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#8
21-02-2009, 09:08 PM
I have a very knowledgeable friend who used sauce for many years, and knows hundreds of people who did as well (back in the Upjohn days). Basically, this guy has seen and used a lot, and "knows the game" so to speak. We recently had a conversation about UG GH and he told me he would never touch anything thats not fully HG pharmaceutical, due to the amount of Insulin being packaged and sold as GH. I have not heard of this before, and am curious as to how many people if any share his view? Does this go on frequently or at all to anyones knowledge?

Blitz-Test
21-02-2009, 09:12 PM
I have a very knowledgeable friend who used sauce for many years, and knows hundreds of people who did as well (back in the Upjohn days). Basically, this guy has seen and used a lot, and "knows the game" so to speak. We recently had a conversation about UG GH and he told me he would never touch anything thats not fully HG pharmaceutical, due to the amount of Insulin being packaged and sold as GH. I have not heard of this before, and am curious as to how many people if any share his view? Does this go on frequently or at all to anyones knowledge?

Never heard anything about insulin, I dont think someone would do that because people could lower blood sugar way to much by mistake...

I have heard of HCG being sold as HGH, which is very common, because alot of people will be runnign 2-4IU of GH, and really they are taking abit of hcg, and in there head theyll say yea my hair is nicer, my skin is nicer, im loosing bf...

nisser
21-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Yeah that would be borderline criminal...and could easily result in the person getting real hurt. It's much easier to just put random white powder as it would be pretty obvious you are shooting slin lol.

Mr Ontario
21-02-2009, 09:30 PM
lol he doesn't seem to be to knowledgeable.....I have yet to ever hear that someone would put insulin in such kits.


I have a very knowledgeable friend who used sauce for many years, and knows hundreds of people who did as well (back in the Upjohn days). Basically, this guy has seen and used a lot, and "knows the game" so to speak. We recently had a conversation about UG GH and he told me he would never touch anything thats not fully HG pharmaceutical, due to the amount of Insulin being packaged and sold as GH. I have not heard of this before, and am curious as to how many people if any share his view? Does this go on frequently or at all to anyones knowledge?

Seth
21-02-2009, 09:37 PM
The risks would be too high. They want to scam people, not kill them

#8
21-02-2009, 09:58 PM
He really has been in the game for a while and I trust what he says, obviously nobody knows everything, but hes someone i listen to when he talks about gear. thanks for the responses.

evoke
21-02-2009, 10:03 PM
haven't heard of this. Although, hcg sold as hgh is common, as already mentioned.

Beachmuscle
21-02-2009, 11:45 PM
I say BULLSHIT! Doesn't look the same, and you would end up killing someone.

canadianmuscle0803
22-02-2009, 08:09 AM
that would not be a very smart move with any UG GH lab, death after death would be occurring, if this is true then i would be dead by now with the amount of UG GH i have tried in my exp.

underdosed GH? very possible, but insulin = highly unlikely.

canadianmuscle0803
22-02-2009, 08:10 AM
haven't heard of this. Although, hcg sold as hgh is common, as already mentioned.

this I have heard, but this can be easily tested with a prego test. and if this were the case my balls would be plump like pumpkins.

Praetorian
22-02-2009, 10:57 AM
I have a very knowledgeable friend who used sauce for many years, and knows hundreds of people who did as well (back in the Upjohn days). Basically, this guy has seen and used a lot, and "knows the game" so to speak. We recently had a conversation about UG GH and he told me he would never touch anything thats not fully HG pharmaceutical, due to the amount of Insulin being packaged and sold as GH. I have not heard of this before, and am curious as to how many people if any share his view? Does this go on frequently or at all to anyones knowledge?

Sound slike BS to me. Have you ever seen insulin in lypholized form?
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#8
22-02-2009, 01:57 PM
Sound slike BS to me. Have you ever seen insulin in lypholized form?
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no never. i have never seen, nor will i ever use slin as the risks far outweigh the rewards IMO. what im wondering i guess in relation to what i was told, is if someone was using slin they thought was GH, would it elicit gains? Would using 3-5 iu per day be enough to illicit gains that could make one believe they were using GH? i have no knowledge in this field.

Praetorian
22-02-2009, 02:57 PM
no never. i have never seen, nor will i ever use slin as the risks far outweigh the rewards IMO. what im wondering i guess in relation to what i was told, is if someone was using slin they thought was GH, would it elicit gains? Would using 3-5 iu per day be enough to illicit gains that could make one believe they were using GH? i have no knowledge in this field.


Slin is a very useful tool in an advanced competitive BB arsenal. The key words here being advanced competitive...not local gym rat! Slin is also not dangerous if you have a brain in your head and regularily use it. If you are somehwat retarded then I would not recommend it.
At 3-5 iu's an athlete will see results mostly in slight weight gain and possibly some water retention. It could easily be confused with the results from GH yes. However after a period of time on GH the user would generally appear leaner where with only slin the user would definitely be carrying more BF.
Hers the kicker...you would have to be really slow to mistake slin for GH because slin is sold as a liquid....GH is sold as a lypholized powder. Nobody with half a brain would ever buy GH which has already been reconstituted because after reconstitution it requires refrigeration at all times and degrades quite rapidly.
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natenator
22-02-2009, 03:45 PM
Slin is a very useful tool in an advanced competitive BB arsenal. The key words here being advanced competitive...not local gym rat! Slin is also not dangerous if you have a brain in your head and regularily use it. If you are somehwat retarded then I would not recommend it.
At 3-5 iu's an athlete will see results mostly in slight weight gain and possibly some water retention. It could easily be confused with the results from GH yes. However after a period of time on GH the user would generally appear leaner where with only slin the user would definitely be carrying more BF.
Hers the kicker...you would have to be really slow to mistake slin for GH because slin is sold as a liquid....GH is sold as a lypholized powder. Nobody with half a brain would ever buy GH which has already been reconstituted because after reconstitution it requires refrigeration at all times and degrades quite rapidly.
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LMAO!

"If you are somehwat retarded then I would not recommend it."hahahaaha

funnay!!!

#8
22-02-2009, 03:47 PM
Slin is a very useful tool in an advanced competitive BB arsenal. The key words here being advanced competitive...not local gym rat! Slin is also not dangerous if you have a brain in your head and regularily use it. If you are somehwat retarded then I would not recommend it.
At 3-5 iu's an athlete will see results mostly in slight weight gain and possibly some water retention. It could easily be confused with the results from GH yes. However after a period of time on GH the user would generally appear leaner where with only slin the user would definitely be carrying more BF.
Hers the kicker...you would have to be really slow to mistake slin for GH because slin is sold as a liquid....GH is sold as a lypholized powder. Nobody with half a brain would ever buy GH which has already been reconstituted because after reconstitution it requires refrigeration at all times and degrades quite rapidly.
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ah. thank you for clearing that up. will pass this info along. :)

Born2Juice4Ever
22-02-2009, 06:53 PM
Slin is a very useful tool in an advanced competitive BB arsenal. The key words here being advanced competitive...not local gym rat! Slin is also not dangerous if you have a brain in your head and regularily use it. If you are somehwat retarded then I would not recommend it.
At 3-5 iu's an athlete will see results mostly in slight weight gain and possibly some water retention. It could easily be confused with the results from GH yes. However after a period of time on GH the user would generally appear leaner where with only slin the user would definitely be carrying more BF.
Hers the kicker...you would have to be really slow to mistake slin for GH because slin is sold as a liquid....GH is sold as a lypholized powder. Nobody with half a brain would ever buy GH which has already been reconstituted because after reconstitution it requires refrigeration at all times and degrades quite rapidly.
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You practically read my mind and I opened the second page....great post.

Monster hockey bro I love you, and you're a cool guy, but you've got to be real careful as to WHO you call your mentor or advisor.
Quite frankly, if this guy is telling you that slin is being sold as GH, I would mention ONE SINGLE WORD to him: R E C O N S T I T U T I O N....and then tell him to log on line and study a little.

Sorry, I am trying to be proactive here, but guys like him piss me off to no end.



B2J

#8
22-02-2009, 07:05 PM
You practically read my mind and I opened the second page....great post.

Monster hockey bro I love you, and you're a cool guy, but you've got to be real careful as to WHO you call your mentor or advisor.
Quite frankly, if this guy is telling you that slin is being sold as GH, I would mention ONE SINGLE WORD to him: R E C O N S T I T U T I O N....and then tell him to log on line and study a little.

Sorry, I am trying to be proactive here, but guys like him piss me off to no end.



B2J


nah, you're right bro. i dont take advice from him, but i do respect his opinion on matters of gear and the lifestyle. he was a part of it for a long time in toronto, and may actually know some of the more vet guys around the toronto area. i posted this question because it seemed so out in left field. i trust a solid group of guys on here as well, you being one of them. thanks for the feedback.

pinhead
22-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Someone would die over this if they were doing it. I think many of us here would help the RCMP as much as possible if anyone were selling insulin as GH.

Praetorian
22-02-2009, 08:00 PM
Just as an FYI...just because someones been around for awhile and used aas for some time and/or trained for some odd years doesnt mean he actually knows anything. You have to gain experience from guys who know what they are doing and learn the correct way to do things. This is difficult because as we all know everyone is an expert and in actuality what they know is just heresay and misinformaton passed on by gym rats. To learn you need to love to read and be able to comprehend and interpret what you just read. Then you need to apply it to actual training, aas usage, nutrition etc. Combine this with years of experience and education and time training with intelligent world class PL and BB and you might just know a thing or two.
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javin86
22-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Just wanted to comment that op's buddy may actually be half right. The thing he was wrong about though is that it wasn't hgh it was igf. Body of science recently lab tested a bunch of chinese igf-1, and found that alot of it came back as different things. One of them actually turned out to be rat insulin.

JonnyO
22-02-2009, 11:11 PM
never seen lypholyzed insulin myself.

Ritch
22-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Speaking of putting crap in bottles... I was once told fake winny can have armoral in it as they look alike. Any truth to this? I was got a bottle of winny and thought this was the case because I got bad acne on my back and it tasted real bad. First I never get acne on my back and was also once told winny should taste like milk. It took me 2 years to even talk to that guy again.

phatkid77
22-02-2009, 11:35 PM
i too heard the armoral scare and saw acne welts on friends from supposed upjohn V..

phats

Ritch
22-02-2009, 11:40 PM
i too heard the armoral scare and saw acne welts on friends from supposed upjohn V..

phats

It was upjohn as well.

tripleA
23-02-2009, 09:29 PM
Could be true. I've used Nords before as they come in liquid form. But highly doubtful as there would be millions of dead bodybuilders :laugh