winny and joints after cycle?

[deleteduser0001]

I ran a short 6 week cycle of prop 500mg a week and 100mg of winny ED. No pain, no discomfort, but I am now a 10 days out and into PCT and my joints feel like I am 90 years old! I have had this feeling before when I ran winny up to 150mg a day years ago but holy shit, anyone had this happen? 10-14 days out of the cycle and your joints dry up?

[HoliTheCat]

I ran a short 6 week cycle of prop 500mg a week and 100mg of winny ED. No pain, no discomfort, but I am now a 10 days out and into PCT and my joints feel like I am 90 years old! I have had this feeling before when I ran winny up to 150mg a day years ago but holy shit, anyone had this happen? 10-14 days out of the cycle and your joints dry up?

Yup, and I had it only using 50 - 75mgs of winni. 100 would ****en leave me a cripple.

I would take some glucosamine and up the omega-3's for a few weeks. Some swear by MSM as well sir.

(BAM I WAS USEFUL)

[BAM]

ok ok..

my bad. :)

[HoliTheCat]

ok ok..

my bad. :)

:D

(But I do see your point - most of my shit isn't productive in the sense of 'bodybuilding' - I can definitely be a bit more helpful around here and will try and be so in the future)

[nitrous]

couldnt the pct also be causing a lack of estrogen so a lack of water in the joints making things even worse?

like the others said i take glucosamine and msm everyday and went i get joint issues i add in shark cartilage.. and of course omega 3 all the time

[deleteduser0001]

well, just to be clear, this has never happened before. the PCT is the same as usual and the winny is the same as last time, so i am just a bit confused to what happened this time.

[Praetorian]

First thing unless you are a few weeks out from competition 100mg winny ED is way overkill and completely unnecessary. 50mg ED will suffice just fine. Winny has a tendency to pull water from the joints and the body hence the drying effect and cosmetic hardening. Thus while you continue to train over time the joints do not have the normal level of lubrication and take a beating. When you come off the aas you start to feel this after a few weeks.

A few things you can do:
1. High intake of fish oil (up to 30g daily-natural antiflam)
2. Glucosamine + MSM
3. Omega Alpha makes a very good antiflam product
4. Pennsaid topically on the joints (contains DMSO as a transport and antiflam)
5. Adequan 1cc EOD for 4-5 weeks
6. Ease up on the weights and volume for a few weeks, dont train to failure

P

[Mr Ontario]

This what I use on a regular basis.

http://www.belllifestyleproducts.com/products.htm

I actually have it on sale this month for $20.00

[C-money]

im just finishing my winny(2 weeks left) now bro... i feel like im an old man LMAO!

[waderow]

i am never going to touch winny again unless i decide to compete and need to thin my skin up with the water loss. otherwise it as no purpose for me after the last run made my shoulders feel like i had glass shards in them

[deleteduser0001]

First thing unless you are a few weeks out from competition 100mg winny ED is way overkill and completely unnecessary. 50mg ED will suffice just fine. Winny has a tendency to pull water from the joints and the body hence the drying effect and cosmetic hardening. Thus while you continue to train over time the joints do not have the normal level of lubrication and take a beating. When you come off the aas you start to feel this after a few weeks.


I wanted to say thanks, I really respect the quality of your posts. I have used 50mg oral in the past with marginal results, thats why I have always gone to 100mg, tends to work best for me.

[natenator]

I seriously still cannot even fathom how bad I'd feel trying to get out of bed every morning with 100mg ED of winny in me.

Maybe my joints from years of hockey, football, powerlifting and bodybuilding are worse than some others but I know I'd feel like a cripple from that - more than I already do lol

[deleteduser0001]

just as an update, my joints are fine now. I can deal with the pain if i know its short lived.

[xtr3m3m3t4l]

at a 100m ED when did you feel pain in your joints? How long did it last when you went into PCT?

[SmallieBigs]

Good to hear bro, glad it's gone now.... Ya had me scared off of ever using winny for a minute there.... lol

[deleteduser0001]

at a 100m ED when did you feel pain in your joints? How long did it last when you went into PCT?

at 150mg ED, i felt it next day (long time ago). thies time at 100mg ED, only post....3-4 days after?

[xtr3m3m3t4l]

Ok cool. I'm thinking of doing 4 months of winstrol after my 16 weeks of test. We'll see what happens.

[xtr3m3m3t4l]

ugh... 4 weeks i mean.

[faller]

ugh... 4 weeks i mean.

LOL, ya i was kinda wandering there :D