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ManInTheBox
20-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Having nasty trensomnia on my cutting cycle - lucky if I clock in 4 total hours a night. Obviously, this is effecting alot so I'm asking for suggestions on sleep aids.
I've heard GABA, 5-htp and V-root are decent, but I want to hear from people's experiences on what worked for them
pinhead
20-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Valerian root was ok. GABA didn't help me fall asleep but when I did, man those dreams were insane and vivid. Fun stuff.
AlbertaBeef
20-03-2009, 03:13 PM
I took gravol for a few nights and then melatonin for a couple more and then started sleeping fine. Whether or not I was going into a good rem 3 or rem 4 I have know idea as I was still tired the next day.
ironwill
20-03-2009, 03:24 PM
melatonin works wonders for me when i have issues.....GH also works well for slepplessness...
Old-Dog
20-03-2009, 03:26 PM
You go to your family MD. Tell him your stressed. Angry and haven`t been able to stay calm. You have nasty anxiety and you can`t sleep.
Tell him, you were prescribed Ativan 1mg for this before and would like to try it again to see if it helps.
Also. Tell him without a sleeping aid you will lose your dayjob, Zopricone is all that works for you.
Please sir, ..Then look desperate. lol. works for me. Or just ask a buddy who may have it on hand.
Combine those two and you`ll be counting sheep for 8 hours!
NorthOf60
20-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Smoke a little herb and you will sleep like a baby and you won't get the side affects you get from sleep aids.
waderow
20-03-2009, 03:47 PM
weed, and GABA. GABA needs to be 4grams minimum before bed.
6-9g of melatonin did it for me.
Ritch
20-03-2009, 05:04 PM
weed, and GABA. GABA needs to be 4grams minimum before bed.
I`ve heard alot of people having freak like symptoms from just 2 grams. I have a friend who took 5 grams and thought he was going to die. I just got my gaba and will be starting with 1 gram just to be safe, I`d do the same if I were you. What`s the worst that can happen if it dosen`t work? Just take more, if you take too much you`ll be dealing with the unpleasant sides.
I always heard you must take it empty stomach. Is this what you do Waderow. Was thinking of taking it 30 mins before bed with magnesium and zince then drinking the protein shake with peanut butter. What do you think?
Kronis
20-03-2009, 05:50 PM
3mg melatonin has been putting me to down for the count lately.
Solid 8-10 hours, even crazier dreams than usual.
giannos
20-03-2009, 08:37 PM
Xanax FTW... You'll sleep like a baby for 12 hours... But Benzo's become quite habit forming...
one of those should knock you out. hah
waderow
20-03-2009, 10:37 PM
I`ve heard alot of people having freak like symptoms from just 2 grams. I have a friend who took 5 grams and thought he was going to die. I just got my gaba and will be starting with 1 gram just to be safe, I`d do the same if I were you. What`s the worst that can happen if it dosen`t work? Just take more, if you take too much you`ll be dealing with the unpleasant sides.
I always heard you must take it empty stomach. Is this what you do Waderow. Was thinking of taking it 30 mins before bed with magnesium and zince then drinking the protein shake with peanut butter. What do you think?
i never got any crazy sides, but felt it get less effective over time? yes
start at 1gram...sure it will work first night, but you will soon be taking 2, 3, 4 grams. it hits like a narcotic when it does and you are numb to any and all pain.... i love GABA, but you have to cycle it. As you get used to it.
The dreams are very fun too.
As far as empty stomach... whatever. I always take before bed, and then lay down.... next thing you know youre waking up at some point in time way later.
smithmitchelle
20-03-2009, 11:37 PM
Melatonin - Most people including myself experienced vivid dreaming (Good dreams & Nightmares). After about 4 days of using it that side effect went away but still working like a charm. Plus its pretty cheap. Rating: 4/5
5-HTP - Though used in conjuction with melatonin often I did not notice any effect on me. I could take it during the day and still remain alert. Combining it I did not notice that I was falling asleep faster, sleeping longer or better. But makes you feel better after serotonin depleting activities :S Rating: 1/5
Diphenhydramine hydrochloride (Benadryl) - Definitley a proven knock out. If you are taking a ECA for cutting or Clen/T3/T4. Benadryl can be used for two purposes. 1) Cleansing your receptors for increased absorption of your cutting supplements 2) knocking you out to get that well needed sleep to grow. Rating 5/5
Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) - This stuff puts me out like a baby within 1.5H of taking it. Though when I wake up in the morning I feel groogy. The effects of the drugs continues to alter your brains natural sleep cycle and decreases the amount of times your brain enters REM sleep. Rating: 3/5
Alprazolam (Xanax) - If you are really anxious, xanax will calm you down. It will not have the sleep inducing effects like some of the other products but will help your body relax. Im currently on 1.5mg I took an hour ago and feel like I can stay up. But once I lay down I can probably start dosing off. rating: 4/5
Solo59
21-03-2009, 02:32 PM
You go to your family MD. Tell him your stressed. Angry and haven`t been able to stay calm. You have nasty anxiety and you can`t sleep.
Tell him, you were prescribed Ativan 1mg for this before and would like to try it again to see if it helps.
Also. Tell him without a sleeping aid you will lose your dayjob, Zopricone is all that works for you.
Please sir, ..Then look desperate. lol. works for me. Or just ask a buddy who may have it on hand.
Combine those two and you`ll be counting sheep for 8 hours!
I'm with this guy, though either Ativan or Zoppies would be enough. I usually awake feeling great when I use either. The rest is just herbal wishful thinking (IMO) -- though liquid melatonin overdosing will help and I admit I know little about GABA.
Both Ativan (lorazepam) & Zopiclone are habit forming and of the tranquillizer class of drugs. Over time, tranx will sap one's will power, so I'd be careful here. Zoppies are the milder choice and you use them only at bedtime. Ativan is handy for any kind of stress (like Tren rage or anxiety?).
Solo
Solo59
21-03-2009, 02:34 PM
Xanax FTW... You'll sleep like a baby for 12 hours... But Benzo's become quite habit forming...
Xanax, a tranquillizer, is very habit forming and very hard to kick.
Solo
Mr.Freeze
21-03-2009, 02:37 PM
one of those should knock you out. hah
LOL TKO :D
giannos
21-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Xanax, a tranquillizer, is very habit forming and very hard to kick.
Solo
Isn't that I wrote ? lol... yes all Benzo's are habit forming, so are sleeping pills and Ativan, IMO is 10x more habit forming than Xanax.. ( especially the sublingual )...Zoplicone makes my mouth taste like metal for hours after I wake up and I'm groggy as hell... No thanks....
ezturbo
22-03-2009, 01:19 PM
one of those should knock you out. hah
That reminds me of super blunt Mondays hah. Emery is a gigantic narcisitic prick though.
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