UFC 97 Canceled

[Mr.Freeze]

OMG The "Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux" just annouced that they will not tolerate MMA fight in Quebec anymore.From now on Elbows and knees will not be allowed in a fight.

[Redz]

Wow that sucks.

[Redz]

I cant find any articles on this are you sure its confirmed?

[hellfish]

Same shit hysteria happened last year.

And an event happened last week in Quebec where the promoter tried something that wesn't allowed in Quebec.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/strikebox-strikes-out-with-commission-16180

People were also mistranslating what was said in the french article, it actually reads:

"In Quebec there are three types of professional combat that are approved by our rules,” Thériault said. “There’s boxing, there’s kickboxing and there’s mixed martial arts. There’s nothing else. This promoter wanted a new style of combat called Strikeboxing. We said we couldn’t because of our rules and we wouldn’t allow it. If he wants to put on a show that’s fine, but it will be under mixed martial arts rules.”

No worries.

[Descimus]

regis de l alcool et des jeux plate du quebec

[Kronis]

This sucks. I was supposed to go to that with a bus full of MMA'ers. I was hoping to meet some UFC guys they know haha.

[Mr.Freeze]

Same shit hysteria happened last year.

And an event happened last week in Quebec where the promoter tried something that wesn't allowed in Quebec.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/strikebox-strikes-out-with-commission-16180

People were also mistranslating what was said in the french article, it actually reads:

"In Quebec there are three types of professional combat that are approved by our rules,” Thériault said. “There’s boxing, there’s kickboxing and there’s mixed martial arts. There’s nothing else. This promoter wanted a new style of combat called Strikeboxing. We said we couldn’t because of our rules and we wouldn’t allow it. If he wants to put on a show that’s fine, but it will be under mixed martial arts rules.”

No worries.

Thats not true, heres the real Texte

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C'est que la Régie ne permet que 3 types de combat sur le territoire de la province de Québec : la boxe, la boxe mixte et le kickboxing. Du coup, elle interdit les coups de genou et de coude à la tête, partie intégrante des combats en arts martiaux mixtes de la UFC.




http://www.corussports.com/divers/ufc_97_annule-20090212-1412843.html

[St]

Thanks Freeze lucky my little girl can read French for me same as the wife.:)
My little girl said annule means canceled,thanks for the link freeze,man that sucks.

[Mr.Freeze]

Nice, she speak french too?

[hellfish]

Nothing is confirmed. It will still happen, just gonna cost Zuffa some bucks.


The UFC's next event in Montreal is in jeopardy of not taking place.

Due to circumstances surrounding the fallout from an event held last week in Montreal, the Quebec Athletic Commission (under the Régie des Alcools, des Courses et des Jeux) is re-evaluating rules that govern the sport of mixed martial arts within the province, according to Sportsnet sources.

To date, the QAC has been following the Unified Rules of MMA in North America. But since laws differ by city, state or province, a commission can insist on its own rules, which could differ drastically.

Changes the commission may implement could affect UFC 97, the Las Vegas-based promotion's second event in Canada, which is scheduled for April 18 at the Bell Centre in Montreal and for which tickets went on sale Wednesday.

Sources close to the say these could include a requirement for a much smaller cage than the UFC's patented Octagon, prohibiting elbow and knee strikes and requiring that the referee halt a bout should a fighter get knocked down from a strike in order to ensure the downed fighter is okay to continue.

In pure forms of MMA, this does not occur as the action continues onto the ground while the referee determines during the action -- which could include further strikes -- whether or not a fighter is intelligently defending himself.

Representatives from the commission told Sportsnet.ca the UFC will have to follow the rules set forth by the commission if they wish to hold their show in Montreal. Marc Ratner, the UFC's vice president of government and regulatory affairs, is fully aware of the new situation and is hopeful that ongoing discussions with the commission will prove that this will not jeopardize the UFC's return to the province.

UFC 83 was held without a major hitch on April 19, 2008, at the Bell Centre, where Montreal's Georges St. Pierre defeated Matt Serra to reclaim his welterweight belt. That event broke the attendance record for a UFC event and was also the fastest sellout in the organization's history.

The province has held sanctioned MMA events under similar rules to the UFC for over seven years. The most high-profile ones have been put on by TKO Championship Fighting, a Montreal-based organization which had held events at the Bell Centre since 2006, its last being TKO 35 in October.

TKO 36 was scheduled for December, but it was scrapped after the organization's CEO, Stephane Patry, resigned. Patry subsequently launched a new combat sports promotion called Strikebox, which differed from MMA in that referees were to stand fighters back up immediately whenever one would go to the ground.

The promotion's first event was held Friday, Feb. 6, at a smaller venue in Montreal, but according to Sherdog.com the commission told organizers at the last minute that it would not sanction the event unless it was under traditional MMA rules. Thus referees were not permitted to interfere if any fight did go to the ground and it was up to the individual fighters to choose to stand back up.

While all fighters were reportedly made aware of the situation and seemed to have discussed a "gentleman's agreement" to keep fights off the ground, when the main event saw James Thompson take down hockey enforcer and local favourite Steve Bosse and work some ground-and-pound, an angry crowd began throwing things, including beer cans, into the cage.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/02/12/ufc_qac/

[pinhead]

This sucks!!!

[canadianmuscle0803]

i hope it goes through somehow.

[nitrous]

have it in vancouver instead.. not like it's not gonna sell out

[St]

Nice, she speak french too?

Ya she goes to French school very proud of her. Plus you need to speak French here in Ottawa to get a City or goverment job.

[Mr.Freeze]

good for her, she will have more job opportunities.

[Bowlcut]

**** the commission. Get the government out of private business.
All of the fighters consent to the UFC's rules so if they don't like them then it's their problem.

[physique]

have it in vancouver instead.. not like it's not gonna sell out

they tried this already. MMA is ilegal in BC. the events that are held here are all held on Indian land, thats how they get around the rule.

[varking]

**** canada need to take out there tampon and let the fight happen

[Mr.Freeze]

Update

Table is set for a meeting with Dana White and RACJ next week to see what could be done to keep the fight going on April 4.

[Gib]

MMA is totally legal in BC. Valley Fights (first example that cmoes to mind) is not held on a reserve. For that matter, neither have any of the KOTC events. It used to be illegal here, but that was several years ago.

[physique]

MMA is totally legal in BC. Valley Fights (first example that cmoes to mind) is not held on a reserve. For that matter, neither have any of the KOTC events. It used to be illegal here, but that was several years ago.


UFC though is not legal in BC. the rest might be but UFC is not. Thye tried to bring UFC already and the provincial government shot it down saying it was too violent and barbaric.

This happened when the first show came to Montreal.

There is rumorthat UFC is eyeing BC again, if they can convince city council. but everything i have read says that it will NEVER happen! No matter how much money it will bring into the city for that weekend.

[physique]

hey GIB

heres the article. as you can see UFC is banned in BC!

http://www2.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=478aaef1-cb80-4210-83f3-e1bd0a77272a

[faller]

the provincial government shot it down saying it was too violent and barbaric.

I thank God almighty every single day of my pathetic, insignificant life that our Gov. takes such good care of us. God bless the Cocksuckers.





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[Adonis13]

Dana white is in Quebec now trying to get them to change the rules allowing the knees and elbows and knockdown rule, i think it will be good to go cause there's alot of money at stake and theres not sufficient evidence that MMA is more dangerous then football, or hockey. guess we'll find ut by the end of the day

[Mr.Freeze]

link to Dana white interview in Montreal

http://www.corussports.com/radio/audioplayer.php?file=1416673.mp3&mode=cn&id=1416673&date=20090214

[guest]

Ya she goes to French school very proud of her. Plus you need to speak French here in Ottawa to get a City or goverment job.

physique is partially right. the city of vancouver banned MMA. i happened to see the one and only MMA event ever sanctioned in Van. Elite Fighting, March 18, 2006, eastman vs wiuff.

Dana is facing the same problems in ontario but is confident there will be a toronto show.

[Gib]

That link only discusses Vancouver's municipal by laws, in the rest of the province shouldnt have a problem

[knockyouout]

UFC in calgary. please

[physique]

That link only discusses Vancouver's municipal by laws, in the rest of the province shouldnt have a problem

where would u hold it in the rest of the province? there is no where big enough. you need either GM place or bc place to properly do it, so it pays for it self. no way will they run it in a smaller rink that holds 3/4's less of the people as the places above hold.

[hellfish]

Its all good, Ratner is on the ball....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/02/13/ufc97.update/index.html

And you can bet your bottom dollar that we'll see the UFC in Ontario, specificaly TO, soon enough. As soon as they sort out Section 83 of the criminal code.

[hellfish]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/02/17/ufc_meeting/


SPORTSNET.CA

The UFC was meeting in Montreal with members of the Quebec Boxing Commission and government officials Tuesday night, a source told Sportsnet, in an attempt to save UFC 97.

The UFC’s second event in Canada, scheduled for April 18 at the Bell Centre, is in jeopardy of being moved out of the province because of different rules to the UFC's that the Quebec commission has said it must insist on enforcing.

These rules difference include a smaller Octagon size and not allowing strikes with elbows or bent knees.

In an interview with a Quebec radio station on the weekend, UFC president Dana White said he was hopeful the event will go on as planned. White, along with UFC majority owner Lorenzo Fertitta, was to be part of Tuesday's meeting in Montreal. Their purpose was to convince the commission to allow the event to carry on under the Unified Rules of MMA in North America as have other MMA events for the past 10 years, including last April’s Canadian debut for UFC.

[evoke]

unfortunately, another step back for MMA