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jsv22
03-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Hey Guys,

i'm planning my 2nd cycle and i was looking for some opinions,

my first cycle was 325mg/week of 9* test c for 10 weeks.....i ended up going from 210-225 and got strong as hell..

I'm looking to do about the same amount of test, maybe up it to 500mg/week, and add in a compound or two.

i'm considering

500mg test/week for 12 weeks
var at 40mg ED for 12 weeks
tbol at 30mg ED for 6 weeks

opinions?

Thanks

-jsv

gustavo77
03-03-2009, 07:30 PM
What are your goals for this cycle?

Dk
03-03-2009, 07:42 PM
what about instead of 12 straight weeks of orals.

how about first 6 tbol.

4 off,

then last 4 var (last 2 weeks of cycle and the 2 weeks upto pct)

tex
03-03-2009, 07:46 PM
^^ good idea.....his liver will thank you

Kilburn
03-03-2009, 07:46 PM
how do you like 9*?

it sounds fuking awesome, but i cant really afford it right now.

for the cycle ditch the var and do

deca/test/tbol

natenator
03-03-2009, 07:49 PM
how do you like 9*?

it sounds fuking awesome, but i cant really afford it right now.

for the cycle ditch the var and do

deca/test/tbol
that is my next one which should be starting any day now... 15 weeks.

Dk
03-03-2009, 07:50 PM
how do you like 9*?

it sounds fuking awesome, but i cant really afford it right now.

for the cycle ditch the var and do

deca/test/tbol

i like the deca/test/tbol thing to.

i was just commenting under the assumption you decided on test and var and tbol.

500mg test 1-12
300mg deca 1-10
30-50mg Tbol either at the start, end or both. but i still wouldnt go the whole 12 like you were gonna

theboss
03-03-2009, 07:50 PM
i would just increase the test to 500-600mg for 12 weeks...leave the orals out if you responded well to that fairly low dose of 325mg. try orals next time.

jsv22
03-03-2009, 10:09 PM
What are your goals for this cycle?

I'm planning on a lean bulk, hoping for a solid 10-12lbs

jsv22
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
what about instead of 12 straight weeks of orals.

how about first 6 tbol.

4 off,

then last 4 var (last 2 weeks of cycle and the 2 weeks upto pct)

Thanks for your reply,

i wasn't too worried about var as it relatively non toxic, if i did decide to run both i would get liver enzymes checked around week 6-8..

i hear tbol isn't that toxic either...didn't east german athletes take it for years?

jsv22
03-03-2009, 10:14 PM
how do you like 9*?

it sounds fuking awesome, but i cant really afford it right now.

for the cycle ditch the var and do

deca/test/tbol

9* is some pretty sweet stuff, never really had any issues other then some bad var a friend got about 2 years ago..

shots were always smooth as silk, no pain no nothing...my buddy who tried their prop said it was the best prop he'd done since QFS prop...
only prob with 9* is that they are PRICEY,

if i end up throwing var in like i said, i may have to take out another student loan LOL

thanks for all the replys

nitrous
04-03-2009, 12:22 AM
is 9* in+7* ??

if that makes sense lol

St
04-03-2009, 12:29 AM
Thanks for your reply,

i wasn't too worried about var as it relatively non toxic, if i did decide to run both i would get liver enzymes checked around week 6-8..

i hear tbol isn't that toxic either...didn't east german athletes take it for years?

Yes it is toxic,but they got 11 weeks before there liver and Kidney's would have stress compare to 8 weeks of d-bol in there studies.The ones that were on for long cycles had health problems.

jsv22
04-03-2009, 09:01 AM
is 9* in+7* ??

if that makes sense lol

lol ya man i think you got it haha
it's been around for years, they went private about 2 years back (i think it's been 2 years)..there's a few random pics of some of their gear in the pic section..

-jsv

jsv22
04-03-2009, 09:02 AM
Yes it is toxic,but they got 11 weeks before there liver and Kidney's would have stress compare to 8 weeks of d-bol in there studies.The ones that were on for long cycles had health problems.

thanks for your input St. do you know where i can get a hold of this data ?

i would love to see some of that old research,

-jsv

nitrous
04-03-2009, 11:09 AM
lol ya man i think you got it haha
it's been around for years, they went private about 2 years back (i think it's been 2 years)..there's a few random pics of some of their gear in the pic section..

-jsv

lol okay yeah i have some at my house.. 9* test e that i am going to be doing in a month.. have a buddy on some rigth now..

also regarding there var i have done that as well and i got good results from it

jsv22
04-03-2009, 12:46 PM
lol okay yeah i have some at my house.. 9* test e that i am going to be doing in a month.. have a buddy on some rigth now..

also regarding there var i have done that as well and i got good results from it

ya that stuff is smooth as silk man, no pain no nothing....the same with the prop,

good lab, damn pricey though

nitrous
04-03-2009, 01:11 PM
ya that stuff is smooth as silk man, no pain no nothing....the same with the prop,

good lab, damn pricey though

yeah it was a little pricey.. the var was for sure.. the test e came in 15ml vials though so it wasnt that much more..

good to hear it goes in well.. will be my first injection:beer

jsv22
04-03-2009, 03:47 PM
yeah it was a little pricey.. the var was for sure.. the test e came in 15ml vials though so it wasnt that much more..

good to hear it goes in well.. will be my first injection:beer

ya the var is very pricey! lol

but the test e is absolutely painless bro, have fun :bch