EO

[Proteinkiller]

I've tried EO and **** with EO wherever I shoot,especially the legs, I get massive charlie horses for days... I thought it was supposed to be less painfull ??...... back to the regular oils for me from now on. Anyone else have this problem with EO?

[D-S]

Hey bro, I think you mean EO vs OIL? unfortunately I think somewhere around 15-20% of people get severe pain from EO, you may be one of the unlucky ones. I could be wrong on that % but I seem to remmber reading that

[ergie]

Yup some people get bad reactions to EO, not me though........ love it

[D-S]

Oil dosed up to 250mg I get no pain at all if its a quality product...EO I get slight discomfort next day, but with high dosed gear I prefer EO

[ergie]

Ya I love the ability to pull it through a 25 gauge

[D-S]

I always load with a 18guage, even with EO, I preload alot and I get impatient so 18ers take about 2 seconds to fill hehe

[Proteinkiller]

I never withdraw with 18g i know guys who have done that and pieces of the stoppers were floating in their vials after so now i only use 23g to withdraw might take longer but its worth it in my eyes .. haha id rather not shoot up some stopper

[D-S]

Fresh stoppers don't break apart easily...just gotta slide it in the right way ya know?

[MIAGIONJUS]

Fresh stoppers don't break apart easily...just gotta slide it in the right way ya know?

agree... never had a problem with stopper getting into vials.... luckily:D

[7 Scape O'Tech]

yea me neither, i've heard it'sa round 5% have reactions. Myself...nothing beats pumping in 400mg of test enan through a slin pin. :)

[Proteinkiller]

haha how long did it take you to push that through a slin pin

[bottleneckblooz]

I've tried EO and **** with EO wherever I shoot,especially the legs, I get massive charlie horses for days... I thought it was supposed to be less painfull ??...... back to the regular oils for me from now on. Anyone else have this problem with EO?

I have the same problem with EO. I wonder if you mix it with some oil based stuff, if it will cause less reaction.

I don't understand why a lab would use EO when it's more expensive, plus, they are cutting themselves out from anywhere from 5-20% of the market.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

haha how long did it take you to push that through a slin pin

Maybe a minute per ml, not that bad at all. I once tried it sub-q based on a study saying it absorbed just as well, man the t400 hurts in the gut, haha, but eq was fine! lol.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

I have the same problem with EO. I wonder if you mix it with some oil based stuff, if it will cause less reaction.

I don't understand why a lab would use EO when it's more expensive, plus, they are cutting themselves out from anywhere from 5-20% of the market.

It does cut them out, but to put it in perspective, it is a higher quality product. I understand what you're saying that if you can't use it at all then it's not higher quality for you. So it's a toss up i suppose. Those that can use it will flock to it since it provides high concentraion gear with no pain, so on paper, they should end up with more users in the long run.

Look at it like this, let's say there's only 2 labs: A+ labs and B- pharms and they each have 500 customers. Then if A+ moves to EO they may in fact now have 800 customers, because that 80-95% of the total population should prefer them over B-.

[St]

I know two people who get pretty sore from the stuff,but then again it's high mg's.I had this problem with EO but then again i did only short esters NPP,and Masteron.But the thin oil goes in great i'm still a fan of EO.

[shithead]

EO was fine for me, I'm natty now but I had no problems before.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

perhaps the labs could try using 50% EO, have any of you guys bottlenoze and others tried a 50% EO and did it have trouble for you as well?

[srt8]

I've seen a few people that reacted to EO and actually thought it was an infection. Had to inform them otherwise!

[bottleneckblooz]

perhaps the labs could try using 50% EO, have any of you guys bottlenoze and others tried a 50% EO and did it have trouble for you as well?

I haven't tried that, but I may try it once I get some oils. I assume you mean cutting it in half with an oil base solution. I was hoping to hear from others that may have found a solution to this problem. Maybe I'll ask around on some of the other boards as well.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

wel either cutting it with another oil... or if there are some labs that perhaps use only a 50% EO carrier.

[RJ*]

wel either cutting it with another oil... or if there are some labs that perhaps use only a 50% EO carrier.

yeah theres one out there that does this for this reason

[7 Scape O'Tech]

hey bro have you found guys that are sensitive to EO can use that gear? Also can they still reach painless 200mg prop, for example...or it's probably a bit of give and take i'd imagine eh?