Questions regarding next cycle

[wabbims]

I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle next month, and this is what I've got so far:

Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp - 500mg per week
Weeks 1-5 Dbol 40mg every day
Weeks 14-16 PCT: Nolva, Clomid

I also have some proviron left over from my previous cycle,
but only about 5 or 6 weeks worth, so my first question is would it be more beneficial to run the proviron at the beginning of my cycle along with the dbol, or for the last few weeks running into my pct?

Second question is regarding the Test Cyp. I've never done Test Cyp before, I've always gone with sustanon, but I got a good deal on the cyp. What can I expect from the test cyp that is different from sustanon? I've read that it causes more bloating, side effects, etc, and that it takes longer to kick in, but I would like some actual opinions from people who have done it.

Thanks bros

[gustavo77]

Honestly, proviron does very little for me with regards to estrogen. I am very sensitive to estrogen and always use a real aromatase inhibitor ie; arimidex, aromasin or letro. The thing is that proviron does not lower estrogen as some people believe, it merely competes with estrogen at binding at the receptor. So if you are sensitive to estrogen related sides i suggest you get some adex or aromasin and use it daily. As far as test cyp causing more bloat then other forms of test, i believe that to be a load of crap. Bloating is generally caused by high estrogen levels, which again can controlled by the use of an A.I. As far as what you can expect from test cyp compared to sust is: more stable blood levels of the hormone (that is if you used sust less frequently than eod) and excellent gains. For most people test C will kick in fully in aprox 4-5 weeks. To me test is test, it is just a different pinning protocol between the esters, ie test E and C- 2x per week, test prop- ed or eod, sust or omna- eod.

[germanbeast]

The sideeffects are usually higher on Susta because of the up and downs of the blood level.

However your 12 week cycle ist to short for testo c because as mentioned from gustavo it really start to work after 5 weeks and that would be almost the middle of your cycle. Minimum cycle period on long ester should be 16weeks.

[ergie]

I would save the proviron and only use it if your having problems with your noodle, wouldn't use it during PCT because it will slow recovery because it does inhibit your HPTA. As GB said cyp will have less sides because of more constant blood levels, IMO a 12 weeks cycle is fine you should see good results.

[MIAGIONJUS]

I agree, ive ran test c for 12 weeks at a time and had amazing results with it, althought some guys at my gym run it for 16 weeks and have good results that way too

[wabbims]

I only have so much of the cyp, so would it be better to go with 500mg per week for 12 weeks, or 400mg per week for 16?

[germanbeast]

I would go for 400mg and 16weeks.

[slick rick]

I just finished this exact same cycle ( except test E ). My PCT is the same as the one you listed as well, im in my 2nd week. I had great results with this cycle, I put on 30 lbs., first cycle mind you.

[7 Scape O'Tech]

damn good results bro, well done!

[wabbims]

30 lbs, wow - you must have been doing some serious eating bro! :D
I'll be quite happy if I gain between 15 - 20

[R.F.S.]

Get rid of the d-bol! If you've done more than 3 cycles up your test dosage to 750mgs for the first couple of weeks and see how you respond to it. If you think that it's too much lower the dosage back to 500mgs. I know soime might disagree but i'm just giving you advice on what has worked for me in the past. I don't like d-bol it just makes you bloated. Sustanon will give you more sides because it has different esters in it. If you really want to use proviron, use it near the end of your cycle. I would personally end your cycle by lowering the dosages week by week (tapering) and adding the proviron which some think that it helps with recovery. I personally taper off a cycle and add 3g of tribulus/day for 3 weeks, it seems to work for me.