Shotgun by VPXSports

[HoliTheCat]

Hey bros,

Any of you ever used a product called Shotgun before your workouts?

I just took my first scoop this morning (like 20 minutes ago) because I have a strength/conditioning workout at 10am and I usually like to take something before hand to 'wake me up'.

I used to take Superpump250 but it hurt my stomache like a mofo.

Anyways, today I tried Shotgun and holy shit. It makes my whole body feel like I am on pins or needles. It is like fireants are eating my face right now while I type this out. What a whacked out feeling. I don't feel overly hyper like I would on 2 or 3 scoops of superpump - I just feel like fireants are eating me.

I will report how the workout goes. I took 1 scoop (as per directions) Superpump told me to take 2 - 3 scoops. (and don't get me wrong - that stuff ****s you up real good - got my heart racing - sometimes too much.

Holi out.

[Ritch]

The tingling can be the beta-alanine.

[hyperlite32]

I am curious about this....

[JonnyO]

I use NOShotgun all the time and never get the tingles you describe. But I do get killer pumps and great workouts on it. It's a great product better than SP250, plus it has 20g protein per serving as well from Peptopro in it.

[kloan]

It's the niacin (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5162&highlight=shotgun).

When I first started taking it, I experienced the same feeling. Hot and tingly all over.. especially in my face and arms.

I don't get it as much now. Overall, it's been my favourite pre-workout drink.. Allmax Krush comes in a close 2nd... I've been adding another teaspoon of creatine monohydrate to my drinks before my workouts as well.

What flavour are you guys drinking? Mine's the Berry something... I've heard the Black Cherry tastes like shit.

[L3]

these OTC supplements ****ed my liver harder than 180mgs ED of orals according to my bloodwork

[RightNearDaBeach]

Yes, it's the beta-alanine that causes the tingling. I use NO-Shotgun as it's definitely one of the best pre-workout supps based on price/# of servings, and the ingredients. Plus, it works as it's supposed to with pumps, etc. It even says on the label about the similarity to a niacin flush, but it is beta-alanine and not niacin. Very good product, even if it doesn't provide you with the intense energy rush that some like Super Pump and NO-Xplode might. The ingredients beyond caffeine are in favour of Shotgun. I guess the only "real" problem is if you find you can't handle the tingling, because if you start taking 1/2 a scoop you're not getting full servings of the advertised ingredients.

[#8]

these OTC supplements ****ed my liver harder than 180mgs ED of orals according to my bloodwork

thats messed up? what were you taking 180mg of ED?

[natenator]

how much is this stuff? any cheap places to buy it?

[dZasta0]

great stuff, got about a whole container worth of samples from the arnold expo.. got enough NO samples to last me like 3 month worth of workouts haha.. i'm undecided between shotgun and superpump so i just change it up every other day.. personally, i think nanovapor is the shittiest NO i've tried even with the high ratings it has..

[kloan]

Yes, it's the beta-alanine that causes the tingling. I use NO-Shotgun as it's definitely one of the best pre-workout supps based on price/# of servings, and the ingredients. Plus, it works as it's supposed to with pumps, etc. It even says on the label about the similarity to a niacin flush, but it is beta-alanine and not niacin. Very good product, even if it doesn't provide you with the intense energy rush that some like Super Pump and NO-Xplode might. The ingredients beyond caffeine are in favour of Shotgun. I guess the only "real" problem is if you find you can't handle the tingling, because if you start taking 1/2 a scoop you're not getting full servings of the advertised ingredients.

oh, someone told me it was the niacin... i missed that bit of info on the label.

in any case, it does seem to get less noticeable after time.

[L3]

thats messed up? what were you taking 180mg of ED?

100 winny
40tbol
40 var
8 weeks
ALT was in the 60s PCT

black powder/no shotgun for 2-3 moths, ALT was 159!!!!! ****ing scared the shit out of me

now im in the mid 30s thankss Liv52 :)

seriously guys, go get your bloodwork done.. just cause its OTC doesnt make it safe, ESPECIALLY for prolonged use

[hyperlite32]

^^^ Those are crazy numbers...

[#8]

My liver enzymes were almost 330 on Accutane one time. Plus I spent a week in Banff and got royally RIPPED every night right before I got my bloodwork done. Might have had something to do with it....

[Andre]

I switched over from Shotgun to High Voltage from MVP... I have a ton of free samples if anyone wants to drop by my Pickering gym...

http://www.mvpnutrition.com/HIGHVOLTAGE.html

[L3]

after years of using NO products... i found the following homemade pre workout mix to be 90% as effective for 10% of the price....

16mg ephedrine, crushed up
10g creatine mono
1 heaping tbspn Dextrose

pumps are comparable to NO products (ive used 4 dif ones), the only thing you loose out on is increased vascularity, but that should not be an issue with low bf%

[Ritch]

^^^ You could easily add 3 grams of l-tyrosine with 200mg of caffeine as a minimal base to that. Vinpocetine added with the pre workout meal would increase blood flow to the brain also making other stims more effective. Some DMAE and rosea rhodiola could work as well. The cost still being very inexpensive. But shot gun is fairly cheap at about $2 per serving. It`s about the same price of a cup of coffee.

[countrychic]

so how was the workout on this stuff?

[natenator]

hmmm Popeye's doesn't carry this stuff

[Ritch]

so how was the workout on this stuff?

I can honestly say I never had a bad workout on it.

[countrychic]

how much sugar and carbs?

[L3]

^^^ You could easily add 3 grams of l-tyrosine with 200mg of caffeine as a minimal base to that. Vinpocetine added with the pre workout meal would increase blood flow to the brain also making other stims more effective. Some DMAE and rosea rhodiola could work as well. The cost still being very inexpensive. But shot gun is fairly cheap at about $2 per serving. It`s about the same price of a cup of coffee.

yep lets not forget the Argenine Alpha Keto Glutarate, some CoQ10 for the heart, vit C and E for antioxidant, niacin for the vascularity, taurine for increased delivery to cells, creatine EE for a complex time delivery matrix...

LOL you see what im getting at

[Ritch]

yep lets not forget the Argenine Alpha Keto Glutarate, some CoQ10 for the heart, vit C and E for antioxidant, niacin for the vascularity, taurine for increased delivery to cells, creatine EE for a complex time delivery matrix...

LOL you see what im getting at

Actually I do. What I just said reminds me of a reply someone might get if someone was to ask, how would a test only cycle work. Then the replies follow, "take deca with it, dball to kickstart and some IGF-1 for extra synergy...

[physique]

hmmm Popeye's doesn't carry this stuff

i carry it sir.

[Blue Hefner]

how much sugar and carbs?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s157/CEO42/shotgun_watermelon.jpg

[HoliTheCat]

how much sugar and carbs?

My workout was great. It was actually a combat conditioning class (6 guys). My heart rate was up in the 180's for a decent portion of the class. Only thing that was a bit messed was my face and arms were hot and tingly. Got used to it though and once I started to sweat it wasn't that big of a deal.

I would recommend it - but not for everyday use.

[Ritch]

My workout was great. It was actually a combat conditioning class (6 guys). My heart rate was up in the 180's for a decent portion of the class. Only thing that was a bit messed was my face and arms were hot and tingly. Got used to it though and once I started to sweat it wasn't that big of a deal.

I would recommend it - but not for everyday use.

Your body will get used to it, at one point I even added a little clen (20-40mcg) some extra caffeine (200mg) and 8-16 mg of ephedrine with it. Was also adding extra CEE and arginine ethyl ester to it to make my own rocket fuel. Even added some BCAA in it about 10 grams and would sip 10-20 during the workout and would dose another 10-20 grams after the workout. Got expensive though. I also added extra l-tyrosine to it!

[MuscleManCan]

try the isatori h plus blocker - seems to work well.

support my buddies new ebay store! cheap supplements for canadians! not launched yet but products available for purchase!

[hyperlite32]

No one go to this pricks site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

He is spamming.


BAN this ****er!