when using deca, do i have to use caber or bromo?

[HeavyD]

this is my cycle

600mg test E week 1-16
400mg deca week 1-12
35mg/day dbol week 1-5

i know i dont have to do anything, but it has been highly recommended by others that i run cabergoline @ .5 2 x week while on deca.

i lost my job and dont have a extra penny for this cycle, just want input from others who have ran deca without caber or bromo, would you do it again?

i know you cant put a price on not getting prolactin gyno, but i have everything else from hcg to PCT, and yes i know i could go with EQ but i already bought the deca.

any help?

[Carbonbase]

You will be fine.

[HeavyD]

You will be fine.

and this is from first hand expierence?

@ what dose is it considered manditory to run caber? and also the same question for tren?(as both of these compounds cause prolactin related sides)

im not calling you a liar but I really dont want tits cause some guy said i would be fine.

[Vomit]

You can never know for sure if you'll get a side effect from a drug... Different people react differently. I assume you have some estrogen control, either an AI or a serm which you will use if you get itchy nips. If that doesnt work and you think its prolactin (having no sex drive seems to go along with prolactin sides), then you could try Vitamin B6 at 750mg a day. There are some papers that show it works in high dosages and others that show it doesnt (usually using low dosages like 20mg). Its effect is not as strong as caber, but might be all you need. Also its cheap compared to caber. If you notice pain in your fingers you will have been running B6 too long and you need to stop. This rarely happens unless you use it for many months/ years.

hope this helps, and I also dont think your running that much deca so dont worry too much

[CBB loves Japan]

you'll have to run it to se if you need it, in my experiences it goes aay after ceasing use, for whatever thats worth

[Carbonbase]

you'll have to run it to se if you need it, in my experiences it goes aay after ceasing use, for whatever thats worth

Amen.

I ran 400mg of deca and 500mg of test E for 14 weeks. No probs.

[Drummer]

you only need caber if your really gyno sensetive. As ive always said, NO extra drugs unless you ABSOLUTELY need them. Keep an eye on the nips. Very puffy, itchy, red or lumps indicate a need for nolva and maybe an AI.

~DB~

[#8]

i ran deca @ 400 mg a week with zero prolactin issues.

[HeavyD]

thankx all, all i can do is give it a try and see, but a serm or AI wont do shit for that type of gyno, but yes i do have them on hand,

i am gyno sensitive, but we will see how it gows, thankx again for the prompt response all.

[waderow]

i ran into some prolactin gyno sides from npp, and took caber after a couple weeks, and maintained until after my npp and tren for a few weeks. lumps disappeared.

if your source is very very reliable, you could always wait and see, and buy if required. not recommended but if $$$ is low, you could risk it i suppose.

if it is stressing you out as much as it seems it is, but a bottle of caber and sit on it.

[BAM]

My buddy generally used 400mg deca/week with his test cycles and he never uses cabr or bromo and has no probs.

[St]

I'm on tren and i have bad gyno,started running Dostinex.Once my tren is done never going to use it again,and the Tren cough is just nuts.

[HeavyD]

what about letro, this from what i have heard, combats both types of estro, only it completely eliminates estro, and not controlls it?

its just by the time i have some to spend, my source can take 3 weeks to get here, and if i go with a canadain domestic, its $150 US minimum order damn.

i have ran prop/deca in the past for only 5 weeks though, due to certain situations at the time, so i dont know if i was fine on the prolactin or that in 5 weeks it never fully kicked in?

but needless to say i dumped the baggage, and want to try the deca again.

thankx again guys

[pinhead]

I found deca very mild. No sides except water retention.

[HeavyD]

yea pinhead

thats exactly what i thought, being most used due to low sides.

but then i really started taking this serious, a few months back, and found that there are two types of gyno, one caused only by deca/tren. WTF? then this caber/bromo info i found.

most seem to say not to worry, and i would personally recommend not to start untill i would have caber, but i can't wait to get back on! im just finishing up my nolva for PCT and the boys are already increaseing sperm count. so maybe another week or two.


not trying to change subject but has anyone, anywhere in canada found a Doc that with do HRT?(probably going to have to make new thread)

[tex]

npp @ 50mg/day and no sides besides sweating like slave and a bit of insomnia.....

[small_guy]

keep b6 on hand and try and keep estrogen low- meaning an AI. Do not take nolva or you will increase your chance of problems.

FYI: Caber has been linked with heart issues.

[HeavyD]

what is npp, that you guys are refering to?

[tex]

nandrolone phenylpropionate......fast acting deca

[AnabolicState]

Personally I'm very prone to gyno, but i've never had a problem with deca causing it. Never ran it higher than 400mg/wk though.

[Krozone]

I've had Gyno in the past, had it dug out.

NEVER would I start up a cycle unless I had the compounds on hand to ensure that I keep the Gyno under control.

I would wait till you have the funds on hand... be patient. :>

[evoke]

Save up money, be patient. Better to be safe, IMO.