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natenator
16-02-2009, 06:42 PM
Getting the itch to compete again but will need to add a bit more size to fill out some lagging areas. Once my mcl tear heals I am considering the following cycle:

Week 1-12: test. enan 1500mg/week
Week 1-12: Deca 800mg/week
Week 4-9: Dbol 50mg/ed

I'd run this then cruise for a month before slowly transitioning into contest prep.

thoughts?

Normally I keep levels quite low on the drug scene but have been curious about a larger cycle and this would be my biggest ever in terms of doses.

thx!

edit: also running GH at 3-4iu/day. this is mainlh meant to help with tendons, joints, recovery properties and recomping/leaning out a bit.

Namelessone
16-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Wow you must be a good size guy man. Thats a heavy cycle.

Good luck in getting back into competing. I hope it works out for you.

natenator
16-02-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm about 6'3 and 290-300lbs right now. Pudgy 300 but will recomp a fair amount I think.

nisser
16-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Looks fantastic. One thing to consider is maybe throwing in a low dose of EQ?

natenator
16-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Looks fantastic. One thing to consider is maybe throwing in a low dose of EQ?
I thought about EQ but 12 weeks isn't enough time for me as I like to run EQ for a good 16-20 weeks. I may run it for contest prep as that's now long my prep will be.

tiramisu
16-02-2009, 07:03 PM
You might want to put the dbol at the beginning your blood levels will be high enough with the test/deca in the middle weeks.

natenator
16-02-2009, 07:07 PM
You might want to put the dbol at the beginning your blood levels will be high enough with the test/deca in the middle weeks.
better result occur with dbol mid-cycle as opposed to beginning. greater synergies

Kronis
16-02-2009, 07:12 PM
Looks pretty damn good to me.

What are you planning on cruising at, test 250/week ?

natenator
16-02-2009, 07:16 PM
year, cruise will be 250 of test (and if I do EQ, 200mg/week) for 4-6 weeks before I roll into contest prep!

Kronis
16-02-2009, 07:20 PM
Then bump the eq up around 800 for the contest run?

I like the low dose eq for your cruise just because it sounds like you really need the extra collagen synthesis. That combined with the GH should have you feeling pretty fantastic.

nisser
16-02-2009, 07:22 PM
I thought about EQ but 12 weeks isn't enough time for me as I like to run EQ for a good 16-20 weeks. I may run it for contest prep as that's now long my prep will be.

Well yeah that's what I meant. Run the deca up to week 12, then keep the test and eq up to week 16 and then transition into tren for contest.

natenator
16-02-2009, 07:23 PM
either 600 or 800 with the EQ for prep. Haven't looked at what my prep will consist of just yet.

natenator
16-02-2009, 07:24 PM
will prop run prop/tren/eq and at 5 weeks out add in winny but most likely won't need the winny

St
16-02-2009, 08:12 PM
Nice high dose guess you are going to be a heavyweight.Everything looks good but i would rather see you do t-bol less water than d-bol.

tiramisu
16-02-2009, 08:17 PM
better result occur with dbol mid-cycle as opposed to beginning. greater synergies

True but so do the sides. I've found bp to be a bit of a challenge with test-e and dbol mid cycle but you know your body best.

natenator
16-02-2009, 08:30 PM
Nice high dose guess you are going to be a heavyweight.Everything looks good but i would rather see you do t-bol less water than d-bol.
my last show I competed at 245lbs.

Namelessone
16-02-2009, 08:35 PM
my last show I competed at 245lbs.

That must have been an impressive condition to be in. I could only dream of having a body like that... Maybe one day...

natenator
16-02-2009, 08:37 PM
That must have been an impressive condition to be in. I could only dream of having a body like that... Maybe one day...
being 6'3 I don't look that big compared to those who are 5'8-5'10 and 225+

Namelessone
16-02-2009, 08:44 PM
being 6'3 I don't look that big compared to those who are 5'8-5'10 and 225+

Yeah my good buddy and employee is only 5'10" and weighs in at 340 lbs but solid. He is on Tren/Test now and cutting down nicely...

Seth
16-02-2009, 08:59 PM
He's the employee but at that size, you're probably the one calling him sir ;)

Namelessone
16-02-2009, 09:08 PM
He's the employee but at that size, you're probably the one calling him sir ;)

Naw I write his pay checks... lol But at his size just about everyone in the gym calls him sir...

natenator
21-02-2009, 12:41 PM
so am gonna sub out dbol for tbol as per a suggestion in this thread.

Cycle is:

Week 1-12: Test E (1500mg/week)
Week 1-12: Deca (800mg/week)
Week 4-9: Tbold (50mg/ed)

I've been crusing on 250mg/week of prop for a while now so I'll slowly transition it out for the test e over a 3-4 week period to keep hormone levels stable.

Thanks for all the input.

evoke
21-02-2009, 01:18 PM
what do you do for pct?

natenator
21-02-2009, 01:20 PM
what do you do for pct?
did you read the entire thread?

nisser
21-02-2009, 01:20 PM
what do you do for pct?

You must have missed the 'cruising on test' part :P