5 days) and my balls are hanging nicely..

I'm thinking:

wk1: Clomid 100mg/day, Nolva 40mg/day
wk2: Clomid 50mg/day, Nolva 40mg/ day
wk3: Clomid 50mg/day, Nolva 40mg/day
wk4: Nolva 20mg/day

How does that look?

Btw, when do you guys feel that you lose most of your strength/size (if any) during PCT?

I'm starting PCT tomorrow and my strength has held pretty much constant so far..

ps: I only have Nolva and Clomid on hand.. Will likely use Aromasin and Clomid in my next PCT.

[theboss]

looks fine...

you wont start losing anything until after PCT..well atleast i dont...eat the same & keep training hard and you should be fine

you could probably cut back the nolva to 20mg for weeks 2 & 3 since you used HCG

[Solo59]

I agree; it looks good. You could tweak just a bit for a better taper by going down to 20 mg ED of Nolva for week three. Clomid 100 mg ED in week one may cause you sides like heat flashes or mood swings so you could just bear it or lower your dose when the sides begin.

Good use of HCG.

Solo

[gustavo77]

SERM overload!!...i really do not think you need all those SERMS bro...this is what i suggest for pct and it works well for me and others who run it:

Wk 1-3 Clomid 100mg/day (taper down to 50mg/day wk 2-3 if you are getting sides)
Wk 1-5 Aromasin 25mg/day

[PdH]

SERM overload!!...i really do not think you need all those SERMS bro...this is what i suggest for pct and it works well for me and others who run it:

Wk 1-3 Clomid 100mg/day (taper down to 50mg/day wk 2-3 if you are getting sides)
Wk 1-5 Aromasin 25mg/day

Hey Gus, I'm just wondering why you suggest Clomid over Nolva. I just started my first cycle (3 1/2 weeks in) in about 17 years and we didn't have PCT back then, so any info would be appreciated. I'm doing 400 mg Test-E/300 mg Deca per week (for 16 weeks), have Nolva on hand, and A-dex on the way. Should I substitute the Nolva for Clomid?

I don't mean to hijack this thread, it just seems an opportune time to ask this.

[theboss]

PdH.....i feel nolva is better as an anti-e ....only needed for gyno flare ups..i prefer clomid especially if using deca or tren...if i was you i would use HCG as well during cycle

[PdH]

PdH.....i feel nolva is better as an anti-e ....only needed for gyno flare ups..i prefer clomid especially if using deca or tren...if i was you i would use HCG as well during cycle

Thanks for the info Boss. I'll see about getting some HCG. Also, could you clarify if I should substitute the Nolva for Clomid during PCT. I've already had to start Nolva use as the start of Gyno is apparent. I respond very quickly to gear.

[theboss]

i would get clomid as well...keep it for pct...
use nolva during cycle if its gyno from test @ 20mg/day....until its gone...then stop.

[PdH]

i would get clomid as well...keep it for pct...
use nolva during cycle if its gyno from test @ 20mg/day....until its gone...then stop.

Thanks Bro. :)

[gustavo77]

Hey Gus, I'm just wondering why you suggest Clomid over Nolva. I just started my first cycle (3 1/2 weeks in) in about 17 years and we didn't have PCT back then, so any info would be appreciated. I'm doing 400 mg Test-E/300 mg Deca per week (for 16 weeks), have Nolva on hand, and A-dex on the way. Should I substitute the Nolva for Clomid?

I don't mean to hijack this thread, it just seems an opportune time to ask this.

The reason is because in MY research clomid has much better data backing it's effectiveness at boosting LH and test in males. You do not need much clomid for it to work well, 50-100mg/day max.

[PdH]

Thanks Gus. :)