First day of HIT

[Durk]

So I switched to HIT training today, and I just had the weirdest experience ever. A few hours after my workout, I was on my way to work when I noticed my hand was covered in blood. I looked in the mirror and I had a huge nose bleed wich has never happened to me before. Not even when I was on gear. Then a few hours later my traps and upper back cramp up. It was a crazy pump just like being on D-bol and tren, but I have been clean for months.
Is this normal for heavy duty style training? The pumps are insane, but the random nose bleeding is something that I can do without.

[Hutch87]

ok just wanted to note that heavy duty was creayed to sell nautalis equipement and to get gym members out the door even faster than they came in haha, i dont think any heavy duty guys got that big training heavy duty .... just my 2 cents man

[buildinthaskinnys]

So I switched to HIT training today, and I just had the weirdest experience ever. A few hours after my workout, I was on my way to work when I noticed my hand was covered in blood. I looked in the mirror and I had a huge nose bleed wich has never happened to me before. Not even when I was on gear. Then a few hours later my traps and upper back cramp up. It was a crazy pump just like being on D-bol and tren, but I have been clean for months.
Is this normal for heavy duty style training? The pumps are insane, but the random nose bleeding is something that I can do without.

The nose bleed could be unrelated, what was your workout like as far as sets and reps?

just curious because everyone has a different idea of HIT training.

[Bowlcut]

ok just wanted to note that heavy duty was creayed to sell nautalis equipement and to get gym members out the door even faster than they came in haha, i dont think any heavy duty guys got that big training heavy duty .... just my 2 cents man

I agree with that statement.

HIT works for some body types, but even then guys like Dorian would do multiple warm up sets before their sets to failure.

Obviously it depends on what an individual's goals are, but Durk did you ever get bleeding noses before HIT?

It could be change of weather and season because I always get more bleeding noises in spring and fall.

[buildinthaskinnys]

ok just wanted to note that heavy duty was creayed to sell nautalis equipement and to get gym members out the door even faster than they came in haha, i dont think any heavy duty guys got that big training heavy duty .... just my 2 cents man

Heavy duty training was created by Mike Mentzer, who had learned of high intensity training from Casey Viator who then introduced him to Arthor Jones the creator of nautilus equipment and the HIT theory, Mike Mentzers training was a little different from Jones as he used more sets and exersize.

For some people HIT works phenomenal, the biggest problem is generating the intensity required for it to work.

[Durk]

I used rest/pause, and partials at the end of the set, and it seemed to give me a lot of intensity.

[Durk]

It could be change of weather and season because I always get more bleeding noises in spring and fall.

Nope never gotten a bleeding nose without getting smacked in it first lol

[Hutch87]

I used rest/pause, and partials at the end of the set, and it seemed to give me a lot of intensity.

oh ok i see i bought the mentzer heavy duty book a while back out of curiosity and it was a couple bodyparts a day with one superset to failure on each (rest pausing would definately crank up the intensity as well as the partials) and he was saying once your advanced enough to only train every 11th day haha I think thats a bit extreme but if anything truly good came from it it gets people to take notice of the importance not to overtrain and to keep a detailed log book. I do believe that HIT works i just think mentzer took it a little weird at the frequency and marketing of nautalis haha. I have been training DC style as of late and i seem to be responding well to it

[Durk]

Well my hit routine is kinda like if DC and heavy duty had sex and made babies.

Chest/ Bicep

Smith machine incline press 1 set
Hammer strength flat bench 1 set
Incline BD fly 1 set

Barbell curl 1 set
Machine preacher 1 set
DB hammer curl 1 set
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Delt/ Tricep

Smith machine behind neck presses 1 set
DB laterals 1 set
DB hammer grip front raises 1 set

Close grip presses 1 set
Incline skull crusher 1 set
Seated barbell extension 1 set
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Quads/Ham/calve

Smith machine squat 1 set
Leg press 1 set
Leg extension 1 set

Stiff leg dead lift 1 set
Lying curls 1 set
Standing curls 1 set

Seated calve raise 1 set
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Back/rear delt

Barbell row 1 set
1 arm machine rows 1 set
Hammer strength high row 1 set
Pull over machine 1 set

DB reverse incline fly 1 set


ROTATION B

Chest/ bicep

Smith machine flat bench 1 set
Hammer strength incline press 1 set
Machine fly 1 set

Preacher curl 1 set
Seated DB curl 1 set
cable curl 1 set
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Delt/Tricep

Hammer strength machine press 1 set
Wide grip upright row 1 set
Barbell front raise 1 set

Weighted dips 1 set
Flat bench skull crusher 1 set
Wide grip cable pushdowns 1 set
( I alternate grips between sessions, as well as use a rope at times)

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Quads/ Hams/calve

Hack squat 1 set
unilateral leg press 1 set
machine squats 1 set

Sumo presses( on leg press machine) 1 set
1 leg lying curl 1 set
1 leg static lunge 1 set

Standing calve raise 1 set

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Back/rear delt

Dead lift 1 set
Hammer strength pull down 1 set
Seated cable row 1 set
Stiff arm push down 1 set

Bent cable reverse fly 1 set

[Durk]

week 1 is rotation a then week 2 is rotation b, and then it repeats. I use one warm up set. I use Rest pause, then partials a little above the mid point at the end of each set.
It is a routine by a guy known on some forums as Razor Ripped, and no I didnt pay him. He gave it to me on one of his Q&A threads.

I know its not HIT in the traditional sence but its not really DC either.

[BIGABOY]

HIT training kick ass it works for very well for me, after those work outs i do 20 mins of cardio i can shed wieght pretty fast. just it hurts my shoulders those after a few weeks of doing it

BIGABOY