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talon05
19-03-2009, 05:07 PM
I am taking T400 Mix 200 ethanate and 200 deconate Everytime i inject i get a fever and chills for 24 hours then the injection site gets red for 24 hours then all is good...I am guessing it is the BA content...just wondering how common this is.....The injections hurt like a bitch too the day after....i am gonna try and bake the ba out of it......If anyone has any ideas of how to lower the Ba content without ruining the gear that would be great

St
19-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Most people have this problem with t-400 you can heat the oil up a bit.I can't take t-400 by any lab i get the flu like feeling from the shots that is why i will only take cyp 250mg or a test e 250mg.Some people get use to it over time,but the gains are crazy if you can handle the pain.

talon05
19-03-2009, 05:23 PM
col brother thanks that makes me feel abit better...I am gonna try mixing it with EQ 1/2 ml t400 1 ml EQ that should help
I hope

St
19-03-2009, 05:34 PM
col brother thanks that makes me feel abit better...I am gonna try mixing it with EQ 1/2 ml t400 1 ml EQ that should help
I hope


Ya 1 ml eq with 1 ml t-400 will be no pain,or at least less pain.

canadianmuscle0803
19-03-2009, 05:43 PM
thankfully they have switched to Test300 now, this Test400 was painful for me as well.. but some people have no issues with it.. i found heating it up before injecting really helped a lot.. good luck

talon05
19-03-2009, 06:05 PM
Ya I tried heating it up hoping that would help but didnt still had crazy flu like symptoms the second day and today redness as per last three inject....It is not an infection as the redness and heat from site is going down alot in the last few hours...but WOW it is great stuff very potent just Painfull it seems mixing it is the way to go I will give it a try....

drdnj
19-03-2009, 06:37 PM
I am taking T400 Mix 200 ethanate and 200 deconate Everytime i inject i get a fever and chills for 24 hours then the injection site gets red for 24 hours then all is good...I am guessing it is the BA content...just wondering how common this is.....The injections hurt like a bitch too the day after....i am gonna try and bake the ba out of it......If anyone has any ideas of how to lower the Ba content without ruining the gear that would be great

Yep, I am with you on this....I had a hell of a time with it. In fact, I even had the worst "Tren cough" ever from T400-----yes I put it in quotes because I only ever got it before from Tren homebrew...
My way around the chills and fever was to spilt the shots up over the week (I was taking 1.2g per week-----so I split it into three 1cc (400mg) shots (M, W, F) and cut it with 1cc of sterile cottonseed oil.
If you can handle it, the stuff works wonders.
D

DFA_DFA
19-03-2009, 10:00 PM
strong dosing at 1.2g!!

Im running T400 ( 150 test cyp/ 150 test E/ 100 test prop)

first few weeks... I couldnt sit on the toilet to shit properly it hurt so bad for days after.

On week 6 mow and im going to crank it up to 800mg/week 400 tues 400 sat.

I get night fevers/sweats pretty bad once I go to bed i just seem to start over heating ill be fine all day and ill wake up fine just going to bed.

And yes my injection sites are almost always a little red an sore from the T400. Bet it will get much worse once im doing a full ML haha.

Delt King
19-03-2009, 11:00 PM
Yep, I am with you on this....I had a hell of a time with it. In fact, I even had the worst "Tren cough" ever from T400-----yes I put it in quotes because I only ever got it before from Tren homebrew...
My way around the chills and fever was to spilt the shots up over the week (I was taking 1.2g per week-----so I split it into three 1cc (400mg) shots (M, W, F) and cut it with 1cc of sterile cottonseed oil.
If you can handle it, the stuff works wonders.
D

You got a tren like cough from test? Really?
Has anybody else here ever get that effect? I've never heard that before.

canadianmuscle0803
19-03-2009, 11:13 PM
Tren is a hell of a lot more pricy then test, so if you got tren cough from test that would be a bonus :)

Dk
19-03-2009, 11:13 PM
5* t400 is absolutely painless

Delt King
19-03-2009, 11:18 PM
Tren is a hell of a lot more pricy then test, so if you got tren cough from test that would be a bonus :)

Yeah, that's what i was thinking...switch out the test for tren and make less money. hmmm something sounds fishy. lol

DFA_DFA
19-03-2009, 11:19 PM
5* t400 is absolutely painless

for a few people maybe lol

Dk
19-03-2009, 11:20 PM
for a few people maybe lol

have you tried the new blend?

the all enth was a little painful but the new stuff is beaut

DFA_DFA
19-03-2009, 11:32 PM
have you tried the new blend?

the all enth was a little painful but the new stuff is beaut

painless T400 eh???.. sounds good haha.. expect im a SAL guy..if I ever get the chance to get tho Ill buy it forsure.

Dk
19-03-2009, 11:36 PM
painless T400 eh???.. sounds good haha.. expect im a SAL guy..if I ever get the chance to get tho Ill buy it forsure.

i dont really like the long and short mixed blend sal has.

has rather just have a couple long.

the whole reason i run long esters is so i dont have to pin EOD, if i wanted to id just use the full dose in prop

DFA_DFA
19-03-2009, 11:41 PM
i dont really like the long and short mixed blend sal has.

has rather just have a couple long.

the whole reason i run long esters is so i dont have to pin EOD, if i wanted to id just use the full dose in prop

agree'd but for me even pinning it twice aday at 800mg/week is cheaper then buying that many MG's to run just Test E alone.. but the pain isnt to bad anymore..not liek the first 3 weeeks... once you get past that its all good

drdnj
20-03-2009, 01:51 PM
You got a tren like cough from test? Really?
Has anybody else here ever get that effect? I've never heard that before.

Yeah, 2x! I was amazed....tells me that the BA is what I am allergic to, not tren. I get the cough periodically from my tren too......so I definitely know what it is. It may just be my sensitivity to BA

drdnj
20-03-2009, 01:54 PM
Yeah, that's what i was thinking...switch out the test for tren and make less money. hmmm something sounds fishy. lol

Hahaha...I was NOT implying that it is tren in T400....thats why I said "TREN COUGH" in quotes. I have had a few episodes with T400 and a brutal cough immediate post injection---these episodes were identical to what i get from Tren periodically. I assume it is the high BA that I am allergic to. Stuff works VERY good though