2010 Camaro SS or 2010 Shelby GT500?

[HoliTheCat]

Both Ford and Chevy have obviously reworked two of the recognizable names in car history.

The new mustangs interior is beautiful, while the Camaro might have the edge on outside appearance.

And just so we're all clear. That Shelby has 540 stock HP while the Camaro comes in @ I believe 410hp.

[natenator]

this gets my money...

[champcar99]

better have a endless supply of cash to own one of those muscle cars...gas prices are not going to get any lower any time soon but they are beautiful cars...

[HoliTheCat]

this gets my money...

You didn't vote. lol.

And don't get me wrong, the m3 is a beautiful car. I love the 335i as well. My only issue with the car is the popularity here in Vancouver. Every asian (no offense asians) seems to have one. I remember walking with my gf and we were looking at a nice bodykitted 335i convert parked when during that 3 minutes 3 other 3 serious drove past (not all the 335 model) but still..wtf!!!

[natenator]

You didn't vote. lol.

And don't get me wrong, the m3 is a beautiful car. I love the 335i as well. My only issue with the car is the popularity here in Vancouver. Every asian (no offense asians) seems to have one. I remember walking with my gf and we were looking at a nice bodykitted 335i convert parked when during that 3 minutes 3 other 3 serious drove past (not all the 335 model) but still..wtf!!!
how about the m5 then? I agree about BMW. I live in Ottawa and every ****tard and their brother have one but they all seem to drive the 3 series - cheap versions.

If I do get one it'll be one that's different than every other on the street. I was considering the Mercedez CLS500 but I think it is too ostentatious for me.

[HoliTheCat]

how about the m5 then? I agree about BMW. I live in Ottawa and every ****tard and their brother have one but they all seem to drive the 3 series - cheap versions.

If I do get one it'll be one that's different than every other on the street. I was considering the Mercedez CLS500 but I think it is too ostentatious for me.

I think both the m5 and the CLS500 are beautiful and far less common.

But they are not included in my American Muscle Car Shootout homo. :D Pick one.


And I suppose BMW is so common now due to the fact that they really do make great cars...it is a positive overall just a negative when you want to be not asian.

[natenator]

I can't vote. They are, quite simply, ugly as hell. I can';t vote for what I wouldn't be caught dead in... lol

[HoliTheCat]

I can't vote. They are, quite simply, ugly as hell. I can';t vote for what I wouldn't be caught dead in... lol

OMG! You keep posting and not voting. ****! You are throwing off my poll thread. You're gonna get it Natie. I don't know when and I don't know how. But i have a feeling it's gonna be when your sleeping. Yeah. When you're sleeping. I'm gonna piss all over you. And thats gross. Right now it's my piss on me, and I can deal with that. But it's gonna be my piss on you, and that's just gross.

[Big D]

I dont like either, i'm a fag

[HoliTheCat]

I dont like either, i'm a fag

Thank you for voting Sir.

[natenator]

voted bitch!

[HoliTheCat]

voted bitch!

Thanks hon. Now I will not pee on you.

[waderow]

i would have said the shelby, but the problem is the way ford works and that you can get that body style in a $20G V6, a $35G GT V8, or the $100G Shelby, and from the outside, the biggest difference is the decal.

If Ford turfed the V6, I would consider a Mustang, but as long as a non performance version exists, it is cheezy.

This is my vote and without any doubt should have been included in the American Muscle car shootout LOL

[HoliTheCat]

i would have said the shelby, but the problem is the way ford works and that you can get that body style in a $20G V6, a $35G GT V8, or the $100G Shelby, and from the outside, the biggest difference is the decal.

If Ford turfed the V6, I would consider a Mustang, but as long as a non performance version exists, it is cheezy.

This is my vote and without any doubt should have been included in the American Muscle car shootout LOL

Very solid points...v6s are the lose.

And you are correct about the Corvette. Doesn't the new ZR1 smoke ferraris and lambos or something? I thnk I read that.

[ironwill]

i love the shelby gt.....except the color.....rad car.....

[waderow]

Very solid points...v6s are the lose.

And you are correct about the Corvette. Doesn't the new ZR1 smoke ferraris and lambos or something? I thnk I read that.

the Z06 will go against any car in the world, and yes the ZR1 is even more hardcore

[HoliTheCat]

i love the shelby gt.....except the color.....rad car.....

That is cuz you are a real man.

[Big D]

Very solid points...v6s are the lose.

And you are correct about the Corvette. Doesn't the new ZR1 smoke ferraris and lambos or something? I thnk I read that.


it does beat the ferrari but its ferraris lower end model. i think price wise you get more out of the ZR1

[Big D]

holisexxx you picking one of these bad boys up ?

[HoliTheCat]

holisexxx you picking one of these bad boys up ?

Considering it bro. I haven't tested either of them yet - and not sure when I will be able to walk on a dealership and do it. From what I have gathered all the early models are spoken for. So it isn't easy to take them out since you are driving someone elses car lol.

I thought of the new challenger but when I sat inside it was just 'too plastic'.

And the Shelby GT500 is roughly 54k (Not in the same price league as the zr1 which is like 115k or some shit).

Also looking at some suv's again as well. (Lincoln mkx and infinit fx34/45)

I have a serious ****ing problem choosing a car. So last time I was looking I copped out and bought a boat and moorage instead and I had my cbr.

Now I just have a boat, and summer is approaching. That means roadtrips, so it is time for a vehicle (I live dt van and everything I want to see is within walking distance).

[Gettin'r'round]

They both are major fugly. Also gotta love the timing.

I had a Firebird back in the '90s and they were sweet looking. i did have the v6 (lose) but still came close to losing my license. hell 1 year I paid $8500 in insurance. thankfully at the time 50km over just got you a ticket, lol. if I had the v8 I probably would have lost my license anyway, not to mention the fact the v8 would have made insurance impossible

i'm not a fag btw either

[HoliTheCat]

i'm not a fag btw either

Ok. Roffle. Meg and you play tummysticks for sure.

[Gettin'r'round]

Ok. Roffle. Meg and you play tummysticks for sure.

don't make me mad and erase my post in your var thread.

[HoliTheCat]

don't make me mad and erase my post in your var thread.

i love you and your not gay at all. i lied about the tummy sticks. it was me and meg.

Also I am listening to 'Beautiful" by James Blunt right now. And I am singing. And i'm not wearing a shirt.

[natenator]

don't make me mad and erase my post in your var thread.
quoted it. Go ahead Holi and ass rape him if you want which we all know you DO want to do

[Gettin'r'round]

quoted it. Go ahead Holi and ass rape him if you want which we all know you DO want to do

what so you can watch and sell the vid to expand your "business"

sad, so sad...

[HoliTheCat]

quoted it. Go ahead Holi and ass rape him if you want which we all know you DO want to do

**** bro - i already apologized. Thanks for looking out though. Next time we'll get him :D

[waderow]

bro, are you sure the shelby is $54000?

I know the MSRP is, and when they first came out, i went with my cheque book to go buy one, but once there the sales guy laughed and said the MSRP doesnt apply here, were charging $110,000.00. I then laughed and said you can get a Z06 for that price and left.

Perhaps they are not so much in demand as they were at first, but I would call a dealership first. The SVT vehicles are always **** jobs when they sell them

[HoliTheCat]

bro, are you sure the shelby is $54000?

I know the MSRP is, and when they first came out, i went with my cheque book to go buy one, but once there the sales guy laughed and said the MSRP doesnt apply here, were charging $110,000.00. I then laughed and said you can get a Z06 for that price and left.

Perhaps they are not so much in demand as they were at first, but I would call a dealership first. The SVT vehicles are always **** jobs when they sell them

**** me. Brutal. You are probably right. I was going by MSRP. Good looking out. Wow. 110k for a mustang makes me want to vomit.

Instead I will listen to Joshua Radin.

[HoliTheCat]

101 views and 9 votes. Fail.

[Danger]

You need to watch Topgear! I think the last version of the GT500 claimed 500hp but when they put it on the dyno it only had 427whp... your likly to get more power buying a GT and doing header/exhaust/intake and you'll save at least $20k and make the same power with a good tune.

As far as looks the GT500 is by far the nicer looking car I think the Camaro looks pretty ass to be honest.

Also who the hell would pay $110,000.00 for a Mustang? That doesent make any sense at all you can buy a much faster car for that cash...

[420]

I love how im a fag is an option. hahah LMAO!

[waderow]

You need to watch Topgear! I think the last version of the GT500 claimed 500hp but when they put it on the dyno it only had 427whp... your likly to get more power buying a GT and doing header/exhaust/intake and you'll save at least $20k and make the same power with a good tune.

As far as looks the GT500 is by far the nicer looking car I think the Camaro looks pretty ass to be honest.

Also who the hell would pay $110,000.00 for a Mustang? That doesent make any sense at all you can buy a much faster car for that cash...

thats true with almost every vehicle. engine HP versus HP to wheels reported on dyno is very different due to inefficiencies in powertrain

[Big D]

THIS IS MY NEXT CAR

[HoliTheCat]

THIS IS MY NEXT CAR

Awesome.

[Gettin'r'round]

Awesome.

yup, I could have used that this morning. eventually figured that he let his 16yr old daughter drive herself to school with him as the passenger. dude, that what weekends are for. talk about shit-scared driving. stopping at every right turn, constant braking. GET THE **** OUTTA MY WAY!!!!!!!

Ready...

launch...



FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pinhead]

Shelby looks awesome.

[Ritch]

I love how im a fag is an option. hahah LMAO!

So now you can vote!

[AlladdinSane]

http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-GTX-440-1971-Plymouth-MOPAR-W0QQAdIdZ108216249

http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1970-Charger-500-W0QQAdIdZ64118343

You can buy both of these for less than the price of one of the other ones.

Way more rare and gonna turn way more heads.

[Danger]

Its actually just an American thing to advertise more horsepower than you actually make, in japan most cars are underrated in the advertising I believe a lot of euro cars are the same. Who gives a shit how much bhp you make the only power that counts is the kind you can use. Which leads to the biggest problem I have with the Shelby... the stone age suspension... why in 2010 are selling cars with 540hp and a solid rear axle... I guess burnouts are cool but really why not have independent rear suspension and a LSD... you know so you can use that power.

Also I track my cars so my opinions reflect that, I'm sure for daily street driving the car is badass but I already own two cars that turn heads if I was buying something like this it needs to do more than that for my money.

[HoliTheCat]

You're all whores. 240ish views, 20ish votes. wtf? How hard is it to click on of the 3 options.

THERE IS AN OPTION THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE!!! ****!

[HoliTheCat]

Its actually just an American thing to advertise more horsepower than you actually make, in japan most cars are underrated in the advertising I believe a lot of euro cars are the same. Who gives a shit how much bhp you make the only power that counts is the kind you can use. Which leads to the biggest problem I have with the Shelby... the stone age suspension... why in 2010 are selling cars with 540hp and a solid rear axle... I guess burnouts are cool but really why not have independent rear suspension and a LSD... you know so you can use that power.

Also I track my cars so my opinions reflect that, I'm sure for daily street driving the car is badass but I already own two cars that turn heads if I was buying something like this it needs to do more than that for my money.

I thought I read somewhere that the 2010 Shelby GT500 wasn't going to have a solid rear axle. I might be wrong though.

[AlladdinSane]

I clicked the gt500 and then gave more options.

[HoliTheCat]

I clicked the gt500 and then gave more options.

I know you did bro, you are a gifted and great human. And both cars are beautiful.

My only problem is I live downtown Van in a condo with 1 parking spot. If I had a garage and space to work on something, I would certainly go the route of older and build it myself (or as much as I could...the rest I would send out)

[Danger]

I thought I read somewhere that the 2010 Shelby GT500 wasn't going to have a solid rear axle. I might be wrong though.

Yeah all Mustangs have a solid rear axle even the GT500KR no wonder its so heavy (1,778 kgs).

[kyle]

I have a 2008 Shelby. Paid 55k for it out of the box. Nice car very good bang for you bucks. With a few mods you can push 600hp easily. I think the build quality is better then the corvette but the vette is faster no doubt. I have enjoyed the car so far its reliable and cheap to maintain and probably will stay maintence free for at least 5 years. My 80's 930 turbo is way more fun to drive way less reliable and you better lube up when you take it in to get work done!

[HoliTheCat]

I have a 2008 Shelby. Paid 55k for it out of the box. Nice car very good bang for you bucks. With a few mods you can push 600hp easily. I think the build quality is better then the corvette but the vette is faster no doubt. I have enjoyed the car so far its reliable and cheap to maintain and probably will stay maintence free for at least 5 years. My 80's 930 turbo is way more fun to drive way less reliable and you better lube up when you take it in to get work done!

Thanks Kyle.

[kyle]

Holi if your considering the shelby you can probably pick one up for under 50 grand now. The dealership where I live had a new one on the lot for 45k last time I drove past. You probably won't find a better sports car for the price that you can use as your daily driver

[waderow]

thats interesting.... glad they came down, as no ****ing way they were worth 110K

[Danger]

An '08 for $45k is rediculous value, is the economy really so bad no one snapped that up...

[kloan]

No question, Camaro is a MUCH sexier beast IMO.

[WRJ]

yeah I've driven my uncle's 07' gt500 a few times....I was quite impressed actually, he bought from down south when our dollar was much better, got it to his house with all inspections for $52,000....immediatly bolted on the reg mods, chip, exhaust, pulley, cold-air intake....dynoed @ 520RWHP (approx.600 @ crank). That car mmmoooovvveeessss!!! U can get real snakey if your not careful ;) BTW he now slammed it 2" and has a sweet set of 20's that really help the look and ride height.

[WRJ]

i should get some pics up, it's one of the nicest 500's ive seen. also dad has a c6 'vette, we've raced the 420hp vette (crank hp) vs. 600hp shelby gt500 a few times. guess what, the vette hooks incredibly and pulls away by a good 3-4 car lengths, as soon as the GT hooks (in 3rd gear!) it slowly starts to pull closer.....we've only raced to approx. 160km/hr and the GT never caught up completly! GT500 could really use a prper traction control like the vette has....

[waderow]

i would hate to see a Z06 versus the gt500.

The gt500 is quick though...no doubt.... just lacks refinement

[kloan]

I saw a GT500 cruising along down here on a straight.. all of a sudden he dropped a gear and took off like ****in crazy... VERY fast. Some shit in a Prelude was trying to keep up... stupid thing either backfired or blew something cuz I heard a loud BANG... that 'Stang was long gone though...

[HoliTheCat]

i should get some pics up, it's one of the nicest 500's ive seen. also dad has a c6 'vette, we've raced the 420hp vette (crank hp) vs. 600hp shelby gt500 a few times. guess what, the vette hooks incredibly and pulls away by a good 3-4 car lengths, as soon as the GT hooks (in 3rd gear!) it slowly starts to pull closer.....we've only raced to approx. 160km/hr and the GT never caught up completly! GT500 could really use a prper traction control like the vette has....

Thanks bro. I would love to see some pics - sounds like a beautiful car.

[fathead]

holi- for the $$$ get a c63 amg. best thing out there for the $$. undervalued by 20k. and there is very few around. even in van. the wait for them is about 6 months but if you are really interested i can get ya one drop me a line if you care to chat about it

[Andre]

I am in the market for a GT500... there are several 09's going for 44K around Toronto...

With about $2500 of boltons these cars make over 600HP...

For those of you who are into big HP cars... I built Canada's fastest DOT drag radial car and 1st car to break into the 7's in the 1/4... I am into straight line performance :)

http://lh5.google.com/avigdor.andre/R6zo8OBU2jI/AAAAAAAAAps/CLwsC-fKbZM/s800/gmhtp.jpg

[kyle]

There are alot on nice cars for cheap now. A few weeks ago I called a dealer in LA about a 2008 porsche 911 convertable with 2000 miles. They sold it for 25k

[HoliTheCat]

There are alot on nice cars for cheap now. A few weeks ago I called a dealer in LA about a 2008 porsche 911 convertable with 2000 miles. They sold it for 25k

wtf - where are you finding these deals? Show me. I need a car lol. Thanks :D

[manfreakca]

i love to get my hands on a super snake 725 horses.

[kloan]

There are alot on nice cars for cheap now. A few weeks ago I called a dealer in LA about a 2008 porsche 911 convertable with 2000 miles. They sold it for 25k

dude, it's crazy down here for cars. they're so much cheaper than in canada.. by thousands and thousands... i've seen so many kick ass used cars with low mileage, really high end cars and sports cars for way less than you could ever get them for in toronto.

wish i had some $$... i found a sweet '92 500E for $8400...

[fathead]

"cool" eh. well thats all relative. i dont think fords are cool but thats me.

[t-bone]

well if a certain member here brings out his shelby thats been done out i will put my corvette z06 up against it and we will c what happens...lol

btw the zr1 beats the high end lambos and others easy

[HoliTheCat]

well if a certain member here brings out his shelby thats been done out i will put my corvette z06 up against it and we will c what happens...lol

btw the zr1 beats the high end lambos and others easy

what yr zr1?

[icey_boi]

shelby

[HoliTheCat]

2009

Sickest Corvette ever made.. Would love to get my hands on one.

hmm i was just looking at them online...not my fav car - never been a corvette fan really. For 150k I prefer the look of the maserati granturismo, vantage, hell, even the bentley, or find a used ford gt40 if i was focused on a 2seater. probably even find a 08 r8 for same price as a new zr1...

everyones tastes differ. no denying that it is a sick piece of tech though

[waderow]

^^^ I am with Flexy. I am all over the vette. Pure ****ing muscle, but has the other refinements to go with it. Suspension. Brakes. Body

[WRJ]

would give left nut for new ZR-1 (serious)