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waderow
17-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Okay, getting my slin cherry popped tonight.

going to be running a pwo slin jab...

now, never bought this stuff before, and upon purchasing, I noticed it is 100 units per ML. Fine, but thats a little hefty for me if I want to start at 3iu....

I am using 1/2 cc slin pins, and am not overly happy with the accuracy i am going to get, as the difference between 3iu and 5 iu is not a whole hell of a lot on the barrel.... should I just start at 5iu?

did i buy too potent of slin?
should I have 10 unit slin pins for this?

gustavo77
17-03-2009, 05:57 PM
Bro, if you ever shot 100units of log, you would go into a coma and probably die. I use 1ml slin pins...easy to measure iu's... You can start with 5iu but no more...make sure you take in 50-60grams of sugar immediately after your shot and eat a meal with carbs and protein within 1.5hrs of the shot...make sure you have some glucose tabs, gatorade or even candy on hand at all times in case you start going hypo...if you feel lightheaded, shaky or break into a cold sweat, get some sugar into youself immediately...

waderow
17-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Bro, if you ever shot 100units of log, you would go into a coma and probably die. I use 1ml slin pins...easy to measure iu's... You can start with 5iu but no more...make sure you take in 50-60grams of sugar immediately after your shot and eat a meal with carbs and protein within 1.5hrs of the shot...make sure you have some glucose tabs, gatorade or even candy on hand at all times in case you start going hypo...if you feel lightheaded, shaky or break into a cold sweat, get some sugar into youself immediately...

lol yeah, i am not going to blast a whole CC LOL

I have 1/2 cc slin pins... 10,20,30,40,50 units.
My point was getting 3iu is not very accurate.......

gustavo77
17-03-2009, 06:03 PM
lol yeah, i am not going to blast a whole CC LOL

I have 1/2 cc slin pins... 10,20,30,40,50 units.
My point was getting 3iu is not very accurate.......

Don't worry about the 3iu...5iu will be fine if you get your carbs in. Do not exceed 10iu and work up to it...5iu for a few workouts, then 7-8iu for a couple workouts and finally 10iu...

Are you taking GH also? If you are, you can inject the slin and GH in the same pins but split the dose bi-laterally into the muscles trained.

waderow
17-03-2009, 06:07 PM
I am on HGH, but will be taking HGH in AM, and my workouts are PM, so slin pwo.... although am interested in Am slin protocol, but will experiment with that some other time.

Gus, are you suggesting IM slin jabs?

dinosaur
17-03-2009, 06:15 PM
When I first used slin, I started at 2iu, then 4, 6, 8, and then no more than 10.

As Gustavo said, just make sure you have the sugar on hand and plan your post workout meals carefully.

It works well, but please be careful. I was as careful as could be and still had one slip up, fortunately it was easily countered, but still... do it by the book :)

Also... you will feel the side effects if you don't do your pwo meals correctly ie not enough carbs. Thus, your body will tell you when you're ready to gradually increase your dosage. Don't do anything you don't feel comfortable doing.

waderow
17-03-2009, 08:59 PM
okay, just blasted 5iu
took in 80 grams of waxymaize

in 10 minutes, taking my protein shake, and am grilling chicken as we speak which will be accompanied by some complex carbs.

prior to bed, will be taking some fat free cottage cheese

gustavo77
17-03-2009, 09:13 PM
okay, just blasted 5iu
took in 80 grams of waxymaize

in 10 minutes, taking my protein shake, and am grilling chicken as we speak which will be accompanied by some complex carbs.

prior to bed, will be taking some fat free cottage cheese

You should be good with that...for me, after about 3 hours, Humalog seems to clear... but everyone is different.

I would consider doing your GH PWO with the slin...there are many benefits to running GH, IM PWO...

waderow
17-03-2009, 09:17 PM
Gus, I was thinking about taking slin in the AM as well. what do you think. Then I could take it with HGH....

BTW, if I stop posting tonight, I am dead.... :( so just wanted to say how much I love you guys

dinosaur
17-03-2009, 11:05 PM
just took 2iu myself to start off.


On what was mentioned above: there are benefits to taking hgh with slin pwo? As opposed to taking hgh pre workout (or in the morning) and slin pwo?

gustavo77
17-03-2009, 11:15 PM
Gus, I was thinking about taking slin in the AM as well. what do you think. Then I could take it with HGH....

BTW, if I stop posting tonight, I am dead.... :( so just wanted to say how much I love you guys

I think just take the slin PWO for now...see what you gain off that..on your next slin run you can take it in AM (5iu) and then PWO if you wish.

The benefit to taking the GH PWO is that there is some indication that GH injected into a trained muscle PWO can induce "hyperplasma" or the splitting and creation of new muscle cells.

waderow
17-03-2009, 11:17 PM
hmm. will have to consider that. perhaps go 4iu pwo, and 4iu AM

canadianmuscle0803
17-03-2009, 11:26 PM
thats what i do, i take 5iu in the morning with my GH and then 10iu PWO.. LOVE IT!

waderow
17-03-2009, 11:29 PM
thats what i do, i take 5iu in the morning with my GH and then 10iu PWO.. LOVE IT!

mind telling me about your diet during the day bro on this protocol?

canadianmuscle0803
17-03-2009, 11:31 PM
mind telling me about your diet during the day bro on this protocol?

i wake up, get my egg whites ready with some oatmeal and i have a kool-aid as well about 16 grams of sugar in the cool-aid.. i do my GH and my slin at the same time then i eat and im good to go.. then i have a shake with 30 grams of dextrose about an hour later. works for me. soon i will be getting glucose tabs just incase i fall into hypo mode.. i never knew about these till today, my buddy just told me about them.. you can get them at shoppers..

waderow
17-03-2009, 11:46 PM
i wake up, get my egg whites ready with some oatmeal and i have a kool-aid as well about 16 grams of sugar in the cool-aid.. i do my GH and my slin at the same time then i eat and im good to go.. then i have a shake with 30 grams of dextrose about an hour later. works for me. soon i will be getting glucose tabs just incase i fall into hypo mode.. i never knew about these till today, my buddy just told me about them.. you can get them at shoppers..

hmmm. sound interesting, might have to give this a shot. going to order some more hgh soon

Houstonbc
17-03-2009, 11:50 PM
canadianmuscle - what kind of gains are you seeing from this protocol? im also contemplating this

canadianmuscle0803
17-03-2009, 11:57 PM
canadianmuscle - what kind of gains are you seeing from this protocol? im also contemplating this

i was off for a month or so due to some health issues, i went down to 230 lbs, ine one week i went back up to 248 lbs.. and im not getting fat what so ever... sure it might be some water but im still very impressed, if you do this please be careful and always have those glucose pills with you at all time.. ive had some cases where i went into hypo mode while driving and no sugar on me.. not fun at all.. very scary..

waderow
18-03-2009, 12:18 AM
i was off for a month or so due to some health issues, i went down to 230 lbs, ine one week i went back up to 248 lbs.. and im not getting fat what so ever... sure it might be some water but im still very impressed, if you do this please be careful and always have those glucose pills with you at all time.. ive had some cases where i went into hypo mode while driving and no sugar on me.. not fun at all.. very scary..

all your HGH is AM?

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 12:30 AM
all your HGH is AM?

right now i split 8iu a day into 2 doses, morning and around 3pm.. i only do slin with the morning shot.

Houstonbc
18-03-2009, 12:34 AM
so no slin PWO for you?

Im having a hard time getting over banging 8iu of gh/day expensive habit

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 12:39 AM
so no slin PWO for you?

Im having a hard time getting over banging 8iu of gh/day expensive habit

yes, slin is done in the morning with the GH and PWO. I get my GH prescribed from a doctor, my health coverage covers it :ht

bmorlock
18-03-2009, 01:10 AM
yes, slin is done in the morning with the GH and PWO. I get my GH prescribed from a doctor, my health coverage covers it :ht



wow I'M jealous .. if u dont mind me asking , how did u manage that bro??

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 01:37 AM
wow I'M jealous .. if u dont mind me asking , how did u manage that bro??

LOL i was kidding.. i actually do sexual favors for GH.. haha

Mastagon
18-03-2009, 02:18 AM
Gus, I was thinking about taking slin in the AM as well. what do you think. Then I could take it with HGH....

BTW, if I stop posting tonight, I am dead.... :( so just wanted to say how much I love you guys

what does your avatar say?

giannos
18-03-2009, 03:51 AM
Gus, I was thinking about taking slin in the AM as well. what do you think. Then I could take it with HGH....

BTW, if I stop posting tonight, I am dead.... :( so just wanted to say how much I love you guys

No one is gonna give the love back? That's OK, I love you Waderow ;) ( STRONG no homo ) lol... You got a great handle of how to use Slin and have obviously researched ton. Just don't deviate off the plan and you'll be gtg

pw154
18-03-2009, 05:36 PM
I shoot it in the morning with my GH if I am going to be eating carbs close to my GH shot. You don't have to take much, 3-5iu is all it takes for me.

Kilburn
18-03-2009, 06:11 PM
10iu post is good.

dunno about the 2x per day shots. soundsl ike a good way to become a diabetic to me.

natenator
18-03-2009, 06:12 PM
10iu post is good.

dunno about the 2x per day shots. soundsl ike a good way to become a diabetic to me.
can't become diabetic from exogenous insulin use.

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 09:27 PM
can't become diabetic from exogenous insulin use.

correct.

i know guys who run insulin 3x/day with no issues.

waderow
18-03-2009, 09:33 PM
correct.

i know guys who run insulin 3x/day with no issues.

pretty much have to have no fat intake though?

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 09:40 PM
pretty much have to have no fat intake though?

well the guys that do slin 3 times a day are on a very strict diet plan as they compete in bbing and are very competitive, i cant mention names sorry, but yes they follow very strict rules to how they eat when they take their slin, i have to disagree though, they still eat fat with their meals just not a ton, and the slin they use during their meals are Humalin-R, PWO is humalog, if you look into some pro trainers like Chad Nichols and Milos Sarcev they all have protocals similar to this.

natenator
18-03-2009, 09:49 PM
well the guys that do slin 3 times a day are on a very strict diet plan as they compete in bbing and are very competitive, i cant mention names sorry, but yes they follow very strict rules to how they eat when they take their slin, i have to disagree though, they still eat fat with their meals just not a ton, and the slin they use during their meals are Humalin-R, PWO is humalog, if you look into some pro trainers like Chad Nichols and Milos Sarcev they all have protocals similar to this.
Hany Rambod too ;)

canadianmuscle0803
18-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Hany Rambod too ;)

stop talking to Fouad.. :rofl

natenator
18-03-2009, 09:56 PM
stop talking to Fouad.. :rofl
;)

bmorlock
19-03-2009, 12:59 AM
LOL i was kidding.. i actually do sexual favors for GH.. haha


good to hear im not the only one:moon

Kilburn
19-03-2009, 04:07 AM
correct.

i know guys who run insulin 3x/day with no issues.


can't become diabetic from exogenous insulin use.

you cant prove that. there hasnt been long term studies done on it. iv heard many say that it can lead to developing diabetes. isnt ronnie coleman diabetic now?

either way, im not risking it. 10iu humalog post is good enough.

dinosaur
19-03-2009, 07:16 PM
I think you may have gotten Ronnie Coleman confused with Jay Cutler because Jay Cutler has diabetes... That is, the NFL player, Jay Cutler.

Perhaps Ronnie Coleman has diabetes too. Who knows?