Why did this cycle work SO well?

[td1111]

3 years ago I did my first cycle (12 weeks). I chose:

Primobolan 400mg/wk
EQ 400mg/wk
Var 40mg/day
Arimidex 0.25/day

Now many people would insist on adding in some Test to feel better because of suppression. At the time, I did not know this, but I felt 100% fine on this cycle! And PCT was like nothing! I gained 20-30 lbs and 1" on my calves and biceps(after years of natural training for almost no gains)

I've since done 3 cycles, using combos such as Test/EQ/Dbol, Test/Tren, etc, and every single time I have ended up on a roller coaster forced to use anti-aromatase drugs, and trying to find a balance between puffy nipples and feel thrashed from low estrogen.

I'm wondering about the first cycle.. did the 0.25 of Arimidex/day keep my Test levels in range the whole time? Why did I feel so "normal" with NO side effects, yet enjoyed such amazing gains? I'm feeling like I will have to use this cycle only from now on, but I really did like the results of cutting with Test/Tren, and would not want to have to use EQ on a cutting cycle because of hunger.

Any other good cutting cycle options that don't require Test or Anti-E's?

[Kronis]

Just run that same cycle again. Bump it to 600/600/60 if you don't think the doses will work anymore or run keep it at 400/400/40 and add test @ 250.

[Kilburn]

it worked so well because it was your first. everyone gains like 20 pounds on their first.

[HardWood]

First cycles.....sublime...but listen to you body itts giving you signals as to what works best for for you. Theres lots of advice but if you think hard you'll know what to do.

[MoooBaby]

Maybe the Key is to just onoly ever do one cycle, just don' tend it.

[natenator]

it worked so well because it was your first. everyone gains like 20 pounds on their first.
so you started gassing at like 160lbs or something?

[Praetorian]

3 years ago I did my first cycle (12 weeks). I chose:

Primobolan 400mg/wk
EQ 400mg/wk
Var 40mg/day
Arimidex 0.25/day

Now many people would insist on adding in some Test to feel better because of suppression. At the time, I did not know this, but I felt 100% fine on this cycle! And PCT was like nothing! I gained 20-30 lbs and 1" on my calves and biceps(after years of natural training for almost no gains)

I've since done 3 cycles, using combos such as Test/EQ/Dbol, Test/Tren, etc, and every single time I have ended up on a roller coaster forced to use anti-aromatase drugs, and trying to find a balance between puffy nipples and feel thrashed from low estrogen.

I'm wondering about the first cycle.. did the 0.25 of Arimidex/day keep my Test levels in range the whole time? Why did I feel so "normal" with NO side effects, yet enjoyed such amazing gains? I'm feeling like I will have to use this cycle only from now on, but I really did like the results of cutting with Test/Tren, and would not want to have to use EQ on a cutting cycle because of hunger.

Any other good cutting cycle options that don't require Test or Anti-E's?

It worked so well because it was your first. The bad news is your next cycles will never feel like the first one...its like chasing a rainbow. The arimidex was unecessary and probably messed up your blood lipid profiles for some time...being young you are lucky as they will bounce back quite fast...and no it did not keep your test levels up. EQ doesnt cause hunger in everyone its individualistic so you wont know unless you try it cutting. Using the compounds for your first cycle will eventually shut you down and will require more aggressive PCT everytime you do a cycle. As well...DO NOT increase the dose and think it will be the same as the first...all you will do is shut down endo test production quicker and feel worse. The thing you need to realize is that there is a tradeoff for what you want to gain etc and what is required to normalize afterwards. If you are not competing then a small dose of var will work nicely for cutting ...you really dont need much more than that except a good diet/training/cardio plan. Once you go the test/tren route you will requite more aggressive PCT to normalize quickly and retain any gains.
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[Kilburn]

so you started gassing at like 160lbs or something?

no, 175.

still waiting for your pictures

[natenator]

no, 175.

still waiting for your pictures
search around. there is one floating. One of my first 10-15 posts here. Let's see if yuou can beat it.

[BDH]

Praetorian knows his stuff...

[Kilburn]

It worked so well because it was your first. The bad news is your next cycles will never feel like the first one...its like chasing a rainbow. The arimidex was unecessary and probably messed up your blood lipid profiles for some time...being young you are lucky as they will bounce back quite fast...and no it did not keep your test levels up. EQ doesnt cause hunger in everyone its individualistic so you wont know unless you try it cutting. Using the compounds for your first cycle will eventually shut you down and will require more aggressive PCT everytime you do a cycle. As well...DO NOT increase the dose and think it will be the same as the first...all you will do is shut down endo test production quicker and feel worse. The thing you need to realize is that there is a tradeoff for what you want to gain etc and what is required to normalize afterwards. If you are not competing then a small dose of var will work nicely for cutting ...you really dont need much more than that except a good diet/training/cardio plan. Once you go the test/tren route you will requite more aggressive PCT to normalize quickly and retain any gains.
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what if you went off for a year and stopped working out too, lost most of your gains. but then you started working out and cycling again.

wouldnt you gain like 20-30 pounds really quickly? plus muscle memory too? so it would be sort of like a first cycle all over again right?

[Rhinobolt10]

ha, I barely gained anything off of my first cycle... but since then I've done some great ones...

[natenator]

Praetorian knows his stuff...
Werd!

So do you actually ...

[Praetorian]

what if you went off for a year and stopped working out too, lost most of your gains. but then you started working out and cycling again.

wouldnt you gain like 20-30 pounds really quickly? plus muscle memory too? so it would be sort of like a first cycle all over again right?

No not really...nice idea though.
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