View Full Version : Shortchanging... common?
kloan
23-03-2009, 06:32 PM
96 in a 100 bottle of Nolva...
Anyone else see this happening? It's only 4, no big deal.. just seems odd this is the second product that's been shortchanged... maybe someone was asleep at the switch when mine were processed.
it happened to me once, but i was only missing 1. i got 99/100 in a bottle of var once. i know its no big deal, but its not good PR. i miss that var..... :(
good to see I'm not the only one who counts his pills one by one. 4 is a lot though
Mr Ontario
23-03-2009, 07:02 PM
Tight ass :)
96 in a 100 bottle of Nolva...
Anyone else see this happening? It's only 4, no big deal.. just seems odd this is the second product that's been shortchanged... maybe someone was asleep at the switch when mine were processed.
kloan
23-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Tight ass :)
lol, not at all man..
i just like to get what the label says.. ;)
lol, not at all man..
i just like to get what the label says.. ;)
thats what she said....
Mr Ontario
23-03-2009, 07:09 PM
so if you got 4 extra you would not complain? :)
lol, not at all man..
i just like to get what the label says.. ;)
dinosaur
23-03-2009, 07:10 PM
I was going to say that I've never been shortchanged on pills, but then I realized that I've never counted.
hmmm
RagingRandy
23-03-2009, 08:22 PM
I had some empty caps once but my rep made good on them.
I have never counted my caps,better start now.:)
tiramisu
23-03-2009, 08:32 PM
I keep getting extra. Maybe I should complain.
kloan
23-03-2009, 08:42 PM
so if you got 4 extra you would not complain? :)
only reason i counted is because i put both my adex and nolva in vitamin bottles before i headed down here. i looked in the bottle and looked less than i thought it should, i counted to make sure it wasn't the adex (which was 50).
in any case, i dont really care.. the problem i had with the other product was quickly resolved and im grateful for that. just seems kinda odd that another product is again shortchanged. just wanna see if other people see this with their stuff.
yah ive got a few less on old stuff, ive used, havent counted recently though, dont really care haha
hyperlite32
23-03-2009, 10:12 PM
This is why I wouldnt count. It's not like this is regualted.
Better call the Better Buisness Bureu...
spiderman7
23-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I count mine all the time. If I am short I would let them know.If I receive extra I notify them and have offered to return it.
kloan
23-03-2009, 11:20 PM
This is why I wouldnt count. It's not like this is regualted.
Better call the Better Buisness Bureu...
:ji
Kilburn
23-03-2009, 11:32 PM
i nvr count but ya i can imagin that would b annoying. if thy cant count out the proper number of pills who knows what else their fuking up on. could be underdosed etc.
I got 3 extra in my last bottle of A-dex. Just proves that juicers suck at math lol
I would like to add that I have never gotten short changed, or gear that was underdosed, but then I have always used the most reputable of labs.
JonnyO
24-03-2009, 01:01 AM
I got 36 out of 50 once. lmao
Heh.. if they can't count
What chance does the dosage have of being accurate?
Clearly a reflection of quality control.
hyperlite32
24-03-2009, 10:36 AM
Heh.. if they can't count
What chance does the dosage have of being accurate?
Clearly a reflection of quality control.
Good point.
waderow
24-03-2009, 12:19 PM
we pay big $ for roids from what we are meant to believe are "reputable sources".
if i order 50 tabs at 500mcg each, i expect that. not 49.....but 50. Does it matter? Mostly by principle, but yes, it does.
If you are only getting 46, or 48 out of 50.... whats the dose of the cap? even remotely accurate?
Big D
24-03-2009, 12:37 PM
we pay big $ for roids from what we are meant to believe are "reputable sources".
if i order 50 tabs at 500mcg each, i expect that. not 49.....but 50. Does it matter? Mostly by principle, but yes, it does.
If you are only getting 46, or 48 out of 50.... whats the dose of the cap? even remotely accurate?
so true
Mr.Freeze
24-03-2009, 01:57 PM
we pay big $ for roids from what we are meant to believe are "reputable sources".
if i order 50 tabs at 500mcg each, i expect that. not 49.....but 50. Does it matter? Mostly by principle, but yes, it does.
If you are only getting 46, or 48 out of 50.... whats the dose of the cap? even remotely accurate?
+1000 :a+
ironwill
24-03-2009, 01:59 PM
I would like to add that I have never gotten short changed, or gear that was underdosed, but then I have always used the most reputable of labs.
how do you know for sure, i believe the same thing, but one is never certain with UG...unless you have a test facility...just for the sake of debate..
Born2Juice4Ever
24-03-2009, 02:09 PM
I got 36 out of 50 once. lmao
I have not seen or read page 3 so far...but if you got 36 of 50, THIS Is what I consider a substancial differencial.--and I would talk to the rep or lab.
I have been short changed over the years also...a bottle here, an amp there...but I've had the shortage rectified.
We must remember that these are humans counting the tabs or pills, not machines.
With all that to say, I also expect and want accuracy...if the person asks for 100. I send 100 and not 98.50...do I make any sense.?
I can't say that I ever counted my stuff however:) call me crazy.
B2J
AlbertaBeef
24-03-2009, 02:33 PM
I count tabs and always bang on or over a couple. I have rec'd under filled amps and just recently under filled 20ml viles that were only about 16 or 17mls.
IronRobi
24-03-2009, 03:08 PM
I've always received extra. Either a few extra tabs, or an couple extra amps, even gotten a few bonus vials. In this game if you screw somebody over, you lose business. By treating them good, they'll come back.
BigDane
24-03-2009, 03:53 PM
On the few times I've been short changed my source has always made it right with no questions asked. Thats why I keep going back.
Mistakes do happen and as long as they're dealt with its fine by me.
Dosing on the other hand is a totally different ball game.
Gettin'r'round
24-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Not to excuse this but...
Back in the day using European sources I would count myself lucky to get 3/3packages. If I lost one, 33% increase in costs. Or how about fake gear? Oh and everything was in 69c US DOLLARS. Everything is relative.
God I love being the contrarian.
giannos
24-03-2009, 06:28 PM
Mistakes happen... contact your rep and advise them.
A) They can rectify the problem on their end to make sure it doesnt happen again.
B) They will make things right. I don't know too many labs that would lose a customer over 4 tabs.
I once got 44 instead of 100 and 8 of them were crushed....lol. It was an international source. I talked to the rep, advised of the probelm and was sent out 200 tabs for free and given multiple apologies...
physique
24-03-2009, 06:56 PM
if u guys think labs count this shit into bottles. your nuts.
if they are making mass amounts i would bet they weigh them. and when u do that yes there will be times when they are off or slightly over.
christ can u imagine counting too 100, 1000times for 1 item??? i cant see it
kloan
24-03-2009, 08:08 PM
^^
i imagine the logical way to fill bottles with set amounts is to first use something to measure that you know holds 50 or 100 pills, then transfer to the bottles... these things are tiny, so i can see using this method that it could be short a couple..
all im sayin is thats two products now that have been underfilled. im not about to complain over 4 pills, i could care less about them.. however, id like to feel assured that these are rarities and i just had a bit of bad luck. i plan on continuing my business with this lab, and im sure i'll be happy with the results.
just curious to see if it happens often or if its just me and my luck.
natenator
24-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Why don't people contact their rep/source first before posting this on an open board?
If there were past issues that were resolved in a proper manner - Why would you not just take those steps again to get the issue dealt with?
And for those who said "oh I wonder what else is wrong if the pill count is off?" Get real. Your mentality is whacked if you're actually making a comment to that effect.
Do you think each bottle is counted and counted again to ensure there is EXACTLY 100 pills? UG's would be putting in countless man-hours if that were the case. Literally thousands and thousands of man-hours. Shit happens, periodically things are slightly off. That's just the way it goes. Even Axio, which is made in an actual plant had some minor issues. Your Test, although labelled 250mg/ml might be 246mg/ml, it also might be 271mg/ml. If you don't like it - DON'T BUY UNDERGROUND. Go pay 5 times more for HG product.
Agreed. So **** off BAM :D
drdnj
24-03-2009, 10:39 PM
Agreed. So **** off BAM :D
HAHAHAHA....gezuz Nate you tell him! JK
kloan
24-03-2009, 11:21 PM
Why don't people contact their rep/source first before posting this on an open board?
Lab name wasn't revealed, so open or not I fail to see why this matters. I'm certainly not going to cry over a few pills short and give my rep/source a hard time over it. I just wanted some opinions on the matter, and I've certainly got some.
If there were past issues that were resolved in a proper manner - Why would you not just take those steps again to get the issue dealt with?
Like I said, I don't care if there's a few pills short. Was looking for other people's experiences.
And for those who said "oh I wonder what else is wrong if the pill count is off?" Get real. Your mentality is whacked if you're actually making a comment to that effect.
Agreed.
Do you think each bottle is counted and counted again to ensure there is EXACTLY 100 pills? UG's would be putting in countless man-hours if that were the case. Literally thousands and thousands of man-hours. Shit happens, periodically things are slightly off. That's just the way it goes. Even Axio, which is made in an actual plant had some minor issues.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense..
Anyway, it was a simple question, not a witch hunt - so I'm sorry if it comes off like that. The two issues now seem totally unrelated and if I happen to come across a few pills short in the future I'll be sure to keep it to myself.
natenator
25-03-2009, 08:31 AM
Lab name wasn't revealed, so open or not I fail to see why this matters. I'm certainly not going to cry over a few pills short and give my rep/source a hard time over it. I just wanted some opinions on the matter, and I've certainly got some.
Like I said, I don't care if there's a few pills short. Was looking for other people's experiences.
Agreed.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense..
Anyway, it was a simple question, not a witch hunt - so I'm sorry if it comes off like that. The two issues now seem totally unrelated and if I happen to come across a few pills short in the future I'll be sure to keep it to myself.
pretty sure most of his rant was not remotely directed at you... ;)
the tren is still coming out of his system too... lol
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