competitors

[bigdaddydrew123]

how many competitors are on here, any training for shows now if so when & what shows. im training for nb show on nov 10th about 8 weeks to go

[Mr.Freeze]

Got pics??

[bigdaddydrew123]

not yet, dont have digital , hope to get some taken soon, when im closer to show. have a couple from 3 years ago how do i post them

[Mr.Freeze]

the pics you have is on your PC or on a sheet?

[bigdaddydrew123]

the pics you have is on your PC or on a sheet?
on pc

[Mr.Freeze]

ok! Post Reply then go at the bottom of your page in (attach Files) and click on MANAGE ATTACHEMENTS then click on BROWSE then go click on yopur pics and Finaly (submit Reply).:)

[trykillthis]

I plan on doing my first show next year. Sandra Wickham Fall classic 08. Let the bulking begin.

[bottleneckblooz]

how many competitors are on here, any training for shows now if so when & what shows. im training for nb show on nov 10th about 8 weeks to go

So you're from the east coast then? I'm from NB as well. What show are you training for in NB?

[bigdaddydrew123]

So you're from the east coast then? I'm from NB as well. What show are you training for in NB?
new brunswicks, third time doin it. won lt weight last times . this time im a masters

[bigdaddydrew123]

try this see if it works these are me 3 years ago as a light weight im on the far right in the group photo. these are gary bartlet pics so i dont get sued. he added caption on the second pic . i dont really like that pic but good shot of bi

[trykillthis]

That is a hell of a peak!!

[Mr.Freeze]

Wow nice bicep!:)

[MIAGIONJUS]

good work bro... that bicep is awesome!!

[bigdaddydrew123]

that was clean in that show. never did aas for a show. this time i am. so far im holding muscle alot better, be a struggle to make middle this time . i will post pics from next show.

[Mr.Freeze]

Keep up the good work!

[St]

Hey great peak.

[mcgee]

good pics, keep us updated on show

[bigdaddydrew123]

approaching 7 weeks now , gonna switch enanthate for prop, did 75 prop today will do last en on sun then do prop eod at 75 also doin 75 eod tren 50 ed winnie tabs, will drop prop about 4 to 3.5 weeks out just to make sure water is not an issue. will post pics from show or sooner if i get into digital cam by then, see yas

[tephlon]

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[bigdaddydrew123]

approaching 7 weeks now , gonna switch enanthate for prop, did 75 prop today will do last en on sun then do prop eod at 75 also doin 75 eod tren 50 ed winnie tabs, will drop prop about 4 to 3.5 weeks out just to make sure water is not an issue. will post pics from show or sooner if i get into digital cam by then, see yasdown to 192 now added ecas definitekly helped . lost lots of water. have enough tren to do 50 ed gonna do that, plus 50 ed prop til that runs out , abot 2 more weeks. leaves at 3 weeks out with just tren and winnie, wifes gonna be mad. gonna add test back after show then work on normalising things. might try taper. friend took some pics will post when he emails them to me. see ya soon

[SuperQT]

I did 2 figure comps with some of the feedback I was given decided to move to BB I will be my first BB comp in November :)

[bigdaddydrew123]

I did 2 figure comps with some of the feedback I was given decided to move to BB I will be my first BB comp in November :)
where are you competing at

[SuperQT]

where are you competing at

London's November 24th

[bigdaddydrew123]

London's November 24th
complaints from fitnes figure competitors down east is they dont know what judges are looking for , at least with bbing you know basically what judge want, good luck with show

[SuperQT]

complaints from fitnes figure competitors down east is they dont know what judges are looking for , at least with bbing you know basically what judge want, good luck with show

Figure it changes a lot what they are looking for sometimes from show to show. In general though I had to much muscle from lifting heavy for years to do well in figure I would have had to give up all the core lifts that I love and do plyos and bunch of crap that seems like no fun to me. Give me a bar and some 45's I am a very happy girl. In general I found figure to be disappointing all that work to prance around on stage in heals for a few minutes. With BB you at least get a bit more time to shine show off all that hard work and yes it is not as subjective as figure that is for sure.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Figure it changes a lot what they are looking for sometimes from show to show. In general though I had to much muscle from lifting heavy for years to do well in figure I would have had to give up all the core lifts that I love and do plyos and bunch of crap that seems like no fun to me. Give me a bar and some 45's I am a very happy girl. In general I found figure to be disappointing all that work to prance around on stage in heals for a few minutes. With BB you at least get a bit more time to shine show off all that hard work and yes it is not as subjective as figure that is for sure.
you sound like a bber to me, would be boring to do weights with the idea of not adding too much muscle. post your progress when you get into training for show.

[rigidone]

Good luck this weekend BigDaddy!!!! I won't be there, but I'll be rooting for ya.

You're little Cape Breton buddy ;-)

[bigdaddydrew123]

Good luck this weekend BigDaddy!!!! I won't be there, but I'll be rooting for ya.

You're little Cape Breton buddy ;-)right on bro weighed 186 yesterday, def be lean enuff, andys keepin me in line. thanx for thinkin of me apreciated

[bigpapapump2016]

be sure to post some pics up bro

[bigdaddydrew123]

be sure to post some pics up bro
absolutely bro as soon as i getem ill post, you know what us bbers are like,lol, theres some posted in mem pics at 5 weeks out if you havnt seen em

[mikeyrosie000]

Im training for my BB novice show in 2009, Things are coming along great!

[KLM]

Im training for my BB novice show in 2009, Things are coming along great!

Awesome :) Welcome!

[Freebsd1977]

Hey Bigdaddy, great physique man. Can't wait to see you all bulked up now.

[spankmonkey]

Currently 4 weeks out from Alberta's.* Been dieting for 18 weeks, started at 208 and 12%bf.* Currently sitting at 197 and about 4%bf.* Will be dropping down to 176 for weigh-ins to make middle weight and should walk onto stage at about 182ish.Currently taking in 2300 cals 1400 protein, 750 starch carb and 150 fiber carb.* I through in two protein days with 250 starch carbs first thing and then 1750 protein with two granny smiths thrown in fro regularity.Train 4xper week and do cardio 7x per week.I'll try posting a couple of pics from a couple of weeks ago

[bigdaddydrew123]

looks like your in good shape at 4 weeks out.seems like you eat a lot of carbs for precontest, but maybe im reading it wrong.if you make it to middle you shoiuld be ripped .if you want better feedback post up a couple of pics showing legs and back

[IronRobi]

Not to critisize but I think you're a little off on your bf numbers. If you are 197lbs at 4% bf that means you have 7.88lbs of fat... In order for you to hit your goal of 176 that means you'll need to walk on stage at 0% bf (impossible and you'd die) and sacrifice 13lbs of muscle while youre at it.

Drew, the way I read the diet, out of his 2300 daily cals 1400 of them are from protein (350g) and 900 are from carbs (225g) and there is not a single calorie from fat.

I may not be a competitor, but if you're 4 weeks out I will offer some advice. Get your bf tested by a professional so you know exactly where you are at, how much you have to lose, and if you can realistically get down to your goal of 176 without sacrificing too much muscle. Also take a closer look at your diet as I don't know many people who will go 22 weeks without consuming a single gram of fat. You may be taking in more calories than you are estimating.

[spankmonkey]

Not to critisize but I think you're a little off on your bf numbers. If you are 197lbs at 4% bf that means you have 7.88lbs of fat... In order for you to hit your goal of 176 that means you'll need to walk on stage at 0% bf (impossible and you'd die) and sacrifice 13lbs of muscle while youre at it.

Drew, the way I read the diet, out of his 2300 daily cals 1400 of them are from protein (350g) and 900 are from carbs (225g) and there is not a single calorie from fat.

I may not be a competitor, but if you're 4 weeks out I will offer some advice. Get your bf tested by a professional so you know exactly where you are at, how much you have to lose, and if you can realistically get down to your goal of 176 without sacrificing too much muscle. Also take a closer look at your diet as I don't know many people who will go 22 weeks without consuming a single gram of fat. You may be taking in more calories than you are estimating.


Wow, thanks for the flattery.lol
Have you ever dieted for a show? If you are going to come is lean and shredded you will lose muscle in the final stages of your contest prep, there is no way to get all intermuscular fat out without sacrificing some muscle. The key is to hang onto as much muscle as possible and use its energy burning effects until you have to lose it.
As for my carb and protein ratios and fat intake, let me share.

My protein consists of eye of round, egg whites, tuna, chicken, turkey and whey. I supplement my fats with omega 3-6-9. I respond well with this combination and as of today have dropped starch carbs by another 150.

I DO NOT expect to walk on stage at 0 fat. I expect to walk on, if I am lucky between 2-4%, which combined with water drop will make you look very tight.

Last year at one week out I was 198 and I weighed in at 188.5. Here are some pics from that show and I will try to post some of my current condition.

[spankmonkey]

...not doing so good on the uploads. will try again later.

[bigdaddydrew123]

well you got some muscle there so make sure its ripped up, i would think if you make it down to 176 youl be crazy lean but dont sac too much muscle, if your peeled your peeled . you should do well. good luck post up progress and results

[spankmonkey]

well you got some muscle there so make sure its ripped up, i would think if you make it down to 176 youl be crazy lean but dont sac too much muscle, if your peeled your peeled . you should do well. good luck post up progress and results


thanks will keep posting to show and will work on pics

[IronRobi]

Wow, thanks for the flattery.lol
Have you ever dieted for a show? If you are going to come is lean and shredded you will lose muscle in the final stages of your contest prep, there is no way to get all intermuscular fat out without sacrificing some muscle. The key is to hang onto as much muscle as possible and use its energy burning effects until you have to lose it.


Non competitor here. I am around a lot of people who do compete though, and I see what they go through to prepare. I don't have the dedication or the drive to do that. I have the utmost respect for anybody who does compete, yourself included.

When I see a 22 week diet, to me that says the person is looking to slowly lean out and maintain as much muscle mass as possible. To me dropping that much in the final 4 weeks goes against all that effort. As Drew said, if you're peeled you're peeled and you will do incredibly well. Don't sacrifice too much to get to that number. If you do end up in the higher class and you're the most ripped mofo up there, you will still do really well.

[bigdaddydrew123]

8 to 10 lbs drying out on the last week is not uncommon , what does your last week prep look like ie water manip, do you junk load, just curious .

[spankmonkey]

8 to 10 lbs drying out on the last week is not uncommon , what does your last week prep look like ie water manip, do you junk load, just curious .
Not sure this year, will wait and see where I am at. Last year for the last week drank normal then Wed 4L, Thur 3L, Fri 1L (finished by 4pm), weigh-ins at 6pm. After weigh-ins I started fat and carb load in the form of honey, rice cakes and peanutbutter.



Non competitor here. I am around a lot of people who do compete though, and I see what they go through to prepare. I don't have the dedication or the drive to do that. I have the utmost respect for anybody who does compete, yourself included.

When I see a 22 week diet, to me that says the person is looking to slowly lean out and maintain as much muscle mass as possible. To me dropping that much in the final 4 weeks goes against all that effort. As Drew said, if you're peeled you're peeled and you will do incredibly well. Don't sacrifice too much to get to that number. If you do end up in the higher class and you're the most ripped mofo up there, you will still do really well.

Thanks and the last week is about flattening out too. you empty the muscle of as much glycogen as you can which helps with the water flush too. As you approach the magic hour you start slowly loading the muscles back up with carb or fat loads. Some guys will cram pizza, chicken or whatever. I figure this is a competition so I am not a big fan of "junk" loading, prefer to kep it clean and simple.

[wrought]

Last year at one week out I was 198 and I weighed in at 188.5. Here are some pics from that show and I will try to post some of my current condition.

..trying to think if I remember seeing you at any of the shows last year and I'm drawing a blank... didn't go to southerns or Muscle Beach though... anyway, good luck with provincials.

For me, if everything goes well with family stuff I'll be making a run at the OPA's tiers to requalify for nationals in 09. Funfunfun :)

[wuboy25]

Currently 4 weeks out from Alberta's.* Been dieting for 18 weeks, started at 208 and 12%bf.* Currently sitting at 197 and about 4%bf.* Will be dropping down to 176 for weigh-ins to make middle weight and should walk onto stage at about 182ish.Currently taking in 2300 cals 1400 protein, 750 starch carb and 150 fiber carb.* I through in two protein days with 250 starch carbs first thing and then 1750 protein with two granny smiths thrown in fro regularity.Train 4xper week and do cardio 7x per week.I'll try posting a couple of pics from a couple of weeks ago


No offense bro, but you are nowhere near 4% BF.... I don't get to 4% BF on stage and trust me, I'm ripped when I compete...

I'd say ( or guesstimate) that you are around 9-10% now... but you still got time....

BF% is VERY hard to measure accuratly, we can always go by the eye, but it will stay a guesstimation...

keep it up man! you have 4 weeks to get as lean as you can! you have good mass on you, just concentrate on bringing a lean package and you'll do well.

Post some legs, back and overall body pics so we can give you constructive criticism.

[bigdaddydrew123]

bf% is over rated , some can look ripped at higher% others low %, depends on whose using calipers, go mby mirror, if you can see ass muscles clearly odds are your ripped.based on your pics and bw goals you should be a lean mf, but thats based on abs only shot.with your size get ripped to shit and youll be hard to beat. were rottin for ya , we like to see board members win

[IronRobi]

Drew, I just noticed you had a picture of yourself competing 3 years ago at the start of this thread. What a difference from then to on stage in Nov.! Wow! Great work bro.

[spankmonkey]

..trying to think if I remember seeing you at any of the shows last year and I'm drawing a blank... didn't go to southerns or Muscle Beach though... anyway, good luck with provincials.
2006 Southerns 8th place mens Lt. Heavy and 11th place Masters
2007 Muscle Beach 5th place mens Lt. Heavy


No offense bro, but you are nowhere near 4% BF.... I don't get to 4% BF on stage and trust me, I'm ripped when I compete...

I'd say ( or guesstimate) that you are around 9-10% now... but you still got time....

BF% is VERY hard to measure accuratly, we can always go by the eye, but it will stay a guesstimation...
*****You are right and the guesstimate guage I use is around 10% if you can see the top two rectus abdominus and if you can see all the between 4-9%. Yes, very subjective and as most would attest completely useless to discuss.*****

keep it up man! you have 4 weeks to get as lean as you can! you have good mass on you, just concentrate on bringing a lean package and you'll do well.

Post some legs, back and overall body pics so we can give you constructive criticism.

Thanks for the props and here are a couple shots from today.

[Houstonbc]

lookin good man good luck!

[wuboy25]

Awesome symmetry bro! I think you have nice lines, great mass and a very good overall balance, you should do well if you get lean enough. You have great potential.

If you want my opinion, I think you should be a bit leaner by now. However, 4 weeks is still plenty of time to catch up and come up ripped. How much cardio you do? What's your diet look like?
If you don't mind sharing, I am sure we could give you good criticism, because yes Mr.Kupkee : we like to see board members win!!! :)

Also, ss Drew said, bf% is soooo overrated. I hear too many guys claiming that they compete at 2%, 2.5%,3%.....which is of course a big pile of horseshit... How the hell would they know? based on a plastic caliper from GNC???lol...
seriously, the 3 or 7 skinfolds test usually gives results that are nowhere near reality... the only real and accurate meathod is the DXA (Dual energy X-ray absorptiometry) method which is basically a X-ray scan... and I don't think a lot of bodybuilders do that....lol.
Just go by the mirror, bf% is just a number and doesn't mean anything.... the mirror, on the other hand, never lies...

[bigdaddydrew123]

Drew, I just noticed you had a picture of yourself competing 3 years ago at the start of this thread. What a difference from then to on stage in Nov.! Wow! Great work bro.
thanx robi, if your in sj come train at nubods east, were there at 4 as a rule mon to fri

[bigdaddydrew123]

i agree with wuboy on everything, you should however drop a ton of water by dropping your carbs as you posted , you got good symetry and size , dont let some little ripped ****er beat you,i do think if you get to middle you should be close to your mark, out door lighting is harsh tho, but i think your plan is on track.

[spankmonkey]

i agree with wuboy on everything, you should however drop a ton of water by dropping your carbs as you posted , you got good symetry and size , dont let some little ripped ****er beat you,i do think if you get to middle you should be close to your mark, out door lighting is harsh tho, but i think your plan is on track.

Thank you and I hope to be very competitive.

[IronRobi]

Thank you and I hope to be very competitive.

Keep us updated on the progress. As the wu said, we love seeing board members kickin some ass :)

[spankmonkey]

well here we are less than one week to go and 10lbs off my needed 176. Started water manip on Sun, courtesy bigdaddy and carb deplete. Here are some pics, sorry for the bad lighting.

[bigdaddydrew123]

those 10 should come off with water manip/ carb deplete, youll be amazed how much you will sharpen up.make sure you inform us of results of show and post pics from show good luck

[bigdaddydrew123]

cmon guys give this guy some support, you know how hard competition is

[IronRobi]

cmon guys give this guy some support, you know how hard competition is

I'm not even man enough to compete! hahaha

jbear, Good luck brother, we're rooting for you. :flagC

[Rrrrolla]

Good luck JBear, lookin good bro! Give us some pics of he final product when you're all done.

R

[gsxr750]

Look great man all the best!! We're rootin for ya!

[gojimmygo]

Good luck brother. Keep squeezing and posing man you're almost there.

[spankmonkey]

Thanks to all for the support.
One more day to weigh-ins, things are going better than expected water and carb manip are working out fanastic.
Will post results and pictures as soon as I can.

[bigdaddydrew123]

good to hear, once you make weight dont be afraid to eat,just no bev of any sort.let us know your weight, good luck

[Mr Ontario]

Looks like a bit of prop in those biceps :)

[Musclehead]

Keep it up, and don't do anything too drastic to ruin your physique! No major changes. Don't be affraid to eat, but don't be a pig either. Get some pics up whenever you can and GOOD LUCK.....don't forget to have fun!

[spankmonkey]

Well boys the event was a blast and I got blasted outta the water!!At weigh-ins I did not make middle weight and came in to light heavies at 188.* Four guys at light heavy weigh-in were 1-2lbs over and were given 1 hour to drop, unfortunately for me they all made weight.* the day of the show I was the lightest guy and was by far the softest.* I had a 9 point skin fold done 2 days before weigh in and they said 5.6%.Outside of not being as "dry" or as big as the other guys I was still in the best shape I have ever been and I had fun.* Some of the guys in my class have been competing for over a decade and one was even a national level judge!* So over all I do not feel too beat up.I would, however, like to pose a couple of questions to the board;1) How in the hell do these guys get such a dry, full and hard look?2) Should I add weight, continue to drop fat and stay in the lt. Heavy?Your input is appreciated and although i dont have stage shots yet I will include night before.Let the rippin begin!Cheers

[bigdaddydrew123]

first congrats on making it there . how to get dry as a bone.its all diet bro.i was hoping you woulda drooped those few lbs for conditioning sake as well as being in a bettter weight class for you. next time you wanna do it let us knoww at the get go.i think based on earlier posts you had carbs too high too late in the diet. i personally keepem at 100 grams or so, going lower about 4 weeks out. however when your ready to do it again theres lots of help here.

[gojimmygo]

Good job JBear. Hopefully you learned a thing or two about the way your body works so that you keep improving.Congrats.

[spankmonkey]

Thanks for all the encouragement. I think I will be using a coach this year, not sure yet. He has come highly recommended and has been competing at the national level for some time. I meet him on monday and we'll see how it goes.

Again thanks for the solid support:tu

[Musclehead]

It's hard to say how to get dry because everyone's different. First thing though is you have to be lean enough. YOu should be able to experiment 2 weeks out as well with your carb up regime to see how that does and make adjustments too. I wasn't as dry as I wanted either for my show, but it's all a learning experience. If you're shredded though, you don't reallyhave to worry much.

CONGRATS btw! Job well done.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Thanks for all the encouragement. I think I will be using a coach this year, not sure yet. He has come highly recommended and has been competing at the national level for some time. I meet him on monday and we'll see how it goes.

Again thanks for the solid support:tusounds like a good plan , if you r unsure about diet one contest with a good trainer is well worth it, keep us posted

[J Holington]

I'm hoping to compete mid June at the Worldss or at least watch.