post injection, shoulder is burning

[Dk]

its not the post injection pain thats the next day, that one feels more like a big bruise.

this is literally right after, i injected 1ml tren and 1ml test all in one shot.

so it was a 2 cc shot, which is bigger then my usual, have never gone over 1.5cc, and that caused minor discomfort.

Anyways, it is just like a "hot" sharp pain, probably just from the size of the shot eh?

im not to worried about it cuz im pretty sure its just from the extra volume of the shot im not used to yet, but i figured its not like making a thread asking is gonna hurt.

[tex]

if it gets hot and you start a fever then you go see the doc.....i think it'll be fine tho

[Namelessone]

Well first of all your shoulders may not be big enough to handle the 2cc bro.
You may have hit a nerve which I find causes a burning sensation. It shouldnt last more than a few minutes though so if its lasting longer then chances are your shoulders simply can't handle 2cc.

I would mix 1/2cc of Test and 1/2 cc Tren into one syringe and do the same with a second. Then inject into each shoulder. Your shoulders will be much happier with you man...

[z83]

I find heating the area I injected right after the shot help a LOT

[Namelessone]

I find heating the area I injected right after the shot help a LOT

Yes in most cases this helps because your bringing blood to the muscles to transport the gear quicker. Some test such as Propionate this can actually cause more pain. The blood would transport the oil quicker than the propionate ester because prop crystallizes in your muscle. This is why prop has a habit of hurting people because the crystals are sharp and poke at the muscle fibers. Injecting propionate too quickly can actually tear your muscles because it crystallizes on contact. Using a wet heat such as a hot water bottle rather than a dry heat from a heating pad can be a lot more help with dissolving the crystals.

[Kronis]

Yes in most cases this helps because your bringing blood to the muscles to transport the gear quicker. Some test such as Propionate this can actually cause more pain. The blood would transport the oil quicker than the propionate ester because prop crystallizes in your muscle. This is why prop has a habit of hurting people because the crystals are sharp and poke at the muscle fibers. Injecting propionate too quickly can actually tear your muscles because it crystallizes on contact. Using a wet heat such as a hot water bottle rather than a dry heat from a heating pad can be a lot more help with dissolving the crystals.

wow, cool info. I did not know that.

[Dk]

hurt a little at the gym, pretty much gone now though.

[ezturbo]

When I started pinning 5* tren a in the shoulder, if I moved my arm the wrong way this insane burn would start coming from the area, and would disapate slowly. After bout the 3rd time it ****ed off. Stick with it lol.

[Dk]

When I started pinning 5* tren a in the shoulder, if I moved my arm the wrong way this insane burn would start coming from the area, and would disapate slowly. After bout the 3rd time it ****ed off. Stick with it lol.

thats exactly how it was, only when i move it up or whatever.

and yah, i never planned on stopping, i was just curious

howwd ya like the 5* tren ace anyway

[ezturbo]

thats exactly how it was, only when i move it up or whatever.

and yah, i never planned on stopping, i was just curious

howwd ya like the 5* tren ace anyway

**** man. Like houston said, liquid gold you grow like crazy and get really fat veins. You can get away with eating your garbage lol. Make sure you have some caber, I didnt for the longest time and my nips got this weird puff to them, went away when I started caber and letro, but yeah, horrible. Even if you low dose it, better be safe then sorry.

[DRDOOM]

You look big enough to handle 2cc's. Make sure your hitting the sweet

and aspirate and shoot slow. Like namelessone said if it's prop your gonna

feel some pain most of the time depending on the lab.


DRDOOM

[Dk]

**** man. Like houston said, liquid gold you grow like crazy and get really fat veins. You can get away with eating your garbage lol. Make sure you have some caber, I didnt for the longest time and my nips got this weird puff to them, went away when I started caber and letro, but yeah, horrible. Even if you low dose it, better be safe then sorry.

good, because i dont think i can part with my 2-4 macdonalds double cheeseburgers a day haha.

and i have plenty of nolva and adex on hand, if shit gets bad ill maybe low dose letro. ill cross that bridge when i come to it though.

How long till you started feelin it in full? Ive never used an acetate ester before

[Houstonbc]

good, because i dont think i can part with me 2-4 macdonalds double cheeseburgers a day haha

you sick ****!

[Dk]

you sick ****!

1100mg sodium per burger.

i just noticed that today, i almost shit myself haha.

ive only paid attention to the 24g protein, 430 calories, 23g fat, 26g? carbs.

makes for a nice little snack... x4

the sodium isnt gonna help with keeping me dry though haha

[ezturbo]

good, because i dont think i can part with me 2-4 macdonalds double cheeseburgers a day haha.

and i have plenty of nolva and adex on hand, if shit gets bad ill maybe low dose letro. ill cross that bridge when i come to it though.

How long till you started feelin it in full? Ive never used an acetate ester before

Just so you know, nolva and adex will pretty do **** all for fina gyno. It comes on hard man, even if your nolva is binding to the nip receptors, letro will take care of the progesterone/estro, but the prolactin buildup can cause puffyness and lactation which can only be stopped by dostinex/caber, even with the abscence of estro, gyno can still form. Ive even heard rumours that nolva can actually make fina gyno worse. It took alot of drugs to get mine under control haha.

That shit kicks in hard about the 4-5 day. You stop being able to breath but you can beast anything, strength is innnsannee. Veins start getting gigantic bout week 2. Week 3 you dont even recognize yourself, your just some jacked cut up monster.

I dont think Ill ever skip using tren in a cycle again. It bulks you and cuts you up at the same time. With zero cardio. Sorta cheap :P.

Enjoy the sides though. I didnt get night sweats till the end, but the 5-6 hours sleep a night starts to get managable. Try to avoid idiots, your usual tolerance for them is completely hindered. And acne.. Wow.. Brutal. Wear your big guy shirts for awhile. No beaters.

Youll ****in love it man.... and hate it :P.

[Dk]

Just so you know, nolva and adex will pretty do **** all for fina gyno. It comes on hard man, even if your nolva is binding to the nip receptors, letro will take care of the progesterone/estro, but the prolactin buildup can cause puffyness and lactation which can only be stopped by dostinex/caber, even with the abscence of estro, gyno can still form. Ive even heard rumours that nolva can actually make fina gyno worse. It took alot of drugs to get mine under control haha.

That shit kicks in hard about the 4-5 day. You stop being able to breath but you can beast anything, strength is innnsannee. Veins start getting gigantic bout week 2. Week 3 you dont even recognize yourself, your just some jacked cut up monster.

I dont think Ill ever skip using tren in a cycle again. It bulks you and cuts you up at the same time. With zero cardio. Sorta cheap :P.

Enjoy the sides though. I didnt get night sweats till the end, but the 5-6 hours sleep a night starts to get managable. Try to avoid idiots, your usual tolerance for them is completely hindered.

Youll ****in love it man.... and hate it :P.

well seeing as how i only 'naturally' got 5-6 hours of sleep a night, and already had a short temper, this should be fun haha.

what would you suggest i dose caber at incase of sides? ive honestly never really looked into the stuff

[ezturbo]

Caber is pretty hardcore. Completely stops prolactin. Doses around 1000-2000mcg every 3 days will stop prolactin completely. If you take 500mcg every 3 days while on cycle, this will keep things veeeeerrry managable, and you wont even have to worry.

The main problem with gyno and tren is your never really sure which it is. Estro or prolactin caused. Since tren is 3 times stronger binding to the receptors, theres alot more 'free test' floating around to aromatise. So it can be estro caused or prolactin caused. So if you try to maintain it from the beggining, your likely better off.

[Houstonbc]

Letro is more than enough if you even need it if you are super sensitive hit the dostinex,

[Diesel_250]

do you airlock when you pin? I started do it awhile back and I find that it has helped with larger shots.

[ezturbo]

Letro is more than enough if you even need it if you are super sensitive hit the dostinex,

Who ya callin super sensitive there houston. Huh. HUH. Hah jk.

[varking]

do you airlock when you pin? I started do it awhile back and I find that it has helped with larger shots.

Airlock?? not sure what this is could someone help a bro out ahah

[Dk]

Airlock?? not sure what this is could someone help a bro out ahah

im in the same boat, wtf is this haha

[Kronis]

I think an air lock is where you inject a mL or 2 of air behind the liquid.

edit LOL, yeah, i meant 0.1 or 0.2 mL.

[Houstonbc]

not a ml maybe like .1 ml

[Dk]

hmm, might give this a try.

whats it do anyway?

[Kronis]

I just do it because that's how I was taught to do injections. It ensures that you get all the "medicine" out of the syringe and is supposed to help prevent it from leaking back to the Sub-Q layer. I also z-track whenever I can.

[Dk]

I just do it because that's how I was taught to do injections. It ensures that you get all the "medicine" out of the syringe and is supposed to help prevent it from leaking back to the Sub-Q layer. I also z-track whenever I can.

hmm that actually does make sense, as little as it is. the 0.1ml thats lost in the needle annoys the hell outta me.

ive always been taught if you inject air, you die haha. i spend like a minute just flicking the needle and poppin all the air bubbles out

[Kronis]

hmm that actually does make sense, as little as it is. the 0.1ml thats lost in the needle annoys the hell outta me.

ive always been taught if you inject air, you die haha. i spend like a minute just flicking the needle and poppin all the air bubbles out

lol, i think i read somewhere that it takes several mL of air directly into the bloodstream to cause a heart attack.

I only inject .7mL so I want to make sure every drip of that stuff gets into my muscle. 0.1 mL changes it from 490/week to 420/week. I'm a little compulsive haha.

[IronManMuscle]

I agree with a lot that has been said,. 2cc for the delts is a probably a little too much. I had the same experience at that amount I seem to be okay with 1-1.5cc.... with just some minor swelling which makes my delts look bigger anyway.

IronmanMuscle


its not the post injection pain thats the next day, that one feels more like a big bruise.

this is literally right after, i injected 1ml tren and 1ml test all in one shot.

so it was a 2 cc shot, which is bigger then my usual, have never gone over 1.5cc, and that caused minor discomfort.

Anyways, it is just like a "hot" sharp pain, probably just from the size of the shot eh?

im not to worried about it cuz im pretty sure its just from the extra volume of the shot im not used to yet, but i figured its not like making a thread asking is gonna hurt.

[natenator]

I've found I can put about 2.5CC in my delts without issue.