weird sleep pattern from ephies?

[L3]

i've been using 16mg ehpiedrine pre workout for a couple months now... recently i started noticing that my sleep was weird... more like i wouldnt be tired before bed (usually 10-11pm) and i would go in and out of sleep... dreams were more like daydreams, not real dreams, very short, not sure if im going into REM

stress is good, diet is amazing (if i say so myself), only using 2 pills green tea in the morning, no other caffeine

anyone else get like this?

[buildinthaskinnys]

I experienced the same thing during a period of about 4 months of using upwards of 24mg a day (with weekends off) totally ****ed my sleeping patterns and after discountinuing, I experienced a period of severe lethargy for over two years, I have read that ephedrine can damage your endocrine systems and in particular your adrenilin production. I use it with extreme caution these days maybe 16 mg a month no more. I would stop using that shit asap if I were you, and get a check up if your problem still persists, It could be unrelated or not.

I dont know how dangerous ephedrine is for most people but I know the dangers of using it for myself, and to back that up more than a few people have croaked using it.

[smukker]

Yea when i was using Ephederine i would get the exact same thing, but i was seeing too good of results to quit, soo i just kept taking them feeling tired all the time and grumpy it also didnt help that i was keeping my carbs super low, and eventually i ran out of them and after a couple days of just sleeping all day i told myself that me and ephederine just dont get along. Some might ask when were you taking them, i myself workout first thing in the morning, they would kick in, then they would seem to get a second wind later in the evening when i was trying to relax.

[physique]

depends what time u take them.

if i take them after 3pm i am ****ed for falling asleep. anytime before that though and all is well.

[L3]

thanks for the replies guys, i'll finish this last bottle and cut it out... which sucks cause combined with my diet its leaning me out very very nicely...

i take them aroudn 4:30 pm so that is contributing to the sides, and the only free time i have to work out is later in the PM

o well caffeine pills are cheap too :)

[faller]

i take them aroudn 4:30 pm so that is contributing

Definitly!! When i was takeing ephies i never took any past noon.

[Ritch]

Seems odd you can`t sleep especially if you take them a good 6 hours before bedtime. They have cleared your bloodstream. And 16mg is low dose. I simply can`t train as good without it and it`s almost a must. Try some st john`s wort to calm you down.

[69challenger]

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[St]

thanks for the replies guys, i'll finish this last bottle and cut it out... which sucks cause combined with my diet its leaning me out very very nicely...

i take them aroudn 4:30 pm so that is contributing to the sides, and the only free time i have to work out is later in the PM

o well caffeine pills are cheap too :)

Ya most stop at about 3pm.The stuff is in the system for up to 8 hours.
For me i stop all my ephies at 2 pm.

[metallord]

Everyone has different tolerances.I know for a fact that i myself abused that shit for years,sometimes uo to 200 mg a day for days on end.I still have irregular heart beats sometimes and i havent touched effie for 5 or 6 years.I actually O.D on the crap once.I know thats a touch extreme but i would stay away from that shit,theres reasons the F.D.A. keeps trying to ban it.There has been many effie related deaths also.Your choice but i think that shit is deadly,they use it to make crystal meth HMMM!!!

[Dozer1980]

i take them at 5:00 pm or so and train at 7:30 doesnt seem to mess me up much sleep wise anyhow

[faller]

Everyone has different tolerances.I know for a fact that i myself abused that shit for years,sometimes uo to 200 mg a day for days on end.I still have irregular heart beats sometimes and i havent touched effie for 5 or 6 years.I actually O.D on the crap once.I know thats a touch extreme but i would stay away from that shit,theres reasons the F.D.A. keeps trying to ban it.There has been many effie related deaths also.Your choice but i think that shit is deadly,they use it to make crystal meth HMMM!!!

HMMMM indeed.. Lets not start fear mongering here. There are really only two reason's the FDA banned Ephedrine,

People Exceeded the recommended dosage.

Used the product in spite of medical condition.

It's true, its not for everyone, but used responsibly it's completly safe.

[metallord]

Well i wouldnt call it fear mongering.Facts are facts ,there has been many ephie related deaths ,probably due to health problems that were unknowen by the user at the time of use.One case i read was at a very low dose and was a high school student ,so probably under the age of 18 .Most decogestants that used ephie in ther mix stoped because of the health risks.You would have had to take alot of them to get as much pure ephie as say the brands that are regularly used.To each his own but when your dealing with something that is as strong as ephidrine id think twice about using to much.