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Sleeping_Giant
16-02-2009, 08:52 PM
hey guys just a quick question, im starting an m1t cycle tomorrow.. ill be consuming 2 15mg pills a day for 2 weeks, and im just wondering if you guys could recommend solid supplements (such as protein or weight gainer) that will help produce some serious growth

Namelessone
16-02-2009, 09:02 PM
The best weight gainer I have ever had is Dymatize super mass gainer.

http://www.dymatize.com/mivastore/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DBE&Product_Code=P140

Sleeping_Giant
16-02-2009, 10:08 PM
i dunno, if i take m1s and use a weight gainer like that.. will it produce muscle or fat lol i was thinking more along the lines of an isolate

MoooBaby
16-02-2009, 10:09 PM
M1T is crap. . . crap crap crap crap crap and crap. Just my opinion.

javin86
16-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Ilike it, but I hope your taking some test with it too.

physique
16-02-2009, 10:14 PM
you are going to hold a shit load of water anyways using m1t. it does not produce maintainable gains. its kinda reminds me of dbol. big quick, but bloaty as **** and you can loose what you gain just as fast. you will keep very little in other words.

seeing as its still winter, i would use a weight gainer. you shouldnt be worying about putting on some chub at this time of year, you can always diet it off when spring comes.

if you think u can gain muscle and stay ripped year around, u are sadly mistaken. Even guys that take steroids/gh cant do this. let me correct myself somewhat, It can be done,but we are talking very little noticable gains and you would have to have the perfect metabolism and genetics to do it.

Ritch
16-02-2009, 10:40 PM
Although I am rather pro M1T in general if this is your first cycle of it 30 mg is way too much. Also, not to sound like a prick I don`t know why you`re even using it asking such basic questions like what is a good gainer. C`mon dude you should know what works best for you before touching stuff like this. I hate to go against the grain here but M1T can produce maintanable gains, I even continued to grow into pct. Of course if you`re already 20 lbs past your genetic set point that won`t be the case.

nitrous
16-02-2009, 10:41 PM
yeah i agree on the dosage.. years ago i took it and noticed huge gains from 10mg's.. but like they said.. sounds like you would gain more just from doing a proper diet instead

Sleeping_Giant
16-02-2009, 10:47 PM
Although I am rather pro M1T in general if this is your first cycle of it 30 mg is way too much. Also, not to sound like a prick I don`t know why you`re even using it asking such basic questions like what is a good gainer. C`mon dude you should know what works best for you before touching stuff like this. I hate to go against the grain here but M1T can produce maintanable gains, I even continued to grow into pct. Of course if you`re already 20 lbs past your genetic set point that won`t be the case.

haha yea id be nuts to do 30mg if it were my first cycle, but its not this is my 3rd;however, my last 2 cycles were kind of a waste because i ran out of suppliments about half way through..lol and i couldnt even get any more because im was hard on the cash (i live away from home attending college) but this time around im going to hopefully do it right.. and im open to any suggestions on suppliments that are worth while

Big D
16-02-2009, 10:53 PM
you should probably do abit more research. theres alot better stuff out there then M1T.

Sleeping_Giant
16-02-2009, 10:57 PM
you should probably do abit more research. theres alot better stuff out there then M1T.

lol yeah i know.. but getting it is the problem, if my parents ever found out i was into this shit my mom would pull my balls threw my anus, i dont really like doing oral, if i could get my hands on the real deal id be doing it lol

Ritch
16-02-2009, 11:01 PM
You`ll need something to control blood pressure hawthorn berry and celery seed extract are commonly used for this. For your liver milk thistle or liv 52 can be used. For pct I used nolvadex and clenbuterol with some no shotgun and BCAA and did real good. Taking the BCAA can be pricey if anything get some nolvadex. Didn`t use that much either, I used 25 20mg pills over 3 weeks tapering down to 5mg the last 5 days or so. That stuff was giving me hot flashes to the point where people could see it and would ask me what the hell was going on with me. Make sure you have the nolvadex on hand before even starting this cycle. I`m aware I left out the dosages for the blood pressure sups and milk thistle. Since I don`t beleive in spoon feeding information you can do a search. Bodybuilding.com of all places actually has some good thread on this. If you do some research, I`ll be glad to comment on it.

As far as your diet man, this is an individual thing. I`ve always been a carb guy with about 40 grams of protein per meal. Get some healthy fats from natural peanut butter and flax oil stuff like that. Most will say fish oil is a must although I never got **** all from it even with the mega dosing of it. Basically when doing M1T I was getting 250 grams of protien 600 grams of carbs and at least 100 grams of fat.

To sum up the supp list. We have the blood pressure supps, liver support, the nolvadex, protein powder. Now are you using vitamin C, a B complex, magnesium and zinc. If not, forget about this cycle. Again the doses can be found do some searching and enjoy the process.

bigtavi8
16-02-2009, 11:04 PM
Im wondering which M1T were talking about here.. NOT ASKING FOR SOURCE/FISHING in any way i know the rules obvs. Im wondering if its the MTEST poop or that LAMIERDA they so call it or rather if its straight up M1T. IMPO M1T is a designer steroid made in the 50's and replaced by better working and more effective AAS. I have found really good gains in BSN Truemass.. I know its pricey and name brand but the gains were noticeable and clean (mind you i was on a 6 meal a day super clean diet)

physique
16-02-2009, 11:05 PM
so u know i will have the hawthorn berry in a few days, as i am bringing some up from down south for someone else on this board. pm me if ya like.

actually i can supply u with everything u need except the novadex. unless u wish to use novadex xt by gaspari.

physique
16-02-2009, 11:06 PM
we are talking methyl-1-testosterone.

Big D
16-02-2009, 11:08 PM
lol yeah i know.. but getting it is the problem, if my parents ever found out i was into this shit my mom would pull my balls threw my anus, i dont really like doing oral, if i could get my hands on the real deal id be doing it lol

what about tbol ? its oral and less harsh on your body. I dontknow your age but I think your yung enough, if you concentrate on your diet alot more you can get excellent gains.

Ritch
16-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Maybe he could trade some vitamin b6 for some novadex xt cap for cap with someone in the states now that is`t banned there. Imagine that shit! Got my order today Physique, 20lbs of peach flavored protein powder, tastes pretty good just hope I don`t get tired of the taste because I have 20 lbs of it. Anyway, hijack over... Back to the almighty M1T.

physique
16-02-2009, 11:14 PM
Maybe he could trade some vitamin b6 for some novadex xt cap for cap with someone in the states now that is`t banned there. Imagine that shit! Got my order today Physique, 20lbs of peach flavored protein powder, tastes pretty good just hope I don`t get tired of the taste because I have 20 lbs of it. Anyway, hijack over... Back to the almighty M1T.

do this with that stuff. 1/2cup orange juice, 1/2 cup skim milk and a handful of frozen mangos. blend and serve awesome!!

Ritch
16-02-2009, 11:18 PM
do this with that stuff. 1/2cup orange juice, 1/2 cup skim milk and a handful of frozen mangos. blend and serve awesome!!

Sounds good, I`ve been buying about 5 lbs of frozen fruits these days, maybe I`ll throw in some M1T in the blender just for good mesure.

Sleeping_Giant
16-02-2009, 11:31 PM
Sounds good, I`ve been buying about 5 lbs of frozen fruits these days, maybe I`ll throw in some M1T in the blender just for good mesure.

haha way to get back on topic :P

and big d i just turned 21... and yeah im lucky because i bought a couple bottles of novadex xt before it got the ban hammer in canada lol and that eliminates estrogen so its better than nothing !

Ritch
16-02-2009, 11:47 PM
I would use the novadex xt as a stand alone. It really worked great for me. For pct, I wouldn`t chance it, get some nolvadex if you can. I used the novadex xt when I was waiting for my nolvadex and it did work but when I stopped it the tingling came back. I forget why I stopped it and if I was using it during or after my cycle. The nolvadex took care of the tingling sensation in my left nipple, some say this is not symptoms of bitch tits, but I`d rather not chance it and knowing I was going to use nolvadex anyway, I did just that.

Maybe it was pseudo gyno because at the time there were threads talking about M1T induced gyno and delayed gyno, but the tingling was the same as when I was on test and d ball, so I`ll say it was real gyno symptoms. Sorry for the long story, but if you can`t find the nolvadex there is a place that was discussed here where we were talking about a certain magazine that has adds in the back selling these and other substances. Some members here vouched it was a legit site.

If what I just said is too much information, I`ll delete it, just trying to help a brother out...

Sleeping_Giant
17-02-2009, 09:40 AM
alright thanks guys for your help... im starting my cycle today so i'll drop a thread about my gains at the end of it !

thanks again d00ds

Ritch
17-02-2009, 11:21 AM
Now I remember the whole novadex thing. I was using it for pct and was working at getting rid of the tingling sensation in my left nipple when I was waiting for my real nolvadex as I said. The nolvadex I got though was from a "buddy" let`s just say. This stuff made me shit. But it was just a big fart with just some clear liquid that would come out of my ass. I was doing this at least 5 times a day. After 3 days and at least 20 shits later, I said **** it and stopped the nolvadex but it was working and on the irritated nipple...

So then went on the novadex and it worked but just had a general lack of trust with that product for the purpose I was using it (pct), plus as the stories at the time of delayed gyno. That`s why I mentioned the pseudo gyno before... I then dedided to stop both nolva and nova fearing both would **** me up. Then the tingling would come back, so I opted to use the novadex xt because it was friendly on my ass... Again it worked but wondered aoubt the nolvadex. Then I decided to try the nolvadex to see if the toilet trips were a coincidence. The same thing happened, just these big farts on the can with some liquid comming out. After 3 days or so sait **** it and quit pct altogether.

I know that is disgusting but always wondered what the hell were in these pills. Could they have been massively overdosed (they were basement caps made by a guy) I asked him about the filler and he said it was corn flour. Any ideas guys?

deleteduser0001
18-02-2009, 12:18 AM
hey guys just a quick question, im starting an m1t cycle tomorrow.. ill be consuming 2 15mg pills a day for 2 weeks, and im just wondering if you guys could recommend solid supplements (such as protein or weight gainer) that will help produce some serious growth

if you are gonna use anything that is methly, why not just get some methly test? at least you know that shit is real and eating your liver but you also know its real test.


I miss real methlytest, high blood pressure, crazy temper, sick bloat but hell, i got lbs.