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monkey
14-03-2009, 05:15 PM
Hi,

I am fed up with dealing with Gyno, big surprise...

taking
D-Bol 25mg day
test prop 150 eod

gyno started flaring up. took nolva and it calmed down

everytime i drop back to 20 mg it comes back- so I have to bump back to 60.

ok, I am walking around the majority of the time with nipples that seem erected and a bit hard but not itchy. after administrating dbol it becomes painfully tender and hard.

Question is:
I dropped the Dbol since it appears to increase it. considering that test and dbol are highly aromatizing compunds I wonder if this makes sense.

Should I need this much nolva? I heard of people using 20 not 60 and my dose is really not that high. Do I need something stronger

SHould I be concerned bout my nipples at all? Is it normal that their messed up a bit during the use of AAS? I really wouldn;t wanna end up with nipples that are so juicy that I wanna lick them myself..

Anyways

deleteduser0001
14-03-2009, 05:22 PM
dbol does the same thing to me, its really bad, test does nothing to me.


might be similar compounds but they are not identical and might react differently to you, just like they do with me.

z83
14-03-2009, 05:42 PM
that's the d-bol (looking at a bottle of d-bol give my gyno)
simply drop them (run something safe like tbol or var if you absolutely want an oral)

St
14-03-2009, 06:14 PM
Yep z83 has it right go with t-bol or var,and stay with 20mg nolva's ed.

Dozer1980
14-03-2009, 08:41 PM
does the t-bol put on the mass like d-bol?

St
14-03-2009, 08:45 PM
does the t-bol put on the mass like d-bol?


Ya it very close just less side-effect,i seen many bulk up great with it,no water,or gyno,or zits.Once you try the stuff you will love it 60mg ed.

monkey
14-03-2009, 08:49 PM
No. the gains on T-bol will be slower and less, but the quality appears to be better then the gains on D-bol.
It is better for your hair line, will not create as much water retention ad is less likely to give you gyno since the androgenic activity level of turinabol is lower.

Sounds like a decent drug that will result in less but more maintainable gains... but probably not what your looking for if your after the powerfull and dramatci kick that D-bol gives you...

based on my experience, I'll move away form D-bol for now... but that's just me.

z83
14-03-2009, 08:51 PM
I'm doing 50mg/day and it's fantastic.
I thought I still had gyno symtoms at the beginning but that was all in my head...great stuff

Next time i'll try at over 50mg. The back pump is already insane, can't imagine at 80-100mg :beer

monkey
14-03-2009, 08:52 PM
How does 50 mg of tbol compare to 50 mg of dbol ?

z83
14-03-2009, 09:04 PM
haven't ran dbol more than a week.

Maybe your dose of dbol + 15-20mg ?

edit : imo 50mg of tbol is better than 25mg dbol

nitrous
14-03-2009, 11:01 PM
wouldnt running something like arimidex 1mg EOD help with the bloat from the dbol as well as do something for that gyno?

z83
14-03-2009, 11:35 PM
it did nothing for me, I had to take nolva
it depend how sensitive you are with dbol/drol

AnabolicState
15-03-2009, 05:08 PM
How does 50 mg of tbol compare to 50 mg of dbol ?

Currently running 50mg/day t-bol and loving it. Moderate strength gains, insane pumps, and no noticable sides. Compared to 50mg of d-bol for me personally by now my blood pressure would be sky high, gyno would be horrible, and acne would be forming but strength would be slightly higher, pump about equal, and 90% of the gains would be water. This is my first time running t-bol and I love it. Probably won't use d-bol ever again.