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monkey
19-03-2009, 01:53 AM
Has anybody ever tried a NPP only (or combined with anavar or tbol) cycle? I am aware that test should be included... but just curious.
What were your gains and how did you feel while on cycle?
well, it would be the exact same as a deca only cycle, just faster ester.
Youd be shut down, and your penis will hate you.
monkey
19-03-2009, 01:56 AM
Lol, yeah figured tha this cycle would need some Viagra since my test would shut down.... doesnt sound like a cool thing to do..
monkey
19-03-2009, 02:03 AM
Well,,, how would this compare to a test cycle in terms of gains, workouts etc...
Well,,, how would this compare to a test cycle in terms of gains, workouts etc...
i honestly dont even really know why your considering it.
Test only would beat a nandralone only cycle anyday.
there might be that 0.1% of users who prefer no testosterone cycles, but usually their experienced and know thats the choice for them.
if your unsure on the subject, you cant really justify going any cycle without test.
im not sure the exact symptoms of being shut down because ive used test as a majority compound, but youll def lose libido, might be lethargic.
as far as gains and everything id have to say the test would be better, ive never done a deca only cycle, but theres gotta be a reason Test only is alot more popular then deca only haha
monkey
19-03-2009, 02:31 AM
Honestly... the only reason this ever came to my mind is because I shed a lot of hair on test... if it happens , too bad since It will happen anyways... but if there is a way (e.g. deca etc.) that I can reduce the shedding without sacrificing too much.. well, I'd think about it.
Loosing my beloved hard on... big ass sacrifice, yep. being tired etc. or perhaps gaining significantly less... yeah, I'd probably screw this ... but yeah just curious as I mentioned.
Honestly... the only reason this ever came to my mind is because I shed a lot of hair on test... if it happens , too bad since It will happen anyways... but if there is a way (e.g. deca etc.) that I can reduce the shedding without sacrificing too much.. well, I'd think about it.
Loosing my beloved hard on... big ass sacrifice, yep. being tired etc. or perhaps gaining significantly less... yeah, I'd probably screw this ... but yeah just curious as I mentioned.
ever tried anything for hair loss like finasteride? might have spelt that wrong but ya
Npp and t-bol stack with be good.As for npp its a short ester so you can be sore like prop,but gains will be close to test,i get beefed up on deca.
waderow
19-03-2009, 09:49 AM
some pretty large mofos NEVER touch test.
hyperlite32
19-03-2009, 10:26 AM
Would deca dick still be a huge problem if Caber or Pravi was used?
I would assume it would be reduced or taken care of... Depending on how the user responds to dopamine-antagonist...
I am curious, anyone run a Deca only with the use of caber or pravi?
Boulderer77
19-03-2009, 10:30 AM
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I ran a Deca Dbol Cycle and I never had boner problems.
ultrasafe
19-03-2009, 11:52 AM
Curious guys what about NPP and ANDRIOL(just for a test booster) and than add proviron to make sure all free test is utilized. ANDRIOL an oral form of test (very safe, minimal sides), eventhough inconsistent. However, I have been told you need to take it with fatty oils.
So instead of NPP (nandrolane) cycle by itself (libidio issues major bummer), add a test booster (andriol)and in a non scientific term add a test enhancer (proviron), plus it works as an anti.:shock..
waderow
19-03-2009, 11:54 AM
What would be the reason for that? What would they use? Tren I'm guessing? Just curious...
anabolics... whatever...
nandrolone only
boldenone only
tren only
masteron only
primobolan only
dbol, drol or winny with above
stacks of any of the above
npp with dbol or var or drol would be wicked.......id add low dose test (200-250/wk) for boners......i noticed that it took me forever to cum while on npp.......watch out for night sweats and a bit of insomnia.......
buildinthaskinnys
19-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Has anybody ever tried a NPP only (or combined with anavar or tbol) cycle? I am aware that test should be included... but just curious.
What were your gains and how did you feel while on cycle?
I ran deca only for 4 weeks on my first cycle, it wasnt until the fifth week that I added test, I ran 150mgs for the first 4 weeks then bumped up to 300 mgs for the remaining 8 weeks, Never had deca dick, within a week I noticed a very slight increase in strength but noticed more in endurance more than anything, I hardly felt fatigued while working out. after about two weeks I gained about 2 or 3 pounds. Nandrolone is a proven and amazing drug.
A little known fact about the nandrolone drug is "deca-dick" effects a very small percentage of users. It is suppressive to natural testosterone that I am not argueing.
Boners are in-directly related to testosterone levels.
I shut down after using nandrolone hard, but now I realize that it was my pct, when I do it again I will use hcg only for pct and only uptill 3 weeks after my last shot as studys have show serum testosterone levels to be at near full in this time after injections.
one guy i know personally ran deca & dbol no problems
another guy at the gym was telling me about his bud who hasnt been able to get his dick up naturally in 5-6 months since doing deca
waderow
19-03-2009, 03:09 PM
one guy i know personally ran deca & dbol no problems
another guy at the gym was telling me about his bud who hasnt been able to get his dick up naturally in 5-6 months since doing deca
dostinex
dostinex
i suggested that + HCG therapy but im sure it fell on deaf ears
MoooBaby
19-03-2009, 03:44 PM
To be honest I feel best when my test is at around 300 a week. 350 test 350 tren 200 deca, 50mg dbol 2 hrs pre-workout and 5iu gh daily with 5iu slin x 3 day. . best cycle evr.
buildinthaskinnys
19-03-2009, 03:49 PM
one guy i know personally ran deca & dbol no problems
another guy at the gym was telling me about his bud who hasnt been able to get his dick up naturally in 5-6 months since doing deca
I wonder what kind of pct he did, I used clomid and Tamox,I will never use those again as I feel they were to blame for my slow recovery.
There is a whole new train of thought on pct starting to circulate, well not so much as new because the the old guys were doing it way back when, basically taper down and off or just quitting cold turkey and allowing your body to do the work as opposed to more chemicals.
I think I would have been better off not using any ancilliarys when I came off, except possibly hcg.
There was study that showed that the bodys natural serum testosterone returned very close to normal within 14 days of the last shot of nandrolone decanoate. When I used clomid I feel as if I was shut down for a month and a half.
spinalcolum
19-03-2009, 03:59 PM
When I first started using juice,, I did a few Deca only cycles. One was a Human grade Czech NPP cycle. To tell you the truth,, I never experienced Deca dick. Although I was only using around 400mg/week. I got and put on alot of size on that dosage. I love Deca,, but now I stack it with test.
Deca dick is usually dose dependant. So the larger you are,, the more likely you will get the limp dick.
spinalcolum
19-03-2009, 04:03 PM
To be honest I feel best when my test is at around 300 a week. 350 test 350 tren 200 deca, 50mg dbol 2 hrs pre-workout and 5iu gh daily with 5iu slin x 3 day. . best cycle evr.
That sounds like anice cycle,,although 200mgof deca seems kinda low toget the nice effects from it.
force
19-03-2009, 07:41 PM
npp with dbol or var or drol would be wicked.......id add low dose test (200-250/wk) for boners......i noticed that it took me forever to cum while on npp.......watch out for night sweats and a bit of insomnia.......
Elevated prolactin levels will cause this, use caber or Prami to take care of the problem. I have learned never to run deca or tren without them.
F.
Old-Dog
19-03-2009, 11:51 PM
My body looked as if I were stone. It was deadly stuff. I used Prop.
1.5ml prop 1ml NPP. EOD. Stacked with winny 50mg EOD and 25mg proviron daily,
So wicked. Yeah, had wicked bonners but couldn't cum! lol
hyperlite32
20-03-2009, 10:34 AM
Elevated prolactin levels will cause this, use caber or Prami to take care of the problem. I have learned never to run deca or tren without them.
F.
Well said.
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