winny vs dbol

[Dk]

Im helping my buddy plan his first cycle, and im not sure if i should put him on winny for leaner gains, or dbol for the strength and pump.

normally id say dbol, but i know he doesnt want the bloat.

Im thinking he can suck it up and just go with the dbol.


but for the sake of argument. How does the pump winny gives compare to the pump dbol gives? Gains comparison? Strength comparison?

[varking]

If I was you I would tell him to use tbol good pumps and no bloat. Also lean gains

[Dk]

If I was you I would tell him to use tbol good pumps and no bloat. Also lean gains

this would be the choice hands down.

No tbol in stock though with my guy, not a big deal, not lookin to or interested in dealing with anyone else. So its down to either win or dbol

[varking]

this would be the choice hands down.

No tbol in stock though with my guy, not a big deal, not lookin to or interested in dealing with anyone else. So its down to either win or dbol

well then I would go with dbol as winnie is alittle harder on sides then dbol. It being his first cycle you don`t know what side he will get soo dbol and test is my pick...

[Kronis]

How lean is he?

I'm 3 weeks into my 20mg/day dbol right now and I have no face or stomach bloat; just strength and pumps.

[Dk]

How lean is he?

I'm 3 weeks into my 20mg/day dbol right now and I have no face or stomach bloat; just strength and pumps.

hes about 6'4 200lbs.

hes got an average body, honestly hes not ready, he doesnt even goto the gym regularly, he said he'll start once he gets on cycle, i know, :wtf , he wants to juice because i do.

But whatever, he made up his mind. if hes gonna then i might as well help him out so he can do it right

im actually only gonna put him on like 400mg of test i think, gonna forget about the oral.

i was actually wondering about the dbol vs winny thing myself to.

and before you guys throw all the dont let him cycle comments at me, i know, whatever though, his life.

he has a good diet and tries to goto the gym, he just always quits though, im pretty sure he is just using gear as an excuse to get himself to the gym.

whatever though, his choice

[varking]

His life he can do it... not like he is 6`4 170lbs ahahah anyways help him do it right thats what A good freind would o

[tex]

you should just give him some b12 shots and tell him its test......then watch and laugh at him be a goof.......or 400mg of test......id say its a tossup

[ezturbo]

Whoa that buddys potential isn't even near, 6'4 you could easily stack 260. I'm not saying I started juicing after I reached a plateau or max potential or anything at all, but I wish I had waited. On proper protein supplementation and eatting everything in sight, you can get mad beast, mad quick. Probably faster then juice too. If you don't think he's ready go with that judgement. Shut him down. When he's done his own research he'll know what he wants. He'll thankyou later.

Ps, pinning is the only healthy way to go. Noons likes it but hey, you pay to play.

[tex]

dbols with test for the win....tell him to man the **** up and get his diet on track and he wont bloat like a fat ****ing ****