a couple prep pics,11.5 weeks out

[ironwill]

a couple of pics.....235 lbs, gotta get up on my cardio more from here on in...

[ironwill]

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[ironwill]

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[#8]

nice delts dude. solid bi's as well. atta boy.

[ironwill]

4 i will take my next set with better lighting, i just woke up and took these with a flash, i have quite a bit of vascularity, ah well, next time...

[#8]

how tall are you dude?

[ironwill]

6 foot....

[natenator]

6 foot....
being tall for BB''ing sucks eh? lol

[#8]

thats a full frame for a 6' dude for sure. im 6'1 and i know how painful it is to fill out the arms, and legs.....oh well, being tall is awesome! sorry dave.

[bigpapapump2016]

Being tall is harder to get big biceps and such, but when you make it happen its way better then being short and jacked.

[ironwill]

being tall for BB''ing sucks eh? lol

it is harder and takes more time...Another couple of yrs and i should be able to fill everything out....My plan is and always has been to get good to do well in masters, i never started serious until i was 34....so, a few more yrs and ill be 40, and hopefully be a bigger, better me...I want to get some contests happening to see if i even have what it takes at all...I may look like a scrawny bean-pole and just take up croquet, or hoseshoes...

[canadianmuscle0803]

im looking at your avatar and now im looking at these pics, what changes you have made because in all honesty it looks like you really lost muscle on your back bro..

your stats are good, but for some reason it seems you still need to add quite a bit more size for your frame and by the looks of things you have much more room to grow which is good, this is constructive criticism, not meant to be rude in the least..

you also really need to bring your legs up quite a bit, your strong points are definitely your delts and arms judging from the real double bicep..

[ironwill]

im looking at your avatar and now im looking at these pics, what changes you have made because in all honesty it looks like you really lost muscle on your back bro..
i appreciate the honesty and agree, i may lose a tonne more as well...who knows, i look good at 250 plus, in my avi pic, then i get 230s and look scrawny....but im to fat for BBing at 250-260...lol..I am doing carb cycling as in my journal, 4 low days and 1 high day...repeat, 4 cardio sessions at 40 mins each....Also no excuse but lighting makes a huge difference, and this was in a flash and shitty camera, i do look a lot different in person, veiny and more cut and splits, here im washed out etc...im going to do better pics next time with help...or maybe im just going to have to get into powerlifting or something..

[canadianmuscle0803]

i appreciate the honesty and agree, i may lose a tonne more as well...who knows, i look good at 250 plus, in my avi pic, then i get 230s and look scrawny....but im to fat for BBing at 250-260...lol..I am doing carb cycling as in my journal, 4 low days and 1 high day...repeat, 4 cardio sessions at 40 mins each....Also no excuse but lighting makes a huge difference, and this was in a flash and shitty camera, i do look a lot different in person, veiny and more cut and splits, here im washed out etc...im going to do better pics next time with help...or maybe im just going to have to get into powerlifting or something..

no no, dont get me wrong, you look good, but it seems that something along the way while you diet you are loosing too much muscle, are you possibly taking T3? what does your current cycle look like including food.. cheers.

[ironwill]

I havent added t3 yet....and im worried to add it..lol..I think the biggest change i made was straying away from dc trng, im going lightr now and 6 days a week trng....I am thinking of doing 2 on 1 off again...and going heavier...other than that ive just cut my carbs out to 170 grams on lower days, and 250 on a higher day....1 shake/day and all solid foods, oats/rice for carbs, and chicken meals x 4 and 1 steak meal/day....no fat burners or clen etc...gh @ 3ius 5 days per week, 3 days on, 1 day off, then 2 days gh and 1 off, 15 ius /week
my cycle is test enanthate at 500 mgs/wk and just added masteron at 300 mgs week and 30 mgs of var/day, just this week..

[canadianmuscle0803]

I havent added t3 yet....and im worried to add it..lol..I think the biggest change i made was straying away from dc trng, im going lightr now and 6 days a week trng....I am thinking of doing 2 on 1 off again...and going heavier...other than that ive just cut my carbs out to 170 grams on lower days, and 250 on a higher day....1 shake/day and all solid foods, oats/rice for carbs, and chicken meals x 4 and 1 steak meal/day....no fat burners or clen etc...

I think your dieting down quite well, no need to add T3 in the mix unless your running GH and Tren, but i would only add 25mcgs max, your diet seems quite good, maybe keep your carbs to 250grams/day?? 50/50 approach?

[canadianmuscle0803]

k i just seen your cycle listed, if you can take GH everyday, no need to take time off GH unless you are limited to a certain amount, cut out GH totally 2 weeks out.. i would add tren in your cycle 100mg/EOD, just my .2cent. also your better off to run 50mg of winstrol/day vs 30mg/var/day, 30mg of var for a guy your size wont do much if anything at all..

[ironwill]

I think your dieting down quite well, no need to add T3 in the mix unless your running GH and Tren, but i would only add 25mcgs max, your diet seems quite good, maybe keep your carbs to 250grams/day?? 50/50 approach?sorry i edited and added my gh and aas protocol as well....

[natenator]

IW is Phil doing your prep and supplementation? If so, I suggest not allowing others to offer advice on diet or supplementation. It's not healthy for you mentally. Am sure you know this want to point it out.

[ironwill]

k i just seen your cycle listed, if you can take GH everyday, no need to take time off GH unless you are limited to a certain amount, cut out GH totally 2 weeks out.. i would add tren in your cycle 100mg/EOD, just my .2cent. also your better off to run 50mg of winstrol/day vs 30mg/var/day, 30mg of var for a guy your size wont do much if anything at all..should i add winny, this far out, i was going to add it in my last 6 weeks....Tren and i dont dee eye to eye, i am in a mgmnt role and i dont totally think straight on it and my aggression is very hard for me to deal with and feel it would be a bad thing from past experience, although i loved the results.....

[canadianmuscle0803]

my bad, if someone is doing your prep already dont listen to me..

[natenator]

my bad, if someone is doing your prep already dont listen to me..
lol! offering it and lisening to it is one thing. We all like to give advice which is good and nice to hear but I know from my own experience that I have to not listen to it when I am in prep. Too many cooks in the kitchen and I start to question my own program that was setup specifically for me.

[ironwill]

thanks nate, i appreciate the input....I am doing my own supplementation ,as far as aas and im using a local guy to do my diet and help me with posing practice and cardio advice...I used Hernon for my offseason and first time i was going to compete but moved provinces, and his diet was the same as the local guy im using so i finished my yr with hernon that i pd for and now i wanted a guy to see me all the time in person ....:)

So it appears my diet seems good, and i trust the guy im using, its good to get feedback as well....
I am doing my own aas regiment and i know what to use to get big and strong etc, but i have never dieted down before and im at my smallest since my 20s...lol...i can use help if it is available if im doing something wrong, im all ears...i am very new at this whole thing...a lot different than being big and benching and squatting heavy etc....
PLS HELP....lol

As far as my supplementation and trng, he said just keep doing what you are doing...
Now would it be wise to add in winny this far out, should i up my test dose??

[canadianmuscle0803]

thanks nate, i appreciate the input....I am doing my own supplementation ,as far as aas and im using a local guy to do my diet and help me with posing practice and cardio advice...I used Hernon for my offseason and first time i was going to compete but moved provinces, and his diet was the same as the local guy im using so i finished my yr with hernon that i pd for and now i wanted a guy to see me all the time in person ....:)

So it appears my diet seems good, and i trust the guy im using, its good to get feedback as well....
I am doing my own aas regiment and i know what to use to get big and strong etc, but i have never dieted down before and im at my smallest since my 20s...lol...i can use help if it is available if im doing something wrong, im all ears...i am very new at this whole thing...a lot different than being big and benching and squatting heavy etc....
PLS HELP....lol

your cycle needs help bro.. please list out your full aas plan for the next 11 weeks, for a guy your size you need to up your test to about 750-1gram, masteron is a good addition but 300mg/week seems rather low, are you taking any anti-estrogen's, if not i recommend 1mg arimidex everyday, last 4 weeks take letro daily.. if you want my advice im willing to give it out fully, i know a few things about contest prep cycles if your interested but you have to be willing to take some more if you want to stop loosing size.

[canadianmuscle0803]

what products can you get your hands on right now, i would strongly suggest a change in your cycle. please read post above. adding winny in now is a good idea or you can wait until your 8 weeks out, also increase test dose for sure.

[ironwill]

Ok right now i am taking 500 mgs of test a week, split in 3 doses, m, w ,f
masteron at 300 mgs 100 mgs added into my test syringe,
30 mgs of anavar/day
.25 letrozole/day just added this week
3 ius gh 5 days per week, that is total...
the only thing i was going to change was adding winny last 6 weeks....
I appreciate the help...
I have lots of enanth, winny, var, masteron, adex, nolva on hand...I can get whatever i need, if i need more than these compounds..
I havent taken much more than this, but if i need to add in more for cutting than i need to revamp things, im all ears..Hernon always said i was using to little as well.....

i am taking in approx 2900 calories per day.....

[canadianmuscle0803]

Ok right now i am taking 500 mgs of test a week, split in 3 doses, m, w ,f
masteron at 300 mgs 100 mgs added into my test syringe,
30 mgs of anavar/day
.25 letrozole/day just added this week
3 ius gh 5 days per week, that is total...
the only thing i was going to change was adding winny last 6 weeks....
I appreciate the help...
I have lots of enanth, winny, var, masteron, adex, nolva on hand...I can get whatever i need, if i need more than these compounds..
I havent taken much more than this, but if i need to add in more for cutting than i need to revamp things, im all ears..Hernon always said i was using to little as well.....

up the test, can you switch to prop??? 200mg EOD is good
if you have more var then up the dose to at least 50mg/day or like i said just switch this for 50mg winny a day.. GH is good, just stop 2 weeks out or just do 1-2iu/day to keep water weight down, letro dose is good but it can be increased.. masteron 400mg/week is good, no need for nolva, adding a ECA stack or some clen would also be beneficial to get those last few pounds off when it starts to get real tough for you.. this is what i would like you to do..

200mg prop EOD or 1,000mg TestE/week
400mg masteron/week, 100mg EOD will do fine here as well
50mg winstrol/day
i would like to see you on tren as its probably the best contest drug there is but if you have that many issues with it then stay away..

what do your final 4 weeks of prep look like? any halo? how about diuretics for the show, do you have this planned out?

[ironwill]

No plan for last 4 weeks, i think my trnr has a diuretic schedule for the last little bit....I believe we are going to try a shitload type of approach for the last week, 3 or 4 days prior to show a load up of a whack of food and then very low carbs up until contest time, ar you familiar with skiploading, or shitloading???
what else do i need to plan for last 4 weeks??

[canadianmuscle0803]

No plan for last 4 weeks, i think my trnr has a diuretic schedule for the last little bit....I believe we are going to try a shitload type of approach for the last week, 3 or 4 days prior to show a load up of a whack of food and then very low carbs up until contest time, ar you familiar with skiploading, or shitloading???
what else do i need to plan for last 4 weeks??

which kind of diuretics does he have you running, because if you take something harsh it might flatten you out way too much, i suggest aldactone because its potassium sparing, carbloading is tricky, its different for everyone, do you have the plan written out?

[ironwill]

it is alsactone and he said the exact same thing about other diuretics, i believe lasix is harsh he said....I dont have it written out yet as he sees me a few times a week and said we will revamp at 8 weeks out....
we pose next sunday so ill take more pics then as i have never posed before and he has good light in his gym...
I really appreciate the help a tonne.....
thanks for the feedback guys, great reality check.....

[St]

Looking good bro,just keep at the cardio.

[O-Train]

Pics arn't something to worry about too much. Lighting plays a big role like you mentioned. Dieting down (especially the first time) is a very humbling experience. Just be glad you arn't cutting down to 155 like I did the first time lol. It's good that you have so much time to dial everything in. Will make life a whole lot less stressful.

Definitely stay away from Lasix, it isn't potassium sparing. Wouldn't want to cramp up and die.

Keep us posted.

[fit226]

CM seems to know his stuff from what i read. I know we have had our differences in the past but I would suggest following what he is suggesting. When i got ready all i used was prop 200mg/day, winni 50mg and worked up to 100mg/day, Nolva and Clen. The last week and a half was only orals (winni, anavar, clen and Nolva) as you don't run the risk of bad injection spots. No need to get fancy with the GH and T3 bro at this level. If you diet correctly and do your morning and evening cardio you'll be fine. I honestly think GH is a waste unless you are doing 8 IU's - 10 IU's a day and that can get quite pricey and at that amount good luck holding on to things as numb hands were so bothersome to me I stopped altogether. I think too many people play around with T3 too much not knowing the long term effects..not worth it for a small local bodybuilding show IMO..

good luck!

[gustavo77]

You are leaning out nicely bro...great progress...

[countrychic]

These pics don't do IW justice. He is definately not used to the dieting down process which mess's with his head quite a bit, it is his first comp so of course it's a road not known. His vascularity is crazy and he is doing a fantastic job.

Keep at it babe you are making amazing progress :)

[CallmeB]

Wow Dude your lookin Waaaaaaaaaaay Leaner then last time I saw you.. Nice work.. I think your gona do Awesome... If you wana see what your up against come lift at Golds one day.. there is a buddy there Doing Heavy weight.. You guys are about neck and neck right now! Although I think you deffinitly have some mass on him..
Nice work dude!

[ironwill]

Thanks CC and callmeb....i appreciate it....I am very dissappointed byn these pics, so i will now turn up the volume a notch or 2, nice reality check....
next ones will be much better...i promise..
Hey B, hope to see you next sunday half nude and posing.......
Take care...

[CallmeB]

Yupp you sure will! do you know what time at? and what we should be wearing? shorts? speedo's hahaha??
That actually my bday! Posing party! HAHAHAH...

[flapjack]

Thanks CC and callmeb....i appreciate it....I am very dissappointed byn these pics, so i will now turn up the volume a notch or 2, nice reality check....
next ones will be much better...i promise..
Hey B, hope to see you next sunday half nude and posing.......
Take care...


You will always be you own worst critic...you look great, keep it up and don't get discouraged. I was dissapointed with my pics too, but I've gotten good feedback, so it definatley helps to have others look at them. It keeps me motivated.

[HoliTheCat]

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I'd hit it. 2x.

[ironwill]

I just want to say i appreciate the good, honest feedback, that is what makes this a great sport if you listen with an open mind...i appreciate it all...
Funny how life is....
i am always surprised on the boards, you have folks you have never met and they give you great advice and some good green karma and private messages that help when you feel at your lowest, as i did after my pics, but it fires you up and you want to do so much better, i am feeling a tonne better now and am recharged once again....

Unfortunately on the other hand:
you have folks you think are your friends from the board, even in real life and a guy bares himself and they dont even step up to encourage you in the least when you are down....shows you what is what when you feel your lowest, always amazed at who steps up to help you out, i will always remember these days...the good and bad, karma ...I am always one to encourage at all times, its important to those that require it, even the toughest hombres need a pick up sometime
So im not on chlomid or anything, but i am very appreciative, and you helped a fella out in a big way....
Thanks folks....:ht

[Born2Juice4Ever]

I would have liked your quads a little thicker, only because it would have given you more meat to cut with...but where you are at now has open doors of potentials!!
YOU are going to destroy the stage, the minute you walk onto it!!

Go hard big boy!!!


B2J

[ironwill]

thanks b2j,,,,i have only been working my legs in the past 8 months really, and easy on them at that, i fractured my L-5 a couple of yrs ago, and i was in real bad pain and lower body numbness, they were by far my best and strongest BP prior, i will get them back they have grown a tonne in the past few months, i was a light bulb for awhile, thick top, scrawny bottom...lol...
Peace broski

[HoliTheCat]

**** the haters bro. I think you look great and are currently taking part in something that so few people have the courage to do. Get up on stage in front of thousands nearly naked and have them judge you against others. I have all the respect in the world for anyone who actually goes through with it.

A few years back (like 5) I was dieting to do the first (I believe first) Sandra Whickam (sp?) Classic. I couldn't do it. I got 12 weeks out, or 8 weeks out or something and I knew that at that point in my life I didn't have the discipline or dedication to go through with it. I moved away. lol.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

**** the haters bro. I think you look great and are currently taking part in something that so few people have the courage to do. Get up on stage in front of thousands nearly naked and have them judge you against others. I have all the respect in the world for anyone who actually goes through with it.

A few years back (like 5) I was dieting to do the first (I believe first) Sandra Whickam (sp?) Classic. I couldn't do it. I got 12 weeks out, or 8 weeks out or something and I knew that at that point in my life I didn't have the discipline or dedication to go through with it. I moved away. lol.


misread and misunderstood...shit happens=---apologies

[natenator]

funny how this kid chooses to make my comment:hater

For your info you little F*****, IronW and I chat all the time...constructive critiscm is always appreciated when delivered right.
The only way people know where or on what areas they may lag or need improvement of such, is by advising. Criticism is subjective to personal opinion, which I in my right, gave to him.


I am just tired of your shit now that you came to this site.



B2J
what are you reading? Pull your head outta your ass.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

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B2J

[natenator]

He posted calling me a hater---really?

I am far from a hater...you know that!!!


B2J
he wasn't calling you a hater! He was referring to IW's post (#42)

[HoliTheCat]

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B2J

I wish I knew what shit you were tired of since I joined this board...

I'm not going to tear your illiterate ass a new hole as this is IW's progress thread and it should be used for just that.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Ok cool, then don't worry about it.

You're correct this thread belongs to IW and his training progress...we will keep it in such manner.



B2J

[HoliTheCat]

he wasn't calling you a hater! He was referring to IW's post (#42)

This is correct. I hadn't even read the previous posts. I was reading IW's updates and scoping his hot ass pics. lol.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

This is correct. I hadn't even read the previous posts. I was reading IW's updates and scoping his hot ass pics. lol.

This is why I posted an apology shortly after, and the copy paste to my both of my comments need to be edited out as per request.

For a minute<I thought you were coming down on me for giving him my personal opinion.

I will PM you in a bit, let's chat :)

You have been around a while...well not longer than me of course....I posted an apology and it will stay there/end there.



B2J

[ironwill]

Its ok duders...we are a passionate group, all good...If we werent passionate we would be doing something else....
I have gone back to dc trng, 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off...schedule..Cardio 4-5 times per week at 40 mins each session...I will do better like this, i am going to try and get my strength up even though it is hard right now...
I have upped my dose..lol..
i have this week started enanthate @ 750 mgs/wk, and in 2 weeks ill bump it over to 200 mgs prop eod, 400 mgs of masteron per week and 40 mgs of var per day...
i will do this and up my var to 60 mgs in 2 weeks as well....
I will add in winny the last 6-8 weeks...gh @ 3ius ed, no more 2 days off per week...
letro at a bit less than.25 mgs per day, proviron @ 25 mgs per day as well..
things are picking up....no fat burners yet...
i have t-3 on hand but not until later on, and i have clen, helios etc for 8 weeks out....
Thanks guys, let me know how you feel about this new regiment...

[HoliTheCat]

Its ok duders...we are a passionate group, all good...If we werent passionate we would be doing something else....
I have gone back to dc trng, 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off...schedule..Cardio 4-5 times per week at 40 mins each session...I will do better like this, i am going to try and get my strength up even though it is hard right now...
I have upped my dose..lol..
i have this week started enanthate @ 750 mgs/wk, and in 2 weeks ill bump it over to 200 mgs prop eod, 400 mgs of masteron per week and 40 mgs of var per day...
i will do this and up my var to 60 mgs in 2 weeks as well....
I will add in winny the last 6-8 weeks...gh @ 3ius ed, no more 2 days off per week...
letro at a bit less than.25 mgs per day, proviron @ 25 mgs per day as well..
things are picking up....no fat burners yet...
i have t-3 on hand but not until later on, and i have clen, helios etc for 8 weeks out....
Thanks guys, let me know how you feel about this new regiment...

Why only 3ius of GH?

[ironwill]

I have read that 2-4 ius is great for fatloss....what would you recommend??Ive thought about going up to 5 , would it make a difference over the next 11 weeks??
In offseason i will try and go up to 6-8 ius for an extra boost for my old ass...

[natenator]

3-4IU is perfect.

[HoliTheCat]

I have read that 2-4 ius is great for fatloss....what would you recommend??Ive thought about going up to 5 , would it make a difference over the next 11 weeks??
In offseason i will try and go up to 6-8 ius for an extra boost for my old ass...

I have read the same thing. I was just thinking I read the same thing back when Jins were phenoms. I used 2 ius then. I use 4 now. But I agree with Nate (if it is good GH you are right on track).

If you are getting results why add more :D

And FYI - I will have zero recommendations for you ever during your contest prep, or offseason for that matter as you are levels ahead of me bro. Much more qualified people then me to give advice to a monster like you lol. I was just curious is all.

[flapjack]

Hey Will, we're now 8 1/2 weeks out...how's the progress?

[JonnyO]

Its ok duders...we are a passionate group, all good...If we werent passionate we would be doing something else....
I have gone back to dc trng, 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off...schedule..Cardio 4-5 times per week at 40 mins each session...I will do better like this, i am going to try and get my strength up even though it is hard right now...
I have upped my dose..lol..
i have this week started enanthate @ 750 mgs/wk, and in 2 weeks ill bump it over to 200 mgs prop eod, 400 mgs of masteron per week and 40 mgs of var per day...
i will do this and up my var to 60 mgs in 2 weeks as well....
I will add in winny the last 6-8 weeks...gh @ 3ius ed, no more 2 days off per week...
letro at a bit less than.25 mgs per day, proviron @ 25 mgs per day as well..
things are picking up....no fat burners yet...
i have t-3 on hand but not until later on, and i have clen, helios etc for 8 weeks out....
Thanks guys, let me know how you feel about this new regiment...

Im glad to see you changed your training as Im sure this played a big part to looking like you may have lost some size/fullness. My motto is stick with what got you there. You may have to drop the RP's about 4-6 weeks out because that will be too taxing on your CNS and recovery when doing lots of cardio and lower cals will be impossible. I'd hit the widow makers hard for back and quads. Keep deadlifting for sure!

As for the cycle it looks good. I wait until 8 weeks out to really kick up the fat burning up a notch, thats when I'd begin using Prop, tren. I'd keep the Var in the entire time as it helps with visceral fat as well as help retain muscle in a low cal environment. You could add in Arim or Aromasin 6-8 weeks out thats up to you. I like to start Masteron and Winny 6 weeks out with Proviron. GH is usually run all the way thru, depending on condition. If you feel you are dropping too fast for whatever reason Anadrol or Suspension for 5-7 days will help out a bit.

As for diuretics I prefer Dyazide over Aldactone for the reasons I explained how Aldactone works in that Diuretic thread someone started. Your a bigger guy and may take longer to fill out when carb loading and this may make Aldactone a poor choice...but then again this depends on how you load. For skiploading it may work because you load earlier. But then again if things are done right and the load is done right you may not even need diuretics. Just lose all your bodyfat.

So many things and variables here its hard to stick to a single game plan or outline as things change daily but these are my suggestions. Need any more help feel free to ask or PM me bro.

Best of luck!

[ironwill]

Thanks and things are going well so far...I appreciate the post johnnyo....I am doing pretty much exactly that..Im adding fatburners this wknd....some clen and lipoex...Im still heavy 235ish, but getting less fat..More vascularity ...my trainer was saying he got goosebumps watching them the other day...i think thats good...lol..
Im adding winny at 6 weeks out, var all the way through, i added masteron and switched to prop instead of enanthate today, 200 mgs eod from here on in..
Ill keep up on my log i have posted from here on out...
Its getting tougher now....for sure, way more tired, just want to train, sleep and eat....Im thinking the clen and lipoex will help in that regard...

[JonnyO]

Good stuff bro. I know Clen burns me out big time have fun with it, lol.

[rated_rko]

i hate being 6'1

[ironwill]

Good stuff bro. I know Clen burns me out big time have fun with it, lol.
oh really, i always thought it was a stimulant....ah well, i guess ill start up the caffeine express..I dont drink coffe, but i have caffeine pills..

[AlladdinSane]

Good shit, Willy! ;)

Very, very impressive. I like that you're still strong... it makes me happy inside. :)

[ironwill]

Thanks, but i sure dont feel impressive...im low end of 230s now.....I am gonna pop up some new pics to drown these ones out...lol....
Im having one of those low days again...damn i didnt realize it was so crazy when i started out...lol..
I have 3 good days per week, the rest suck balls...as far as feeling good and energetic and optimistic type stuff..Then a few days are like wtf am i doing this for...seriously...I never have an answer for that question...I guess its just something us dumasses do...in one form or other...either trying to break a pr, or get huge, or get lean , torture ourselves in way, shape or form..etc., etc...always something., maybe i should be a S and M guy, id look good with a ball gag and hood i think..
i should channel this energy into something that makes money...Id be rich i tell ya..

[AlbertaBeef]

You do it because it's your sport and you're competitve and you want to win or kick as many asses in the sport as you can....it's a guy thing :hu

[AlladdinSane]

Thanks, but i sure dont feel impressive...im low end of 230s now.....I am gonna pop up some new pics to drown these ones out...lol....
Im having one of those low days again...damn i didnt realize it was so crazy when i started out...lol..
I have 3 good days per week, the rest suck balls...as far as feeling good and energetic and optimistic type stuff..Then a few days are like wtf am i doing this for...seriously...I never have an answer for that question...I guess its just something us dumasses do...in one form or other...either trying to break a pr, or get huge, or get lean , torture ourselves in way, shape or form..etc., etc...always something., maybe i should be a S and M guy, id look good with a ball gag and hood i think..
i should channel this energy into something that makes money...Id be rich i tell ya..

I feel ya on the "low day" thing. Stay the course.

You do this to not be bland. You do this to break away from the pack. You do this because, although it can be done by all, it will only actually be done by few, and be done well by fewer still.

You will do it well and be set apart from the weak.

[69challenger]

You do this to not be bland. You do this to break away from the pack. You do this because, although it can be done by all, it will only actually be done by few, and be done well by fewer still.

You will do it well and be set apart from the weak.

Well put! Hang in there IW, the feeling you will get on stage, when everything comes together, makes it all worth it:)

[SmallieBigs]

Wow Will, I know you've worked long and hard to get where you are, but sometimes we all need a little perspective...

I, and I assume many many others here, would love to someday be where you're at... I know it's about you, and you've put the time and hard work in, and I'm sure the down days suck... damn, I have them and i'm 6 ft. as well, and just tryin' to push past 200 lbs at 12&#37;... I think you look great, and it sounds like your diet, training, and supplementation look great....


Good luck bro, you know we all got ur back here man!

[ironwill]

thanks a tonne,,,i appreciate it ....:greet

[BDH]

Congrats, buddy... no one deserves a big fat trophy on their mantle more than you... I cant wait to see pics of you in gray underwear standing beside it...

[rubarb]

Looking good! right on target keep us all posted!

[ironwill]

updated here.....

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=181021&posted=1#post181021