Loss of libido after dbol frontload over? [Archive] - CANADA BODYBUILDING

trainharder

13-02-2009, 03:58 PM

varking

13-02-2009, 04:07 PM

Do you guys ever experience a decrease in libido/sex-drive after the dbol portion of a Dbol/Test-E cycle?

I ended my dbol last Saturday and for the past couple days, I feel like my hardons aren't as strong and I don't have the same sexual drive as usual.

I can`t say I have had this problem but if I was you pick up some viagra and your old lady will be loving you again.....

trainharder

13-02-2009, 04:09 PM

I can`t say I have had this problem but if I was you pick up some viagra and your old lady will be loving you again.....

Yeah...well I'd need it by tomorrow night ideally. I better be in the mood tomorrow night or she'll be upset if I don't on Valentine's Day..

I'm 6 1/2 weeks into the Test-E so I'm kind of surprised that Mr. Woodpecker decided to go awol on me...

Redz

13-02-2009, 04:28 PM

If test does that to you dont try deca or tren lol. you may have high estrogen do you have an ai on hand?that might help and is worth a try.

trainharder

13-02-2009, 04:29 PM

If test does that to you dont try deca or tren lol. you may have high estrogen do you have an ai on hand?that might help and is worth a try.

I have nolva and arimidex on hand.

I doubt it's estrogen related because I'm not bloated anymore (lost a lot of the dbol waters in the past few days).

Got some blood work done yesterday so hopefully that will help explain the limp dick.

Big D

13-02-2009, 04:37 PM

its worth a try man, you have nothing to lose

trainharder

13-02-2009, 04:39 PM

its worth a try man, you have nothing to lose

I was thinking of taking 10 or 20mg of dbol tonight and tomorrow. With such a short half-life, I'm thinking it might help and get me back in business before tomorrow night? (I had no problems for the 4 weeks that I was on at 30mg/day)

deleteduser0001

13-02-2009, 06:07 PM

I had this happen. My estrogen was too high. anti-e didnt fix it but not whacking off for a day sure fixed it.

trainharder

13-02-2009, 06:09 PM

I had this happen. My estrogen was too high. anti-e didnt fix it but not whacking off for a day sure fixed it.

Easier said than done lol

Is estrogen too high because dbol causes it to spike, but once the dbol is over, it remains elevated without the dbol?

How long does it take to drop back down? (or should I take some nolva?)

13-02-2009, 06:24 PM

You need some hcg and some clomid.I said this before and i will say it again d-bol shuts down your natural test levels by 40% in only 10 days.

trainharder

13-02-2009, 06:25 PM

You need some hcg and some clomid.I said this before and i will say it again d-bol shuts down your natural test levels by 40% in only 10 days.

I'm on 500mg/wk of Test E (abuhairans) though.. Still have another 5 weeks to go.

Kronis

13-02-2009, 07:00 PM

It could be caused by way too many different things but I'll throw something out there.

My non-expert advice would be to add some Proviron. Everything I've read (research studies and anecdotal evidence) has said it's great for controlling SHBG and improving erections quality and frequency.

Dbol causes horniness in a lot of people so it may have been masking some side effects of the testosterone (ie elevated SHBG). If it's just a one night thing and you don't have viagra, cialis, or proviron I don't see any harm in taking some dbol to provide a little V-day magic.

Big D

13-02-2009, 07:14 PM

if you dont use it you'll lose it

Mr.Freeze

13-02-2009, 07:21 PM

maybe the Test E your doing is bunk thats could be the reason your loosing your libido.

trainharder

13-02-2009, 07:24 PM

maybe the Test E your doing is bunk thats could be the reason your loosing your libido.

I trust my source so I doubt it (unless he got scammed himself)..but it's unlikely.

I got blood work on the way so that will confirm it though.

Mr.Freeze

13-02-2009, 07:29 PM

I trust my source so I doubt it (unless he got scammed himself)..but it's unlikely.

I got blood work on the way so that will confirm it though.

just because your so sure i would bet on it! lolol
your never sure enough

let us know whwn you get your results.

kloan

13-02-2009, 07:30 PM

i say elevated estrogen but arimdex doesn't work fast enough to get you going by tomorrow..

trainharder

13-02-2009, 07:31 PM

just because your so sure i would bet on it! lolol
your never sure enough

let us know whwn you get your results.

Well until I get the results on Tuesday (stupid Family Day on Monday), I was thinking of taking 10mg a day. Hopefully it will prevent me from crashing too much (and losing my gains from the past month) if it turns out my test is low?

Namelessone

13-02-2009, 08:28 PM

Well until I get the results on Tuesday (stupid Family Day on Monday), I was thinking of taking 10mg a day. Hopefully it will prevent me from crashing too much (and losing my gains from the past month) if it turns out my test is low?

Like I said in the PM bro let me know if you need help. I'll even toss ya a few viagra to get you by tomorrow.

varking

13-02-2009, 08:35 PM

Like I said in the PM bro let me know if you need help. I'll even toss ya a few viagra to get you by tomorrow.

This is a good man......

Proteinkiller

13-02-2009, 09:12 PM

anytime im on test i gotta beat it like 5x a day or have sex multiple times... weird that your libido is low... cant wait to hear about the test results..

gustavo77

13-02-2009, 09:28 PM

gustavo77

13-02-2009, 09:30 PM

Like I said in the PM bro let me know if you need help....

Hey bro, V is a prescription drug...just cause you are giving it away does not mean that it is not trafficking. You really should edit your post.

giannos

13-02-2009, 09:52 PM

Elevated estrogen levels can increase SHBG. My first cycle i experienced the same thing, only on test and t-bol.. Anyways, about three days after i started using adex, i felt a whole lot better...i have been using an AI on cycle ever since. No problems with libido or performance ever.

Like always Gus is bang on ^^^^ exact same thing happened to me on my first run at dbol, and Test. Couldn't understand seeing as it was my first cycle why I wasn't horny?? Elevated estrogen. Add an A.I. and you should be good,. Even though you don't "feel" or look bloated, doesn't mean your E levels aren't high. As for a quick fix. Cialis > Viagra IMO

trainharder

13-02-2009, 09:54 PM

Like always Gus is bang on ^^^^ exact same thing happened to me on my first run at dbol, and Test. Couldn't understand seeing as it was my first cycle why I wasn't horny?? Elevated estrogen. Add an A.I. and you should be good,. Even though you don't "feel" or look bloated, doesn't mean your E levels aren't high. As for a quick fix. Cialis > Viagra IMO

I have both nolva and arimidex on hand but wouldn't nolva be faster in lowering estrogen levels if they are elevated?

gustavo77

13-02-2009, 10:46 PM

I have both nolva and arimidex on hand but wouldn't nolva be faster in lowering estrogen levels if they are elevated?

Do some research bro, nolva does not lower estrogen levels, it is a SERM. Adex is an AI and will lower estrogen levels. I suggest 0.5mg of adex per day or 1mg eod...ed dosing is always better with AI's.

13-02-2009, 10:49 PM

I have both nolva and arimidex on hand but wouldn't nolva be faster in lowering estrogen levels if they are elevated?

Arimidex works better,it shut off 78% of estrogen in the blood stream,nolva lets the estrogen flow in the blood system but blocks the estrogen at the nipple area,so once you stop the nolva's it still in the system.

trainharder

13-02-2009, 10:52 PM

Do some research bro, nolva does not lower estrogen levels, it is a SERM. Adex is an AI and will lower estrogen levels. I suggest 0.5mg of adex per day or 1mg eod...ed dosing is always better with AI's.

Got it. Thanks :)

For some reason, I thought that while Nolva wouldn't prevent the creation/release of estrogen, it would prevent it from being effective so that it wouldn't cause a problem.

Just took 0.75mg of Adex..I'm not expecting to wake up in a tent tomorrow morning but it would be nice ;)

gustavo77

13-02-2009, 11:11 PM

Got it. Thanks :)

For some reason, I thought that while Nolva wouldn't prevent the creation/release of estrogen, it would prevent it from being effective so that it wouldn't cause a problem.

Just took 0.75mg of Adex..I'm not expecting to wake up in a tent tomorrow morning but it would be nice ;)

Nolva is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator...meaning it selectively binds to some estrogen receptors (ie breast tissue) and blocks estrogen from binding but it does not lower or remove any estrogen from the body...it's still floating around binding to free test, increasing SHBG etc, etc...

Myself i would take 0.75-1mg of adex ed for 1-2 weeks just to get the adex into my system and get it working...you can tweak with the dose later...

hyperlite32

14-02-2009, 01:17 AM

Nolva is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator...meaning it selectively binds to some estrogen receptors (ie breast tissue) and blocks estrogen from binding but it does not lower or remove any estrogen from the body...it's still floating around binding to free test, increasing SHBG etc, etc...

Myself i would take 0.75-1mg of adex ed for 1-2 weeks just to get the adex into my system and get it working...you can tweak with the dose later...

That is good info... Plain and simple.