EQ Fakes

[Beachmuscle]

Here's a little something interesting I learned about EQ from a friend.

I won't mention the lab (Don't need the shit thrown at me, and those that have bought from them will know.), but I received a couple bottles of EQ from them this summer and they were clear like pure cottonseed oil. I thought WOW! This shit must be real clean!

Boy was I wrong.

Remember all hormones are the same, their are slight variations in colors (Especially with tren) due to processing and oxidation.

But the colors of a properly prepared product and proper storage or raw powders generally leads to a general color for the particular hormone in the finished state.

The oil used plays a role in the final color, cottonseed oil is pretty much clear, while grapeseed is yellowish to sometimes greenish.

You probably know this but EQ should never be clear... test can be "clearish", deca pretty much "clearish" too, depending on oil used... but you will never see clear or even close to clear EQ. When I say clearish I mean slightly yellow.

It should look like tren, yellow to brownish.

Now, liguids are ****ing the hardest thing to get past customs for some reason. Amps are a given why. But when it comes to the raws getting EQ is like getting a ****ing gift from god.

This causes two problems, FAKING, Or UNDERDOSING EQ.

Faking: This is usually done using a different hormone, usually Deca.

Underdosing: well, yeah, you get 100mg/ml instead of 250mg/ml, and maybe some test thrown in.

Don't believe "our filtration process is so good...." or " our "raws are so good..."

It's bullshit. EQ raw if you've ever seen a picture is like maple syrup. I don't care what you mix it with, it isn't going to come out clear. You will NEVER see clear RAW EQ.

So yeah moral of story, and pass it along, your eq should be really yelllow to brownish yellow, like tren. If it's clear or just slightly yellow, it's fake or underdosed.

Just thought I'd help you all out!

[Dk]

mind pm'in the lab?

just curious

[Beachmuscle]

Please don't PM me asking about the lab, no offense, all you have to do is take a look through the picture section. The lab will know who they are and they can offer their own "explanation".

[hyperlite32]

I am curious too...

Has anyone used both "dark" and "clear" EQ? Did you notice any differances?

I have never heard this before...

[champcar99]

I am curious too...

Has anyone used both "dark" and "clear" EQ? Did you notice any differances?

I have never heard this before...

I'm with hyper

[Monka]

OH, man, this is just one persons opinion!! I dont' know which lab it is, but seriously anyone that even THINKS they can tell anything about gear from colour shouldnt be using, ANY gear can be any colour. Yes solvernts play a role, but how clear is clear? water clear? I remember some pic's a long time ago where almost the whole line was water clear and everyone loved.. i cant see eq being any different, figure eq is just a dark like liquid, nothing specal and you have to add the SAME solvernts to it to make, unless you want to go less THEN i can see bit darker, but most really just have a basic guide line.. If any one can tell whats in a bottle by colour, has to find another way, like a test!!!, or people would have known this years ago, this is just a myth, like freezing sust, tren HAS to be dark blah blak oh, the best is no matter what, tren cant be over 75ml/cc...hahha seems like some just think peple trying to cheat,

[BAM]

A little off topic ..but I think scammers should be punished by death.

That is all.

[wan2lrn]

BM, I sure hope that you are wrong because the EQ that I finished up with in December was completely clear. It was my first time with EQ (400mg per week) and therefore I have nothing to guage it against.

[Dk]

so im lookin through the pics section, and maybe im being to strict on the coloring. But it all seems pretty clearish yellow to me

[Houstonbc]

Dont believe everything you read
I guess all the top labs in canada are selling fake or underdosed EQ and I can tell because of the colour, bullshit

[Old-Dog]

Well,

I am looking at my EQ and it looks like apple juice.

However, it is EQ. The lab is well known and I have used their EQ a few times.

I never have gotten the results from UG lab EQ like the Vet shit, but, that's me.

[C-money]

good info.. ill be running EQ for the first time come octoberish

[phatkid77]

i just started an EQ 2 wks ago, and by the end of the first week, my veins started to pop ;more...and its apple juicy... i think...

i would take info with grain of salt...
trust your source and your lab...

phats

[giannos]

This seems like bullshit to me as well... However, that being said any homebrewers out there that have made EQ and can comment ?

[waderow]

Raw Boldenone is brown, like maple syrup. But I have never seen tren coloured EQ. In fact, vet equipoise pics show yellowish liquid.

Vet EQ for race horses is the real shit. EQ was never made for humans

also, i have seen and used 4 different labs EQ and all is clearish yellow

[waderow]

h

[waderow]

smell your EQ, it should smell like burnt tires (rubber). As far as dosign, you just have to trust your source

[trainharder]

Btw, does anyone know why no pharmaceutical companies ever manufactured EQ?

[Big D]

ya I see a few in the pic section they look pretty clear,

[giannos]

Good info bro !!!

" You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to waderow again " :mad:

[Mr.Freeze]

Im not saying that BeachMuscle is right or wrong but i have some EQ in my artillery it is 400mg per ml but 200-300mg would still be kind of dark.
Next to it its Test just show the difference.

[nisser]

Btw, does anyone know why no pharmaceutical companies ever manufactured EQ?

It was never intended for human consumption. It's for horses and cattle.

[trainharder]

It was never intended for human consumption. It's for horses and cattle.

I understand but why wasn't it available for humans? (I'm asking because I know deca is available for cancer/aids patients to help them gain weight..so I'm curious why EQ was never used with humans)

[St]

Im not saying that BeachMuscle is right or wrong but i have some EQ in my artillery it is 400mg per ml but 200-300mg would still be kind of dark.
Next to it its Test just show the difference.


Oh shit Freeze i remember that eq 400 that was goos stuff that lab made.

[Mr.Freeze]

:lick :D

[St]

:lick :D


Did you find that eq hurt like t-400 test?
You know it was the only ug that every made eq 400,would amazing to see it that strong again.

[Mr.Freeze]

never did t-400, i find theres no point taking a fast and short ester mix together.
yup its the only 400mg/ml i ever seen up to now.

[Dk]

never did t-400, i find theres no point taking a fast and short ester mix together.
yup its the only 400mg/ml i ever seen up to now.

any t400 ive seen has never had an ester shorter then enanthate.

what other blends does it come in?

ive seen cyp/enth/deco and all enth

[spinalcolum]

It maybe possible that beachmuscle is pushing a newer lab????? Not meant to be a personal attack though.

[Beachmuscle]

OH, man, this is just one persons opinion!! I dont' know which lab it is, but seriously anyone that even THINKS they can tell anything about gear from colour shouldnt be using, ANY gear can be any colour. Yes solvernts play a role, but how clear is clear? water clear? I remember some pic's a long time ago where almost the whole line was water clear and everyone loved.. i cant see eq being any different, figure eq is just a dark like liquid, nothing specal and you have to add the SAME solvernts to it to make, unless you want to go less THEN i can see bit darker, but most really just have a basic guide line.. If any one can tell whats in a bottle by colour, has to find another way, like a test!!!, or people would have known this years ago, this is just a myth, like freezing sust, tren HAS to be dark blah blak oh, the best is no matter what, tren cant be over 75ml/cc...hahha seems like some just think peple trying to cheat,

Sorry. Wrong. When you put chocolate milk mix into milk it always comes out brown. The more milk you put in, the lighter it comes.

This isn't about a visual test to tell what type of gear you have, it's to expose cheats and underdosers when buying EQ.

EQ is DARK like maple syrup. IT IS NEVER CLEAR.

As for the rest of the hormones, yes you are right.

[Beachmuscle]

Raw Boldenone is brown, like maple syrup. But I have never seen tren coloured EQ. In fact, vet equipoise pics show yellowish liquid.

Vet EQ for race horses is the real shit. EQ was never made for humans

also, i have seen and used 4 different labs EQ and all is clearish yellow


Yes, you are correct. Maybe I am misunderstood. It doesn't have to be dark dark, but it's going to be distinctly yellow, not vaguely yellow.

And BTW the stronger it is, ie: more accurately dosed, the darker IT WILL BE.

[Beachmuscle]

Im not saying that BeachMuscle is right or wrong but i have some EQ in my artillery it is 400mg per ml but 200-300mg would still be kind of dark.
Next to it its Test just show the difference.


Nice pics, the stonger it is the darker it is.

[Beachmuscle]

It maybe possible that beachmuscle is pushing a newer lab????? Not meant to be a personal attack though.

I could give a **** what you think. Not meant to be a personal attack.

On another note, maybe it would help if we could get response from the Labs in question on how they get their EQ so clear.

And no bullshit that our raws are clear. (Impossible)

And no bullshit it's the oil we use is so clear.

It would be nice to hear a valid explanation. Until then, I stand that those that are selling clear EQ are not selling EQ.

[Beachmuscle]

Raw Boldenone is brown, like maple syrup. But I have never seen tren coloured EQ. In fact, vet equipoise pics show yellowish liquid.

Vet EQ for race horses is the real shit. EQ was never made for humans

also, i have seen and used 4 different labs EQ and all is clearish yellow


Yeppers, clearish yellow, so you got "some" eq in there.

The lab I am referring to most specifically is crystal clear.

[Dk]

I could give a **** what you think. Not meant to be a personal attack.

On another note, maybe it would help if we could get response from the Labs in question on how they get their EQ so clear.

And no bullshit that our raws are clear. (Impossible)

And no bullshit it's the oil we use is so clear.

It would be nice to hear a valid explanation. Until then, I stand that those that are selling clear EQ are not selling EQ.


Yeppers, clearish yellow, so you got "some" eq in there.

The lab I am referring to most specifically is crystal clear.

i know you arent gonna tell the lab...but..CMOOOOON haha. Is it a lab that has a good rep or what?

Because i noticed you posted on a lab thread in the pics section then edited your post with "nevermind, not worth it" or something

[Mister T 72]

I could give a **** what you think. Not meant to be a personal attack.

On another note, maybe it would help if we could get response from the Labs in question on how they get their EQ so clear.

And no bullshit that our raws are clear. (Impossible)

And no bullshit it's the oil we use is so clear.

It would be nice to hear a valid explanation. Until then, I stand that those that are selling clear EQ are not selling EQ.


I dont see where Beach is making this a personal attack. "IF" labs are underdosing their EQ or if it has some other compound in it SHAME on them !!
Will the labs respond to this? Not gonna happen lol

When buying ANY brand of UGL we take the risk of this sort of thing happening.And if they'll do it to 1 of their product line ie : EQ...well you get the picture....

I shoulda stayed outta this thread......just as I was getting ready to order EQ for my upcoming cycle :fart

[manfreakca]

every EQ i ever used was dark in color!

[Monka]

Whats with the big deal on eq colour, it's been the same since UG's and VetsGra been around, to get water clear you only add a solvent which i cant say or everyone would use. or old school is usraly 2% 20% blah then golden to which ever oil colour you use. If you use burnt almond oil you can get whole line to look dark, or to get clear , theirs a solvent and you can get almost everything water clear. trens a bit off but rest ok.. eq being a liquid mean nothing but that it's melted at below room temp, even enth will melt just above room temp. just pinch enth and youll see melts in fingers. I'd never doubt any of the big Ug labs ,
Oh and same goes for dark eq, all same to me unless real high in mg/cc then gets harder as to much hormone
but if the lab your talking about you want to say how they make it? thats there business not ours, long as legit. i dont' care if purple.

[IronMan]

Well I heard this from a very reliable person, who is a toxicologist doctor, who knows ALOT about anabolics, and can actually TEST them. He told me a large amount of the Eq I will see UG labs making is a mix of test and deca. As Equipoise is ONLY shipped in raw form in liquid. Its only in liquid form. So being that is very hard for alot of UG labs to get REAL eq in. In turn alot of UG labs will use a small dose of deca and test to make the eq affect. But.... there are a few UG labs in Canada currently making REAL EQ as we speak and have been for quite sometime now. And, yah, maybe if the EQ is clear in color, it is likely not EQ.

[Beachmuscle]

I dont see where Beach is making this a personal attack. "IF" labs are underdosing their EQ or if it has some other compound in it SHAME on them !!

If you spend any time on Body of Science or read the lab reports from all the Anabolics books, you will see switching compounds or underdosing is not uncommon at all. Everyone is always praising the labs and saying trust your source.... but sometimes they need a kick in the ass to keep them honest.

[Beachmuscle]

Well I heard this from a very reliable person, who is a toxicologist doctor, who knows ALOT about anabolics, and can actually TEST them. He told me a large amount of the Eq I will see UG labs making is a mix of test and deca. As Equipoise is ONLY shipped in raw form in liquid. Its only in liquid form. So being that is very hard for alot of UG labs to get REAL eq in. In turn alot of UG labs will use a small dose of deca and test to make the eq affect. But.... there are a few UG labs in Canada currently making REAL EQ as we speak and have been for quite sometime now. And, yah, maybe if the EQ is clear in color, it is likely not EQ.


Exactly!

[Beachmuscle]

Monka, can you PM me your magic solvent? I will not share it with anyone. I can look it up, then post back to resolve this.

[fathead]

there is a certain international UG im sure all have heard of. everything they make (except tren) is water clear. they make 325mg test, 400mg test, equ, etc and they all look like water. they work. if you can turn 400mg of test clear i dont see why it would be impossible to turn equ clear even if it is darker to start

[4031]

there is a certain international UG im sure all have heard of. everything they make (except tren) is water clear. they make 325mg test, 400mg test, equ, etc and they all look like water. they work. if you can turn 400mg of test clear i dont see why it would be impossible to turn equ clear even if it is darker to start

if this is the same lab your talking about, they even have a website with test results backing up their clear oil products

[giannos]

Question:

If EQ is suppose to be brown or DARK yellow, then why dose Eqi-Gan look clear and light yellow ? Are you saying that VET companies are also underdosing or faking EQ ?


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[Beachmuscle]

Question:

If EQ is suppose to be brown or DARK yellow, then why dose Eqi-Gan look clear and light yellow ? Are you saying that VET companies are also underdosing or faking EQ ?


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Nope, but that vet product is 50mg/ml. Thus the light yellow color.

[srt8]

Beachmuscle you fall into that category of spouting out bullshit you don't know anything about. Quit spreading bullshit because you are 100% wrong. I have personally tested EQ that was dark and eq that was very light/thin. Both were between 97-99% pure.

[nisser]

He does have a point though. Most vet EQ is dosed at 50mg/ml.

[Mr Ontario]

Here is a few pic's of the EQ use :)

[Ritch]

LOL at the express post package in the back... Fresh out the package boss?

[Beachmuscle]

Beachmuscle you fall into that category of spouting out bullshit you don't know anything about. Quit spreading bullshit because you are 100% wrong. I have personally tested EQ that was dark and eq that was very light/thin. Both were between 97-99% pure.

I know more than you think. And besides, I've instigated a good thread to keep the labs honest.

You have personally tested? Meaning in a lab, or on yourself?

You have seen raw eq that is very light/thin?!!?!!? Wow!

Have you ever tested eq that is perfectly clear? Never heard of it myself until this year.

I wish Body of Science would test a couple labs in question to see what you boys are really getting.

I am NOT spreading bullshit. It is well know that SOME labs substitute other hormones for more expensive ones or harder to obtain ones, particularily EQ. So no I am not 100% wrong.

All the labs the guys praise are gtg right? Remember Empire, PVL :rofl

No hard feelings, but I've raised a valid concern based on my experience and from what I've heard from UNBIASED individuals.

[gustavo77]

I had some UG EQ recently given to me...SA in the 10ml vials and it is pretty golden...reasonably dark, similar to quality tren E... I have only used EQ once and had to stop due to some anxiety but i want to try it at a lower dose (300-400mg/wk) for increased RBC and EPO... i will be giving some feedback on it soon..

[phatkid77]

A mod was GIVEN EQ.... I want to be next moderator...lmao

[gustavo77]

A mod was GIVEN EQ.... I want to be next moderator...lmao

"Given" is a objective term bro... maybe i should not even have opened my mouth...i traded it for food stamps...

[phatkid77]

I'm just playin with ya...

[srt8]

You have personally tested? Meaning in a lab, or on yourself?

You have seen raw eq that is very light/thin?!!?!!? Wow!

Have you ever tested eq that is perfectly clear? Never heard of it myself until this year.



Yes personally tested at lab, aka SRCS when they still tested stuff for people. The last time we tested it was actually 10 days before they got shut down.

Myself and 7-8 others homebrewed cycles on 4 different occasions, we figured since the price of powder was so cheap we would test the stuff we were using before making so we did. Back in the day EQ was only REALLY thick dark stuff, but the last couple times we got it was thinner and lighter, which freaked me out personally and that is why we tested it again even though it was from the same supplier who always had good stuff. I have a vial of enan cyp and eq i tried snapping a pic of but my digital camera is being a whore and won't go into pic snapping mode only record mode.

[srt8]

I am NOT spreading bullshit. It is well know that SOME labs substitute other hormones for more expensive ones or harder to obtain ones, particularily EQ. So no I am not 100% wrong.



Why on earth would they need to substitute eq other then to save a COUPLE bux a bottle? EQ is just as easy to get as any other powder?

[Monka]

Why on earth would they need to substitute eq other then to save a COUPLE bux a bottle? EQ is just as easy to get as any other powder?
Exactly!! i was laughing at that to, why the **** would ANY UG, put a test and deca togehter?? like really??
deca and test duh!!!!! **** tard... if you wanted an EQ type effect youd not mix those,.. if anything i'd want a low dose tren but not deca or test... but i get your a genious that know all his shit,... why the **** would i tell you ( a nobody) what was told to me in strick confidence?? id never tell anyone, as i'm true to my word, anything gets told to me stops here.. you make me sick with your stupid guesses and if you thing eq is hard to get in?? then your as dumb as your so called buddy.. i can tell for a FACT i know a UG thats ordered EQ buy the ****ing kilos many many many time and lost ONCE in 8 years, so **** off with your theory... piece of shit stupid **** tard of advice for good members to belivew.. eq CAN be dark, light anything.. dont mater, it's the oils that can say it all... eq can be black, means shit.. after you make..

[giannos]

Nope, but that vet product is 50mg/ml. Thus the light yellow color.

Fair enough, I thought that would come up but by your logic :"When you put chocolate milk mix into milk it always comes out brown. The more milk you put in, the lighter it comes " Therefore how can Equi-Gan have completely CLEAR EQ ?? Look at their latest pic from their website. It's the first one I posted. Completely CLEAR like water. So even its only 50mg shouldn't it still have yellow in it ? ( IE chocolate milk theory ? )


He does have a point though. Most vet EQ is dosed at 50mg/ml.

See Above ^^^^^


I know more than you think. And besides, I've instigated a good thread to keep the labs honest.

Very true, Excellent thread and reps to you !!



I wish Body of Science would test a couple labs in question to see what you boys are really getting.

Couldn't agree more. BoS needs to test more UGL's



No hard feelings, but I've raised a valid concern based on my experience and from what I've heard from UNBIASED individuals.

I agree and see no need for Beachmuscle to be flamed over this. This is a great thread and very informative

[Kilburn]

Exactly!! i was laughing at that to, why the **** would ANY UG, put a test and deca togehter?? like really??
deca and test duh!!!!! **** tard... if you wanted an EQ type effect youd not mix those,.. if anything i'd want a low dose tren but not deca or test... but i get your a genious that know all his shit,... why the **** would i tell you ( a nobody) what was told to me in strick confidence?? id never tell anyone, as i'm true to my word, anything gets told to me stops here.. you make me sick with your stupid guesses and if you thing eq is hard to get in?? then your as dumb as your so called buddy.. i can tell for a FACT i know a UG thats ordered EQ buy the ****ing kilos many many many time and lost ONCE in 8 years, so **** off with your theory... piece of shit stupid **** tard of advice for good members to belivew.. eq CAN be dark, light anything.. dont mater, it's the oils that can say it all... eq can be black, means shit.. after you make..

someone's on alot of gear, lol.

calm the fuk down

[Monka]

someone's on alot of gear, lol.

calm the fuk down
it's tren..ya, just i hate when these single people think they know the caramel secret.. and only to find out they don't
and to blame on of the biggest UG around "aX" that they would even think of cheating, i just cant' see it..it boils down he wants someone to tell him how its done or it's fake, and that's not the way
Id think the same if someone was to say that golden tren is fake. i know most tren can be dark IF you make old school,, but i know also with same lot, and different solvent and oil you can get easily golden, (like deca/eq/test/color ) but then again, i easily can get test or anything to be super dark, but why? to hide something? Burnt almond oil is dark and would work, or if you over cook a grape oil till almost burning it will turn brown and then let cool and THEN add hormone, soo many ways, but that seems like someone would be trying to hide if you always have said colours, this is why i never say colors mean anything. i made say a few bottles in my time for my cycles.,and have tried different ways and for my last one a friend who's in really good with that lab, i asked about it, how one can get clear, as i liked the look and long as i ddint say, he'd tell me, havent you see should where you can add a product and colour would change from black to clear?? it's not that hard,and i can't PM anyone or just say it as i kept word and word is bond. i'm sure if you spent time on the search engines anyone can see.. but it's a tricky one to find. For the record i have absolutely NOTHNG to do with that lab, i've try shit hear and there once in while, but i have no reason to protect them, this is mostly for any UG, as they've all been good, and some seem not to like that. UG do have mistakes but thats human, you'll alwasy here of the bad, and the good is very rare and normlay just a g2g or something,

[Mr Ontario]

lol No man I don;t think they would have fit in an express post envelope.....there pretty big jugs :)


LOL at the express post package in the back... Fresh out the package boss?

[phatkid77]

I think your theory of keeping labs honest is good.. But no way in hell is LABX coming on under there own name and explaon things...lol

And even if underdosed some times..what r u gunna do?? BBB?? Lol
Be thankful theses labs take the risks to provide their product..I'm sure the odd time a RAW doesn't make it thru!

Feel free to start your own lab, show us how easy it is..haha

[srt8]

Fair enough, I thought that would come up but by your logic :"When you put chocolate milk mix into milk it always comes out brown. The more milk you put in, the lighter it comes " Therefore how can Equi-Gan have completely CLEAR EQ ?? Look at their latest pic from their website. It's the first one I posted. Completely CLEAR like water. So even its only 50mg shouldn't it still have yellow in it ? ( IE chocolate milk theory ? )



See Above ^^^^^



Very true, Excellent thread and reps to you !!




Couldn't agree more. BoS needs to test more UGL's




I agree and see no need for Beachmuscle to be flamed over this. This is a great thread and very informative


Beachmuscle did nothing but stir a pot with BS info. What are you giving him rep for? Trying to keep the ug's in line is one thing but that's not what is being accomplished. All this thread does now is makes the gullible end user question there product because of the COLOR of it, which i just explains means nothing.

[bottleneckblooz]

I think he brings up a valid point, and I think he's really only trying to help people with some solid info. Most people seem to agree that EQ in it's raw form is very dark, so it would make sense that the higher dosed the EQ is the darker it should be. I know that the only EQ I've ever tried was quite light in color and was from a popular lab, dosed at 300mg/ml. It was lighter in color than the pics of the Vet gear that is dosed at 50mg/ml. The results I got from that stuff were "questionable".

The reason I say that is because I was also on Test E and Tren E during that cycle, so it was hard to guage what was doing what. I will say that the tren e from that same lab was kick ass. The reason I know this is because I only did the Tren @ 200mg/week for the first 10 weeks and results were awesome. When the tren ran out I continued with the test and eq for approx 4-5 more weeks. Most people say EQ takes about 8 weeks to start kicking in so after the 10 weeks of tren the EQ should have been kicking in nicely. But in those last 4-5 weeks after finishing the tren I actually noticed a bit of decrease in size, even while continuing to take 500mg/wk of test e and 450 mg/wk of EQ.

I should also say the proviron from this lab was boner city at 50mg/day. So much so that I had to drop the dose down to 25mg/day. Of all the things I've ever tried from this Lab, the only thing I've ever wondered about was the EQ.

[hyperlite32]

The good Old "Pissing Contest"

[L3]

you guys are shitting up my Friend's day he just got some eq

[Beachmuscle]

Back in the day EQ was only REALLY thick dark stuff, but the last couple times we got it was thinner and lighter, which freaked me out personally and that is why we tested it again even though it was from the same supplier who always had good stuff.


Interesting... thx

[Beachmuscle]

Exactly!! i was laughing at that to, why the **** would ANY UG, put a test and deca togehter?? like really??
deca and test duh!!!!! **** tard... if you wanted an EQ type effect youd not mix those,.. if anything i'd want a low dose tren but not deca or test... but i get your a genious that know all his shit,... why the **** would i tell you ( a nobody) what was told to me in strick confidence?? id never tell anyone, as i'm true to my word, anything gets told to me stops here.. you make me sick with your stupid guesses and if you thing eq is hard to get in?? then your as dumb as your so called buddy.. i can tell for a FACT i know a UG thats ordered EQ buy the ****ing kilos many many many time and lost ONCE in 8 years, so **** off with your theory... piece of shit stupid **** tard of advice for good members to belivew.. eq CAN be dark, light anything.. dont mater, it's the oils that can say it all... eq can be black, means shit.. after you make..

Thanks for calling me a ****tard and a nobody. You don't know me, but you just showed me who you are. 700 posts means nothing. Is that how you judge people? lol

I've obviousely struck a cord within you somewhere, do you have vested interests or trying to cover for someone?

And if you've ever talked to someone from customs, which there happens to be a member on this board, who will not discuss things openly, liguids go through a more stringent inspection process.

And my "piece of shit stupid **** tard of advice" wasn't meant to get you all emotional, if you don't like the discussion at least keep your emotions in check.

[Beachmuscle]

it's tren..ya, just i hate when these single people think they know the caramel secret.. and only to find out they don't
and to blame on of the biggest UG around "aX"


I didn't name names, and I don't know "aX", unless you mean axio and I've never tried their gear.

[Beachmuscle]

I think he brings up a valid point, and I think he's really only trying to help people with some solid info. Most people seem to agree that EQ in it's raw form is very dark, so it would make sense that the higher dosed the EQ is the darker it should be. I know that the only EQ I've ever tried was quite light in color and was from a popular lab, dosed at 300mg/ml. It was lighter in color than the pics of the Vet gear that is dosed at 50mg/ml. The results I got from that stuff were "questionable".

Thanks, this is the exact reason behind my post.

Somehow I new that certain individuals would bring it all down to oils and solvents.

And as far as tren goes, it can be light yellow to brown yes, but hmmmm... I remember a certain lab that put out a batch of clear tren and bro's got shit all results. I guess they used the wrong solvent or oil on that batch! :)

[waderow]

the majority of colour will come from the oil used

secondary is the dose, but the raw EQ liquid is diluted so much with solvent, preservative, and oil that it will not be like a can of coke. it will be clearish. If i had water clear EQ, i will admit, i would be slightly concerned, but if it came from SA for instance...a lab I trust, I would be okay with it and trust that they know what they are doing.

[Monka]

Ok, i didnt' mean to go off, Im trying to say you in so many words, i thought bashing axio or who ever, i dont' care, but as str8 said, eq comes in diffrent colours and what you will do is make newbees question a labs reputation who's been around for ever, now, if you can find a place to test it, THEN that's that, it's legit ( even then i'll have doubts, as i;ve tested shit i knew what was and came in diffrent) at a diffrent mg.. which was present at that time so know, not colour guessing,
I'm sorry about swearing, up all night sick and see this and thought you were bashing axio but if not, ok, i just seen light eq to dark also, and really didn't notice anything difference, at one time i know labs would always Over dose shit a lot, and now with the prices, they are more on, so might seem less, but it's at claim... hence being lighter in colour sometimes (depending whats used) Peg. whatever/poly/ Benzbeno/ba (dont do much) or Eo list goes on but THEN the oils.. figure this oils is up to at LEAST 60-70% of product minimum. some more..you can make tren500 for storage, and then want it to be tren 100 in future then add which ever usp oil, man that all of sudden will be supper lite....So labs were making very high, instead of 280-300mg now 250-260mg.
I just see people post stuff over the 10-15 year whatever and heard it all.. i seen Pv could give you cancer. Or like you said Ugs will put test and deca to achieve eq?? that's nuts, why would that be, unless its supper eq? or they are out right assholes...deca is more so for bulking and test? i know back in day some would pass of deca as eq or vise versa but never add test.. Some of the crooked street people.. and this is a reason, some didn't want to be part of that, and just make shit on own back then for personal so know what getting, and yes, there is customs on the board along with LE, and corrections.. mean nothing they are part of community, and have let shit go if can recognize it a member... I hope you know also you supposed real eq being liquid , weight isnt real weight... it's measured different also,... not total weight or you'll be under now get THAT tested you'll see... thats also a fact. if one does that, there eq400 would be eq 300ish

[Beachmuscle]

Ok, i didnt' mean to go off, Im trying to say you in so many words, i thought bashing axio or who ever, i dont' care, but as str8 said, eq comes in diffrent colours and what you will do is make newbees question a labs reputation who's been around for ever, now, if you can find a place to test it, THEN that's that, it's legit ( even then i'll have doubts, as i;ve tested shit i knew what was and came in diffrent) at a diffrent mg.. which was present at that time so know, not colour guessing,
I'm sorry about swearing, up all night sick and see this and thought you were bashing axio but if not, ok, i just seen light eq to dark also, and really didn't notice anything difference, at one time i know labs would always Over dose shit a lot, and now with the prices, they are more on, so might seem less, but it's at claim... hence being lighter in colour sometimes (depending whats used) Peg. whatever/poly/ Benzbeno/ba (dont do much) or Eo list goes on but THEN the oils.. figure this oils is up to at LEAST 60-70% of product minimum. some more..you can make tren500 for storage, and then want it to be tren 100 in future then add which ever usp oil, man that all of sudden will be supper lite....So labs were making very high, instead of 280-300mg now 250-260mg.
I just see people post stuff over the 10-15 year whatever and heard it all.. i seen Pv could give you cancer. Or like you said Ugs will put test and deca to achieve eq?? that's nuts, why would that be, unless its supper eq? or they are out right assholes...deca is more so for bulking and test? i know back in day some would pass of deca as eq or vise versa but never add test.. Some of the crooked street people.. and this is a reason, some didn't want to be part of that, and just make shit on own back then for personal so know what getting, and yes, there is customs on the board along with LE, and corrections.. mean nothing they are part of community, and have let shit go if can recognize it a member... I hope you know also you supposed real eq being liquid , weight isnt real weight... it's measured different also,... not total weight or you'll be under now get THAT tested you'll see... thats also a fact. if one does that, there eq400 would be eq 300ish


Cool man. I just wanted to open up a discussion on some things I had heard and had been reading. Not bash labs. I didn't want a big fight, just an open conversation and clarification on what I had been reading on other boards and what I have seen that made me question certain things.

Anyways..... it's been a fun thread. :beer

[Benny62]

My EQ is green for st pattys day!

[shithead]

Ok, i didnt' mean to go off, Im trying to say you in so many words, i thought bashing axio or who ever, i dont' care, but as str8 said, eq comes in diffrent colours and what you will do is make newbees question a labs reputation who's been around for ever, now, if you can find a place to test it, THEN that's that, it's legit ( even then i'll have doubts, as i;ve tested shit i knew what was and came in diffrent) at a diffrent mg.. which was present at that time so know, not colour guessing,
I'm sorry about swearing, up all night sick and see this and thought you were bashing axio but if not, ok, i just seen light eq to dark also, and really didn't notice anything difference, at one time i know labs would always Over dose shit a lot, and now with the prices, they are more on, so might seem less, but it's at claim... hence being lighter in colour sometimes (depending whats used) Peg. whatever/poly/ Benzbeno/ba (dont do much) or Eo list goes on but THEN the oils.. figure this oils is up to at LEAST 60-70% of product minimum. some more..you can make tren500 for storage, and then want it to be tren 100 in future then add which ever usp oil, man that all of sudden will be supper lite....So labs were making very high, instead of 280-300mg now 250-260mg.
I just see people post stuff over the 10-15 year whatever and heard it all.. i seen Pv could give you cancer. Or like you said Ugs will put test and deca to achieve eq?? that's nuts, why would that be, unless its supper eq? or they are out right assholes...deca is more so for bulking and test? i know back in day some would pass of deca as eq or vise versa but never add test.. Some of the crooked street people.. and this is a reason, some didn't want to be part of that, and just make shit on own back then for personal so know what getting, and yes, there is customs on the board along with LE, and corrections.. mean nothing they are part of community, and have let shit go if can recognize it a member... I hope you know also you supposed real eq being liquid , weight isnt real weight... it's measured different also,... not total weight or you'll be under now get THAT tested you'll see... thats also a fact. if one does that, there eq400 would be eq 300ish

I know youre pissed but I wish that you could explain yourself in a more coherent manner. I dont know about the rest of you, but I cant put together too much from what is being said.

[Ritch]

My EQ is green for st pattys day!

That`s the spirit!

[hugh mungus]

Great debate..something fresh to debate. Props to monka and beach.

[giannos]

Beachmuscle did nothing but stir a pot with BS info. What are you giving him rep for? Trying to keep the ug's in line is one thing but that's not what is being accomplished. All this thread does now is makes the gullible end user question there product because of the COLOR of it, which i just explains means nothing.

Ok fair enough. I did go run and look at my EQ in my drawer to see the color. I do think however this is/was a good thread. Everyone that knows has chimed in and said that raw EQ is like mayple syrup. I just wanna know how it becomes "light" yellow. Yes peopele say oil, solvents, etc. I'm not a chemist so I have no clue and no one has really said its "this" solvent or "this" oil. allot of speculation is all I read.... I trust my EQ and most UGL's in Canada, but none the less, I'd like to know...


***EDIT***

I must have missed your post bro about the Raw EQ being lighter in color and being verified by testing... Good info !!

[bigpapapump2016]

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[St]

I thinks its time to lock this thread.

[srt8]

Ok fair enough. I did go run and look at my EQ in my drawer to see the color. I do think however this is/was a good thread. Everyone that knows has chimed in and said that raw EQ is like mayple syrup. I just wanna know how it becomes "light" yellow. Yes peopele say oil, solvents, etc. I'm not a chemist so I have no clue and no one has really said its "this" solvent or "this" oil. allot of speculation is all I read.... I trust my EQ and most UGL's in Canada, but none the less, I'd like to know...


***EDIT***

I must have missed your post bro about the Raw EQ being lighter in color and being verified by testing... Good info !!

lol, i figured people had skipped that part of this thread as they keep saying the same thing and wondering what the deal is. I swear on a stack of needles and vials of EQ, that i have tested very light colored eq "powder" and it was of high purity (between 97-99% i forget exact) lol.

[gustavo77]

I thinks its time to lock this thread.

Ah, as long as people can refrain from the name calling and school yard bullshit, this discussion can go on.

I am not sold though...although there probably should be some colour to EQ in oil, i am not sold that it needs to be dark gold-brown to be 300mg/ml like some labs dose it...

Put it this way, the very best tren i ever used was light gold and this was due to the purity of the powder... this was confirmed by two very close friends of mine that are vets in the community and who make their own shit...that shit put other darker trens that i have used to shame..

[D-S]

From talks with many overseas powder sources over the years, lots of things have to do with purity of the powder and in alot of cases when you get just pure homrone or as pure as you can get it, your end result is gonna be a much lighter coloured product...alot of EQ sold is not that pure, or not as pure as other hormones...so take that into consideration when considering a product based on its color

the best Test 400 and Tren A to date I have ever tried was both pretty clear in colour...and I have used alot of gear...and alot of diffrent brands...I dont predict nor know how to predict the quality of a product based on the color of the oil

But if we get people to beilieve you can, that would be a great way to sell a product no matter on its quality or what they put in it to get it to look that way...either try it or get it tested!!

[Monka]

I know youre pissed but I wish that you could explain yourself in a more coherent manner. I dont know about the rest of you, but I cant put together too much from what is being said.
lol you seem to be the only one, but dont worry, shithead! nothing to do with you, i dont care about spell checking
All i was trying to say as everyone can read, there is NO such thing as colour meaning shit! Yes eq can be dark i can make anything dark , no biggie, but shit i've seen from china is mostly dark, but i have seem some good lights there to, and other place same thing you'll just get waaay diffrent colour, which as most vets here have said MEAN NOTHING, never had never will, and drives me nutz when i see one pearon tell the whole place eq is only dark,
When in fact, i'v seen few bottles from my cycles and know others that seen, well in millions and varys alot,. AS srt8 said shit been tested, and i know, i've used light gold eq from others, i've personaly seen it, and know it was liquid.
I've also seen DARK tren almost black and then once oil was add, you'd be in shock how clear it went? fake no.... and then again you'll see yellowish brown tren and man, shits like your chocolate milk ,totaly dark (what some people THINK is real) but not any more, this is more geared to old school , and as TREX said, color will never let you know if real, as Gus said his BEST tren was golden why?? i know, CLEAN! also god knows whats done to raws,some do get the dark stuff which is cool, who cares.

Which eq raw is BEach talking about??
Well, most reputable sources know, eq also, sells in 3 different ways,
95% most common cheapest shit, thats thicker and should be brown (er), 98% which is better, and weird lighter, and then 99% which takes longer and is most expensive BUT some order it, (or something like that been years now since seen that) as by expensive only few hundred. per kilo.. This is what was bugging me, i'm up at night almost dead and see that and sorry again, i've NEVER in my life called anyone names, on forums and probably never will, but this is his theory but to tell everyone that i think someone found 5-6 UG making it, (when you read this 100X gets old) that ALL them would be fake, is not cool.. i'd just would never say a lab makes fakes, shit happen but never fakes, or what THEY must know of how it's so called done, (who would mix test and deca?)thats low to cheat ..and IF they do i wish more testing can be done only and then you can see on paper, ( but lots of tests are ****ed to)....If a lab cant get eq in as easy, then somethings wrong with shipping methods, i know this for fact to.
why is raws easier? if they open they think blow.. and i cant say what ive seen but liquids can be packed exact same to look like power, just messier after opened till you get a method. I hope your friend isnt' getting liquids only in a bottle? that would be insane and rarely work and would let LE slowly build a case after seizeing , they get addy or see where ordered /find the ip from the source factory that REALLY ordered and then save ALL emails from the server , not hard.after a bit it's over. Seen it all almost. Be safe

[Monka]

lol, i figured people had skipped that part of this thread as they keep saying the same thing and wondering what the deal is. I swear on a stack of needles and vials of EQ, that i have tested very light colored eq "powder" and it was of high purity (between 97-99% i forget exact) lol. wow, never in my life seen eq powder,i thought it melts below room temp?? but i guess anythngs possible

[BAM]

The scary part is what is the chinaman cutting the eq raw with?

They give as much of a fuq as my avatar does.

[Benny62]

Well its good thing "The Underground Book" coming out this year by William Llewellyn so we'll know for sure what is real.

[Beachmuscle]

Thanks for the interesting info Monka. No hard feelings. Learned alot of interesting things from this thread. Didn't mean to stir up a bunch of shit.

But when I heard what I heard and read what I read, I was kinda like holy ****, people are gettting screwed!

[natenator]

wow, never in my life seen eq powder,i thought it melts below room temp?? but i guess anythngs possible
NEVER seen EQ powder either.

[Beachmuscle]

NEVER seen EQ powder either.

I think that's why he put powder in "quotes" lol