ergie
21-08-2007, 09:41 AM
Saw this post on VIP and thought I'd share.........
Directly from SRCS themselves
QUOTE
To Whom It May Concern:
Assay of steroidal components usually falls into the regular HPLC analysis
billing, which is $100.00 USD per sample. We must know the SPECIFIC
compound the sample is to analyzed for to achieve accurate test results.
However, any steroidal or pro-hormone substance that has no available
standard, such as one of the new THP ether's, the price is a minimum of
$150.00 USD for identification by LC/MS per component.
Also, if the standard for your sample is very expensive, such as
4-hydroxytestosterone, you will also be charged for all costs involved in
obtaining the standard.
As for protein-based hormones, such as somatotropin or HGH, we are unable to
analyze these at this time.
Single component steroidal compounds (oxymetholone, testosterone and its
various esters, boldenone undecylenate, etc.) are regular analyses, and
assay is $100.00 USD per sample. Blended compounds with two components are
$170.00 USD and those with four components, such as Sustanon or Omnadren are
$250.00 USD per sample.
We have no preferred shipping method, although UPS, FedEx, DHL, and the USPS
are all fine choices.
Please send more than 1 gram total weight (liquid, solid, or tablet) per
sample. Typical turn-around times are 7-14 days, but no guarantee is made
without securing RUSH payment prior to analysis. Please contact us for
details.
Please include any specific instructions you feel are needed for sample
preparation and handling, as well as personal contact information (email or
fax #). If you would like a signed hardcopy of the report on a company
letterhead, please include a mailing address as well. All analytical
results will be reported as they become available via email or fax.
Our clients personal privacy is of the utmost importance to us, so rest
assured, any information regarding test results of any analysis preformed by
San Rafael Chemical Services as well as personal identification, address,
billing, etc. will remain confidential and only be disclosed to a third
party at our clients request.
Thank you,
Joe Larsen
Now for my own bit:
There's a way to save a bunch of money on these tests. IF it is done right, we can test a lot more products for the same money. How? Note that SRCS charges $100 per single steroid identification, but $250 for a four product identification. Well, if we accurately mix EQUAL amounts of four different (single) steroids, we can quickly figure out if they're all good or if any of them need further investigation.
Procedure
OK, for example, let's say we've got the following products we want to test:
A. Testosterone propionate @ 200mg/ml
B. Trenbolone enanthate @ 200mg/ml
C. Nandrolone decanoate (Deca) @ 300mg/ml
D. Boldenone undecylenate (EQ) @ 400mg/ml
Step #1 - Warm and shake/swirl each of the original vials to ensure even product distribution (this shouldn't be necessary, but it is a precaution).
Step #2 - Use a insulin pin to measure EXACTLY EQUAL amounts and transfer to a fresh vial. If we don't use EXACTLY EQUAL amounts, we could easily screw up the test.
Step #3 - Warm and shake/swirl the resulting mixture.
Step #4 - Send the vial off to SRCS for testing, along with $250.
OK, we get the results back, and let's say they look like this:
A. Testosterone propionate = 45mg/ml
multiply that by FOUR, since only 1/4 of your mix was testosterone propionate.
45mg/ml x 4 = 180mg/ml, but it is supposed to be 200mg/ml,
so that's 10% underdosed.
B. Trenbolone enanthate = 50mg/ml, x4=200mg/ml, dead on
C. Deca = 80mg/ml, x4=320mg/ml, 6.7% overdosed
D. EQ = 75mg/ml, x4=300mg/ml, 25% underdosed
This four in one test saves us $150 ($250 instead of $400). If all of them come back good, it is extremely unlikely that the good results are by accident, or as a result of you mixing the products together. 4 for 4 means we're dealing with a damned good lab. So we should let a mod know about those results too.
Speaking of which, if a lab produces a product that is 5% underdosed, but 10% overfilled, that isn't the end of the world, it's basically the same as being being perfectly accurately dosed and filled, the label is a bit off, but there is also more product than you thought you paid for.
Strateg0s
Directly from SRCS themselves
QUOTE
To Whom It May Concern:
Assay of steroidal components usually falls into the regular HPLC analysis
billing, which is $100.00 USD per sample. We must know the SPECIFIC
compound the sample is to analyzed for to achieve accurate test results.
However, any steroidal or pro-hormone substance that has no available
standard, such as one of the new THP ether's, the price is a minimum of
$150.00 USD for identification by LC/MS per component.
Also, if the standard for your sample is very expensive, such as
4-hydroxytestosterone, you will also be charged for all costs involved in
obtaining the standard.
As for protein-based hormones, such as somatotropin or HGH, we are unable to
analyze these at this time.
Single component steroidal compounds (oxymetholone, testosterone and its
various esters, boldenone undecylenate, etc.) are regular analyses, and
assay is $100.00 USD per sample. Blended compounds with two components are
$170.00 USD and those with four components, such as Sustanon or Omnadren are
$250.00 USD per sample.
We have no preferred shipping method, although UPS, FedEx, DHL, and the USPS
are all fine choices.
Please send more than 1 gram total weight (liquid, solid, or tablet) per
sample. Typical turn-around times are 7-14 days, but no guarantee is made
without securing RUSH payment prior to analysis. Please contact us for
details.
Please include any specific instructions you feel are needed for sample
preparation and handling, as well as personal contact information (email or
fax #). If you would like a signed hardcopy of the report on a company
letterhead, please include a mailing address as well. All analytical
results will be reported as they become available via email or fax.
Our clients personal privacy is of the utmost importance to us, so rest
assured, any information regarding test results of any analysis preformed by
San Rafael Chemical Services as well as personal identification, address,
billing, etc. will remain confidential and only be disclosed to a third
party at our clients request.
Thank you,
Joe Larsen
Now for my own bit:
There's a way to save a bunch of money on these tests. IF it is done right, we can test a lot more products for the same money. How? Note that SRCS charges $100 per single steroid identification, but $250 for a four product identification. Well, if we accurately mix EQUAL amounts of four different (single) steroids, we can quickly figure out if they're all good or if any of them need further investigation.
Procedure
OK, for example, let's say we've got the following products we want to test:
A. Testosterone propionate @ 200mg/ml
B. Trenbolone enanthate @ 200mg/ml
C. Nandrolone decanoate (Deca) @ 300mg/ml
D. Boldenone undecylenate (EQ) @ 400mg/ml
Step #1 - Warm and shake/swirl each of the original vials to ensure even product distribution (this shouldn't be necessary, but it is a precaution).
Step #2 - Use a insulin pin to measure EXACTLY EQUAL amounts and transfer to a fresh vial. If we don't use EXACTLY EQUAL amounts, we could easily screw up the test.
Step #3 - Warm and shake/swirl the resulting mixture.
Step #4 - Send the vial off to SRCS for testing, along with $250.
OK, we get the results back, and let's say they look like this:
A. Testosterone propionate = 45mg/ml
multiply that by FOUR, since only 1/4 of your mix was testosterone propionate.
45mg/ml x 4 = 180mg/ml, but it is supposed to be 200mg/ml,
so that's 10% underdosed.
B. Trenbolone enanthate = 50mg/ml, x4=200mg/ml, dead on
C. Deca = 80mg/ml, x4=320mg/ml, 6.7% overdosed
D. EQ = 75mg/ml, x4=300mg/ml, 25% underdosed
This four in one test saves us $150 ($250 instead of $400). If all of them come back good, it is extremely unlikely that the good results are by accident, or as a result of you mixing the products together. 4 for 4 means we're dealing with a damned good lab. So we should let a mod know about those results too.
Speaking of which, if a lab produces a product that is 5% underdosed, but 10% overfilled, that isn't the end of the world, it's basically the same as being being perfectly accurately dosed and filled, the label is a bit off, but there is also more product than you thought you paid for.
Strateg0s