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xtr3m3m3t4l
31-03-2009, 06:40 PM
What are your thoughts on a Sustanon only cycle?

waderow
31-03-2009, 06:44 PM
cool. why not... test is test is test. many guys run test only cycles for first couple cycles.

xtr3m3m3t4l
31-03-2009, 06:49 PM
I figured as a first cycle I would drop the Tren and stick with Test. I don't think it's necessary to start off with a hard steroid with tren, dealing with the insomnia and night sweats and ED injections.

What kind of gains could I expect with a 8 week cycle of test.

500mg a week, EOD injections.

6'0 190lbs. 15% body fat. Training for 3 years. 24 years old.

I wont go into detail on diet but it would be around 5000- 6000 calories a day and about 2 grams of protien per lb of bodyfat.

Of course training 4-5 days a week.

Dozer1980
31-03-2009, 07:08 PM
i wouldnt train every day imo and gains are different for everyone it all really depends on your diet and sleep as well as your training but IMO 5 days a week training are a little much to fully recover from. Also eod injects arnt needed with sus IMO because of the long esters in it 2 times a week at 250mg are sufficent, there are alot of real knowledgeable fellas here though and they might have some other ideas.

St
31-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Test is test seen many run 4-8 amps a week back in the day.

waderow
31-03-2009, 07:11 PM
i would do eod jabs as even with enanthate, this is the best way to keep sides minimized.

i would also do at least 12 weeks.

what about pct and ai, and or serms

ezturbo
31-03-2009, 11:15 PM
750mg sust a week. Loved that part of my cycle, when I pumped I had the grossiest veins popping outta my neck, chest, arms. But yeah, as far as I can tell, test is test is test. Even though it was only sust, I was pinning 250mg eod, kept jabbing reallllll smooth and simple.

theboss
01-04-2009, 09:04 AM
i have used Sust EOD a few times..its great..the only thing i find with Sust is I tend to get the 'flu' more than with C or E

Keeny
01-04-2009, 10:54 PM
Hey I've used sustanon 250 in a cycle is great works perfect with Dianable also proteins.

**Edited by MuSuLPhReAk**

MuSuLPhReAk
01-04-2009, 10:58 PM
Hi Keeny. Welcome to CBB. I encourage you to read the rules of the board so you don't get off on the wrong foot here. Rules of CBB (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6248)

BigDane
01-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Sust on its own is great. Ran it a while back 500mg/week for 12 weeks.

I found it made me limp around like a gimp for days though after pinning it.

Stuff sure worked though. Inject twice a week minimum EOD is best.

Monka
01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
I've seen a dude get on 25lbs with 1cc weekly, and thats trues... totaly wouldnt' have belvied if didnt' see