help me plan cycle 2

[SmallieBigs]

Hey.... still gonna be about a month before I do my next cycle, thought it would be good to get it planned out and ordered now though...
I'm 6', 190 lbs., been liftin' for about 5 years (3 with good diet and knowledge)... 1st cycle was 150mg test prop eod for 9 weeks.... gained about 10 sustainable lbs.... was quiet happy

I have hard time putting on mass on my chest for some reason... just my weak point i guess.... legs, arms and back seem to grow well, chest always has seemed to lag... Hence, looking for more bulk this time around, wanted to add decca... seen and heard of some great results with it.

Never really heard of anyone doing decca with test prop esther... any reason for that?..... hmmmm.... i can't figure out why... but i know i really like prop, so i was thinking maybe

test prop 150mg eod (12 weeks)
decca 400mg weekk (8 weeks)

not sure when to start the pinning for both though, just start both at the same time, and stop the decca about 4 weeks before ending prop??

help would be appreciated....

pct will be nolva for 4 weeks 40/40/20/2o/... some adex on hand as well.... thoughts/ideas/suggestions????

[Diesel_250]

I would say that prop and deca don't normal get run together because prop needs to get pinned EOD and you only need to pin deca once a week. Have you looked at running NPP instead of the deca? What are your goals for this cycle? how do you feel about test e?

[theboss]

yeah..i would swap the prop for test E or C...so you dont pin EOD...mix them and inject 2x perweek...get some HCG & Clomid for PCT...keep the Nolva for gyno flair ups

[Diesel_250]

yeah..i would swap the prop for test E or C...so you dont pin EOD...mix them and inject 2x perweek...get some HCG & Clomid for PCT...keep the Nolva for gyno flair ups


I personally like EQ over deca but I agree with the test E 2 x per week.

I would run something like this

1-15 test E 500mg/wk
1-14 EQ or Deca 400-450mg/wk
1mg adex EOD

[SmallieBigs]

thanks for the replies so far....

as for NPP... don't think i can easily get my paws on it... decca always being abailable from my source...

test C or E may be what i end up doing... i don't mind the eod injects of prop, and like how quickly it gets in my system :)

will pick up some clomid as well, possibly some hcg as well.... hcg: over the last year or so, i see more people on boards saying to use this.... would it really be needed for this cycle? should i just keep it on hand and use it if i need it, or use it as a precaution?

opinions are thanked and welcomed, keep 'em comin' lol

[SmallieBigs]

oh ya....

Goals.... put on some good size and strength.... ideally about 15-20 lbs. would be great... lol.... goal of getting to around 195-200 ripped for summer, from 190 (with about 10 lbs. of xtra fat).... i hope it's doable, although i may have delusions of grandeur.... quite possible lol

[SmallieBigs]

Kind of a bump... but was just wondering if adding some d-bol at the start or anavar at the end would be a good idea...??? i think it would :sup

[Crankin'steiN]

How long has it been since your first cycle??

The reason prop isn't run with deca is because one is a short ester and one is a long and normally you would run short esters together and long together just because of injection frequency and timing....

This will be cycle number two correct?? You may want to consider just test alone again like the first time... Keep it simple and maybe up the dosage a little bit just to make sure you get the results you want or keep same dose as last time and see how it goes....

If you are set on adding a second compound then deca is a good choice but it makes more sense to use a short ester nandrolone (NPP) if you really want to use prop but personally I get sick of pinning EOD for a whole cycle so if doing test and deca I would choose long esters and go with deca and test E or Cyp for the cycle and then you only need to inject twice a week...

Dbol is a good choice but since your only on cycle two I don't think there is a need to run 3 compounds right now and you would be better off with running test and deca then test and dbol... You don't want to add too many things at once or you won't know whats doing what....

[waderow]

npp is nandrolone in a phenyl propianate ester.... take it instead of nandrolone decanoate

[varking]

try alittle something like this
test e 1-15 weeks 500mg per week
eq 1-15 weeks 600mg per week
add some tbol at 40mg per day to kickstart or you could even add prop to kickstart.
with test e over prop you have less pokes to do what is always a plus in my books and with the same effect as prop..

[SmallieBigs]

Lots of great advice guys, thanks... I'll start a new thread and log when I've actually stared this cycle (another month or so).... Looks like I have a few decisions to make 1st though... lol...

Again, thanks to all the replies and help... :troll (sorry, but that guy is awesome..)