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liquidfire
14-03-2009, 12:20 AM
Hey guys, I'm planning my third cycle. Probably going to be starting mid summer. I'm thinking a pretty basic cycle. I want to throw in some DBol this time since I've never tried it and I've heard some good things from friends. I still have some suspension on hand from my last cycle.

Here's what I'm thinking:

Weeks 1-3: Dbol 40mg/day + 500mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 4-10: 500mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 9-13: 100mg Test Susp/day
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex/day
Weeks 17-18: 20mg Nolvadex/day

Do you guys think I should use the suspension as a front load and save the DBol for the kicker at the end? I'm thinking the suspension would be better at the end because I can stop running the cyp and keep running suspension until it's out of my system and it's time for PCT. I've always been told not to run orals alone... Any opinions on that?

Any advice at all is appreciated!!!

azian257
14-03-2009, 02:43 AM
Weeks 1-4: Dbol 40mg/day + 500mg Test Cyp/week (or 1G Frontload @ week 1- optional)
Weeks 4-10: 500mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 12-14: 100mg Test Susp/day
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex/day
Weeks 17-18: 20mg Nolvadex/day

Cyp's active half life is 12 days so best time to take your susp would be at about 2 weeks after your last cyp injection.

I like taking short esters at the end until the longer ester drugs get outta my system. Just my preference. You could substitute the susp for prop EOD if you get tired injection pain and ED shots.

Anyhow, member your diet and training are more important.

gl :)

liquidfire
14-03-2009, 02:48 AM
Weeks 1-4: Dbol 40mg/day + 500mg Test Cyp/week (or 1G Frontload - optional)
Weeks 4-10: 500mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 12-14: 100mg Test Susp/day
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex/day
Weeks 17-18: 20mg Nolvadex/day

Cyp's active half life is 12 days so best time to take your susp would be at about 2 weeks after your last cyp injection.

I like taking short esters at the end until the longer ester drugs get outta my system. Just my preference. You could substitute the susp for prop EOD if you get tired injection pain and ED shots.

Anyhow, member your diet and training are more important.

gl :)

What's the advantage of starting the suspension once the cypionate is out of my system vs. ending it at the same time as the cypionate leaves my system?

azian257
14-03-2009, 03:38 AM
What's the advantage of starting the suspension once the cypionate is out of my system vs. ending it at the same time as the cypionate leaves my system?



Cypionate Ester - 12 Day Half Life

Day 1 500mgs cypionate

Day 12 250mgs cypionate (This is about time to start susp..to maintain test levels)

Day 24 125mgs cypionate

Day 36 62.5mgs cypionate

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Weeks 4-10: 500mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 9-13: 100mg Test Susp/day

If ya start the susp at week 9, you'll have done 1G+ of test for that week.

Might cause some sides effects for you.

Test levels wont be so spikey if you wait that 2 weeks.

Up to you.

ezturbo
14-03-2009, 12:29 PM
If theres any recommendation I stick to everytime. Use the dbol when the cyp is bumping. Have some patience wait 3-5 weeks, then start abusing the dbol. Your pumps will be insane and youll put on some serious serious size. Ive never used suspension before so I dont have much of a recommendation, your on the right idea with using it at the end while the cyp tapers, BUT alot of people do actually run orals right up to about 2 days before their PCT, which is totally fine. So dont be worried about using it at the end if you want. But like I suggest, use the dbol in the middle of the cycle, front load with 4cc of Cyp (250mg/ml?) at the beggining, and use the suspension whereever, whenever, whyever. Hah enjoy bud.