Mr. N.S. receives 33 months....

[Body By Balco]

I'm speaking of Illusion.

I guess times have changed. Perhaps, although I doubt, this notion of slap on the wrist steroid offences will disappear. 33 months is a prison term and it was only for the steroid offences. He still has another trial pending for other charges.

Oh well, this community is it's own worst enemy. Keep posting your pitcures and talking about labs. With the Olympics coming I sure it will help the cause.

[#8]

^^ wtf?

[faller]

Retracted, 1 bad K is enough even though i admited my mistake :(

[jmaker]

retracted...

[natenator]

do ANY of you guys know who Body By Balco is/was?

If he is THE BBB then he has more knowledge on the game than almost anyone else here and his warnings ring true.

[Body By Balco]

This was the first name branded UG operation to face a trial without a weapons charge or recreational drugs. This sets a precedent for future prosecutions. The crown had expert witnesses flown in from the US and Vancover just to nail the coffin shut for Mr. Tanner.

Not only is his prison sentence significant but Mr. Tanner is likely to loose his house and most other personal assests due to the precedes of crime legislation.

[Kronis]

Wasn't he also busted for child porn and possibly some rec drugs?

[tiramisu]

Is this a canadian sentence?

[St]

This was the first name branded UG operation to face a trial without a weapons charge or recreational drugs. This sets a precedent for future prosecutions. The crown had expert witnesses flown in from the US and Vancover just to nail the coffin shut for Mr. Tanner.

Not only is his prison sentence significant but Mr. Tanner is likely to loose his house and most other personal assests due to the precedes of crime legislation.


Yep once precedent is set your faked.

[Zeron]

yup (WTF)

[Seth]

Wasn't he also busted for child porn and possibly some rec drugs?

The official reports state child porn, but I don't remember seeing rec drugs.

[Body By Balco]

Wasn't he also busted for child porn and possibly some rec drugs?


Yes however his 33 month sentence relates ONLY to the steroid charges. He was not found in possession of any recreationa drugs. He was caught up in an operation where others where charged with recreational drug offences and weapons offences. Mr. Tanner was tried and sentenced on steroid related offences only, and if any of you way the indictment and the charges the crown leveled at him, beyond those of the criminal code.....YIKES.

The child porn is a totally separate trial and is still pending.


The crown wanted to set a precendent here and they did just that. The next name branded lab to be busted better have Mr. Greenspan on retainer or be prepared for a significant time away from their loved ones.

[jmaker]

You gotta wonder how much this man's reputation played out in the sentencing. I do understand what your saying, that the charges were for the steroids only. But its a fact of life that your reputation precedes you.

[Namelessone]

Yes however his 33 month sentence relates ONLY to the steroid charges. He was not found in possession of any recreationa drugs. He was caught up in an operation where others where charged with recreational drug offences and weapons offences. Mr. Tanner was tried and sentenced on steroid related offences only, and if any of you way the indictment and the charges the crown leveled at him, beyond those of the criminal code.....YIKES.

The child porn is a totally separate trial and is still pending.


The crown wanted to set a precendent here and they did just that. The next name branded lab to be busted better have Mr. Greenspan on retainer or be prepared for a significant time away from their loved ones.

**edited by MP**

[natenator]

Your blowing smoke out of your ass buddy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of... Show us some court proceedings that says his sentence of 33 months was for the steroids and steroids alone. The idiot your talking about was busted for child porn. Steroids were his secondary offense. I wish the piece of crap got 33 years instead of 33 months...

Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...
I will repeat. IF this is the real BBB then he has more of a clue about this game than you or I EVER will.

Hard to tell if it is truly him (sounds like his writing) as he has been in hiding for quite a while.

[Vegas]

Your blowing smoke out of your ass buddy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of... Show us some court proceedings that says his sentence of 33 months was for the steroids and steroids alone. The idiot your talking about was busted for child porn. Steroids were his secondary offense. I wish the piece of crap got 33 years instead of 33 months...

Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...

Uh, no. You are completely wrong. 33 months for the steroids charges and two months concurrent for child porn.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1105626.html

[MoooBaby]

Times are chagnign bros. Doedsn't matter if he was a piece of shit, it can be used as a precendent in court and . . yeah. It's not the freebee game it was.

[Mr.Freeze]

Smartass, ban the mother ****er!

Why BAN the mother****er???????

[Mr.Freeze]

Gotta love the guys who create an account just to start shit.

"These aren't the boards your looking for.. carry on"

I hear jedi tricks only work on the weak minded, so I doubt we'll hear from him again. ;)

JUST to Start shit????
what do you mean??

[Mr.Freeze]

**edited by MP**

Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...


WTF??????

[natenator]

Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...


WTF??????
haha nice!!!

:yeah

[Seth]

I can't find any article that corroborates the 33 months sentence thing. It just says he's being sent to jail

[Vegas]

I can't find any article that corroborates the 33 months sentence thing. It just says he's being sent to jail

Again...

http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1105626.html

[tiramisu]

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/media/prosecutions-poursuites/atl/2009-02-09-eng.html

[Seth]

oh, I missed it, thanks

[Sean]

That is a lengthy sentence!! The reality of it though, is he'll serve 1/3 of that (in the Pen) and be out in less then a year..

[Kronis]

**edited by MP**

Why are you such a douche in every single ****ing thread?

[Namelessone]

Why are you such a douche in every single ****ing thread?

Are you still here? Time to run along and play in a new sandbox kiddy...

[natenator]

Are you still here? Time to run along and play in a new sandbox kiddy...
seriously dude. What is your problem?

[warlock]

I hav eto agree with teh original post.


Self incrimination is not cool.

Yes, there is a one in a million chance that LE will actually care about some shit that you post but post enough shit enough times....

I have no idea where the lightning bolt will strike therefore I guess that it is better to protect yourself than be sorry latter on.

[Namelessone]

Why are you such a douche in every single ****ing thread?

Wait I get it... Your probably the clown that created a new account to start this thread and cause shit aren't you? I'm only a douce to people that deserve it... Hiding behind a new alias to start shit deserves it.. In fact, his IP should be banned...

[Mr.Freeze]

Your blowing smoke out of your ass buddy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of... Show us some court proceedings that says his sentence of 33 months was for the steroids and steroids alone. The idiot your talking about was busted for child porn. Steroids were his secondary offense. I wish the piece of crap got 33 years instead of 33 months...

Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...

Why are you freaking out for????

[natenator]

Wait I get it... Your probably the clown that created a new account to start this thread and cause shit aren't you? I'm only a douce to people that deserve it... Hiding behind a new alias to start shit deserves it.. In fact, his IP should be banned...
wow ****. You really are a loser. You got ****ing slammed with facts and you still continue to act like this?

Stick your tail between your legs, say you're sorry and grow the hell up!

[Kronis]

Are you still here? Time to run along and play in a new sandbox kiddy...

Whatever you fat old man. Why don't you have another meltdown and quit the board again...for an hour.


Wait I get it... Your probably the clown that created a new account to start this thread and cause shit aren't you? I'm only a douce to people that deserve it... Hiding behind a new alias to start shit deserves it.. In fact, his IP should be banned...

You're grasping at straws John, I only have one account; which is all I need to see you start shit in every thread. You're a parasite to the board and contribute nothing. :moon

[Namelessone]

Why are you freaking out for????

I'm not freaking out... I just hate seeing someone who clearly created a new account just so they could post this crap. Yeah making gear is against the law and whether it be 3 months 33 months or 33 years the people taking the risk know the risk... Its not new news...

This illusion guy I have ZERO respect for because of the child porn. I'm from NS and if he goes to Dorchester Pen I know for a fact he will get rapped in there... My mother was a county sheriff back home... I'm all too familiar with stories of child molesters and child porn offenders that go to Dorchester.

[Namelessone]

Whatever you fat old man. Why don't you have another meltdown and quit the board again...for an hour.



You're grasping at straws John, I only have one account; which is all I need to see you start shit in every thread. You're a parasite to the board and contribute nothing. :moon

33 years old is an old man?

Everyone is a tough guy online... Gotta love the internet...

I'm not going to waste any time on you and disrespect this board. If you want to argue take it to PMs or in person...

[Mr.Freeze]

What do you mean crap??? What he said is true and thats it!! i realy dont understand your thinking.

By the way cool the **** down!!

[faller]

Why BAN the mother****er???????

Thought it was a spammer, my mistake..

[ergie]

Your cute when your mad ;)


Now go stick a f**king needle in your eye and call it a day...


WTF??????

[Body By Balco]

The powers that be are saying that in this case the child porn was insignificant however given the current climate concerning the offence they had to hand him a token sentence for it. Two months is a nearly freebie and two months concurrent is just about a pass. This was all about the steroids.

They didn't have to nail him on the procedes of crime and seize his assets (he was getting a lengthy incarceration term) UNLESS they wanted to set a precedent AND they have their eyes sighted on bigger fish. Mr. Tanner didn't really own **** all and housing prices in NS are not like they are in other parts of Canada.

So asset forfeiture and significant incarceration for schedule 4 substances (or schedule f or whatever they are calling them these days). Hmmm???

I known of many WITH previous records, charged with what this community believed was far more serious offences, who received less time and no attempt at asset seizure. Some of those offences were drug related, extortion or weapons.

[pinhead]

Did he get charged at the provincial or federal level (if that makes a difference?)

[Kronis]

The powers that be are saying that in this case the child porn was insignificant however given the current climate concerning the offence they had to hand him a token sentence for it. Two months is a nearly freebie and two months concurrent is just about a pass. This was all about the steroids.

They didn't have to nail him on the procedes of crime and seize his assets (he was getting a lengthy incarceration term) UNLESS they wanted to set a precedent AND they have their eyes sighted on bigger fish. Mr. Tanner didn't really own **** all and housing prices in NS are not like they are in other parts of Canada.

So asset forfeiture and significant incarceration for schedule 4 substances (or schedule f or whatever they are calling them these days). Hmmm???

I known of many WITH previous records, charged with what this community believed was far more serious offences, who received less time and no attempt at asset seizure. Some of those offences were drug related, extortion or weapons.
I'm assuming if he only got 2 months for the child porn it was probably just some jailbait pics they came across while searching his computer for steroid info. Keep in mind I'm 100% speculating here, they just tend to be a little more serious and public about catching people with nasty stuff.

As for the seizure of assets I think that's more to do with the money laundering...the govn't loves them some tax dollars and not collecting on every ****ing penny really pisses them off.

As for the "$400,000 in steroids" I've gotta assume that was based on massively inflated per dose prices. I can't see someone sitting on roughly 4000 bottles of gear.

I think where he really ****ed himself was shipping stuff to the states. International drug trafficking is not taken lightly.



You do provincial prison if your term is less then 2 years minus a day. Federal prison for terms above 2 yeas.

This is correct. For things like schedule IV trafficking I believe they are hybrid, meaning they can be tried as summary convictions or indictable offenses; 2 years less a day vs 2 years or more, respectively .

[Body By Balco]

Take a look at what other stories are reported on the CBSA Media Room page.

We have the current story of Mr. Tanner's steroid project, and let's see what else is there to given us an idea as to how the authorities are viewing the significance of his offences.....(it must be quite a feat to even make the Media Room list)


2009

2009-02-09
CBSA joint investigation leads to guilty plea in anabolic steroid case
Atlantic Region

2009-02-03
Third Ottawa street gang member deported from Canada
Northern Ontario Region

2009-01-08
CBSA officers seize guns and ammunition at the border
Prairie Region (including the Northwest Territories)

2008

2008-12-23
Largest drug seizure in New Brunswick
Atlantic Region

2008-12-22
CBSA officers uncover 121 kilos of cocaine
Pacific Region

2008-12-11
CAN$217,000 seized at Cornwall border crossing
Northern Ontario Region

2008-12-09
CBSA officers uncover hash in marine container
Atlantic Region

2008-12-04
Over US$100,000 seized at Niagara border crossings
Niagara/Fort Erie Region

2008-12-02
Over US$400,000 seized at the Saint-Bernard-de-Lacolle border crossing
Quebec Region

2008-12-01
US$85,000 in cash seized at Cornwall border crossing
Northern Ontario Region

2008-11-26
Montréal street gang member deported from Canada
Quebec Region

2008-11-04
Over $11 million of heroin seized at the Port of Halifax
Atlantic Region

2008-09-05
CBSA officers intercept 39 kilos of cocaine
Pacific Region

2008-08-01
Canada Border Services Agency lays 78 criminal charges in illegal firearms investigations
Pacific Region

2008-05-22
Proactive enforcement efforts net huge haul
Greater Toronto Region

2008-04-03
CBSA seizes 46 kilos of cocaine at Sarnia border crossing
Windsor/St. Clair Region

2008-02-19
CBSA officers intercept 67 kilos of cocaine
Pacific Region (including Yukon)

[Namelessone]

Wow.

All of you guys talk so much shit on here its unreal. If you only knew who you were talking to half the time you would smarten up real quick. Just because someone doesn't have a lot of posts doesn't mean he's new to the scene.

Keep flapping your mouths, you look retarded. Its really all most of you are good at.

Bunch of internet drug dealers that think they are cool behind a computer screen that couldn't hack it in the real world. What you are doing is illegal and comes with consequences. You talk so freely about everything like no one is watching or cares about juice. Give your head a shake times have changed and those who change with the times will be around and those who don't will go bye bye.


This is directed at no one in particular.

You are absolutely right and I plead guilty of being an a--hole... My apologies to the original poster. He was correct and I was wrong. Also my apologies to Kronis as well. I shouldn't have gone off the handle at him regardless of what his response to mine was. From now on if I have something that isn't appropriate to say I will do it in a PM...

Again, my apologies..

[littlemantate]

wrong time of the month. My wife acts the same way..Hey maybe that is my wife .....honey is that you

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I'm glad you guys calmed down.


Now to what's happened. It's pretty serious as BBB said. This involved no recs and no weapons. The only thing to clearly state though is that the majority of the sentencing would logically be for the import/export charge. That would be the most serious offence. Trafficking etc is another. That is what he got jailed for.

Popping a dbol pill won't land you in jail...BUUUUT....how you go about obtaining it might land you in hot water. Stay safe and don't do anything illegal is the best advice I can give you guys. Check out my canadian steroid laws thread if you haven't already. It's a sticky in this forum.

As for UG labs. They know the risk and the consequence now.

As for CBB, this site is for informational use. Freedom of speech allows you to speak about things like steroids. What is not allowed is to obtain them through the site or conspire to obtain. I have repeated this for years now. Don't put yourself, the board, or myself at risk. Use common sense now.

[ironwill]

Thanks for the info and updates Body by Balco....Good to see you aboard....I believe you are a good asset here and i hope some dont chase you away..
:welc

[Big D]

thanks for the info BBB

[Seth]

disregard this post, I thought we were still at page 3

[#8]

MP is right. Show some respect for him and this board and post with common sense. Precedent has been set, lets be a LOT smarter about how things are done. Use your melons boys

[Big D]

MP is right. Show some respect for him and this board and post with common sense. Precedent has been set, lets be a LOT smarter about how things are done. Use your melons boys

x2

I find lately, alot of the new guys joining try to bring some good info and they get attacked right away.

[natenator]

x2

I find lately, alot of the new guys joining try to bring some good info and they get attacked right away.
BBB may be new to some guys here but to some of the vets of old days he is not new. Most if not all would do well to sit quietly in the corner and let him dazzle us with his theories, human body magic tricks (Vit. C IV rig anyone? lol) and try to comprehend what he has to say IF he chooses to keep posting...

[Born2Juice4Ever]

I'll be dammed...Body By Balco posting on the sites again hu?

[pinhead]

. Check out my canadian steroid laws thread if you haven't already. It's a sticky in this forum.



Here you go
Steroid Laws Canada (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1278)

[pinhead]

I'll be dammed...Body By Balco posting on the sites again hu?

Now all we need is bloodrage, dr M, lunkhead, bdh etc and we'll all be family again :ne

[Kronis]

Now all we need is bloodrage, dr M, lunkhead, bdh etc and we'll all be family again :ne

I thought bloodrage and BDH posted here?

[pinhead]

BDH I saw a few times. Bloodrage way back when the site was young and I never saw him again.

[ironwill]

I miss doc M....he was a good fella....So are the others mentioned but i still see them here and there. M dissappeared..

[Seth]

His last post


Take care all.

This cat is retired.

[pinhead]

His last post

What's it dated?

[Seth]

'07 I think

[proximo]

Hey guys. What impact do you think this will have on Canada's UG market?

[proximo]

It would be a shame to lose all of our great products. Some good UG labs around this country.

[srt8]

I could see a few shutting down after this, depends if they feel the risk is worth the reward.

[Big D]

its unfortunate, that some of the labs will disappear. they have been making some top notch stuff lately.

[CBB loves Japan]

wasn't there guns found as well? And wouldn't his shipment to the USA have played a major role in the extent of his punishment?

[CBB loves Japan]

It would be a shame, but unfortunately with how little margin there is left in these great products, I could definately see a lot of labs closing the doors.

It's a shame that so many people over the years have tried to break into the market by simply under-cutting, rather than building solid, and trustworthy business relationships.

The problem now though, is that the risk probably won't be worth the reward as there are countless people in this industry willing to sell things just for the sake of $5. Canada's UG scene is slowly dwindling, and with the Olympics coming soon I have a feeling the market-place will soon become very small.


Very well said flexy, good knowledgeable man

[ironwill]

Well said Flexy....That is why you are my future ex-wife...:)

[natenator]

It would be a shame, but unfortunately with how little margin there is left in these great products, I could definately see a lot of labs closing the doors.

It's a shame that so many people over the years have tried to break into the market by simply under-cutting, rather than building solid, and trustworthy business relationships.

The problem now though, is that the risk probably won't be worth the reward as there are countless people in this industry willing to sell things just for the sake of $5. Canada's UG scene is slowly dwindling, and with the Olympics coming soon I have a feeling the market-place will soon become very small.
Agreed 100% but sadly I don't believe the labs are the one's undercutting so much as they know people always look for cheaper alternatives.

If people would stay loyal to labs they like despite another lab having a better price than we'd see little variation in pricing and customers would stay with labs they liked best.

I'd bet my left nut 95% of the people on this board have given another lab a go simply because they offered a better price. I blame the customer for not being loyal than I do the other lab for selling it cheaper.

[quebecbulk]

Agreed 100% but sadly I don't believe the labs are the one's undercutting so much as they know people always look for cheaper alternatives.

If people would stay loyal to labs they like despite another lab having a better price than we'd see little variation in pricing and customers would stay with labs they liked best.

I'd bet my left nut 95% of the people on this board have given another lab a go simply because they offered a better price. I blame the customer for not being loyal than I do the other lab for selling it cheaper.


Agree 100%

[Namelessone]

Agreed 100% but sadly I don't believe the labs are the one's undercutting so much as they know people always look for cheaper alternatives.

If people would stay loyal to labs they like despite another lab having a better price than we'd see little variation in pricing and customers would stay with labs they liked best.

I'd bet my left nut 95% of the people on this board have given another lab a go simply because they offered a better price. I blame the customer for not being loyal than I do the other lab for selling it cheaper.

Very well said Natenator. I've been with the same lab for years and have no interest in changing. Sure I will try other lab's gear but I won't take all my business from the lab I have been loyal to for so long.

[Namelessone]

wasn't there guns found as well? And wouldn't his shipment to the USA have played a major role in the extent of his punishment?

I'm 99% sure that I remember reading he was found with guns as well as child porn. I'm also sure the exporting would play a major role. I'm also confident that although the child porn only landed him a lesser part of the sentence it surely was frowned on in the court room and aided in such a strict punishment.

I happen to have inside information of a rep for a lab that was recently busted here in Toronto and all he got was a slap on the wrist. I won't divulge information in public so if you want to know more PM me...

In summary I think our labs just need to be smart. Don't sell outside of Canada and don't deal with rec drugs, guns or child porn...

[vegan_hunter]

In the end, It comes down to simple supply and demand. I agree that in the future with the 2010 olympics on the horizon, and the man getting a hard on for any type of Steroid bust.... supply will be out stripped by the demand.

I can't see prices staying so low forever...... some people havent been around long enough to remember when there were no UG labs, and steroids actually were hard to get. Not even I'm old enough to remember that, but i know alot of people that are. Who knows.... maybe one day we'll back where this all started.

[drdnj]

steroids actually were hard to get. Not even I'm old enough to remember that, but i know alot of people that are. Who knows.... maybe one day we'll back where this all started.

I remember those days......back when finding shit meant going up to the biggest bastard in Golds Thornhill to find gear-----scary prospect for a 19yr old guy.

[BDH]

Hey BBB... nice to see you back around... did you miss me???

[ironwill]

Hey BBB... nice to see you back around... did you miss me???

He said yes he missed you, like a pimple on his dink...or something like that...
:friday
Where do you keep disappearing to BDH???I kinda miss you...:o

[MoooBaby]

In the end, It comes down to simple supply and demand. I agree that in the future with the 2010 olympics on the horizon, and the man getting a hard on for any type of Steroid bust.... supply will be out stripped by the demand.

I can't see prices staying so low forever...... some people havent been around long enough to remember when there were no UG labs, and steroids actually were hard to get. Not even I'm old enough to remember that, but i know alot of people that are. Who knows.... maybe one day we'll back where this all started.

It's never as good as it is when you think it's good and it's never as bad as you think it is when it's bad. This is the last coulple years shit will be cheap and easy to get like this. I don't care much either way. The less people on gear the better.

[PrinceofPersia]

He was busted due to badly packaged stuff from China. The child porn was teen girls in pigtails and would have been dismissed except for a deal to halve..yes halve his sentence for the steroids. They were asking for 5+ years. The entire bust was a media show because the Olympics are coming to Canada and we must put on our pretty faces. And there are feds all over this board.

Anyone got any good recipes for protein shakes?

[Tiamat]

Probably LE has been on this board and many other boards for awhile. That's why nothing illegal is allowed. We sort of all stay safe that way.

[cdnsoldier]

Child porn? WTF? If true I hope he gets 33 years never mind 33 mths,

They don't charge you for child porn in Canada for "adults in pig tails".

[hyperlite32]

This has been one of the most interesting threads I have ever read. Lots of good/bad comments.

I dont think the UGL's are going anywhere, might be a goode idea to stay safe, lay low and keep the UG talk to ZERO. Till after we win every event in the olympics. You know we have great UGL's here in canada, right?

[Tiamat]

7-8 months till Dday. I think a lot of people should be VERY careful in that amount of time. If something were to happen, it would be soon so it can hit the news before the olympics that Canada is a safe anti-steroid county. It's all political. A good number of law enforcement officers have taken or are taking steroids. In my opinion, it should almost be mandatory so they can easily overpower someone violating the law. Military too should have AAS readily available to them.

[Drummer]

what is going on here? everyone gets all antsy cause some dude gets busted? its illegal guys... importing, exporting espcially. Manufacturing is a BIG one too. Always has been. take it easy...

im betting most of us are not taking those risks.

the guy in question obviously made big enemies in law enforcement. that will influence his harsh sentence. common sense man. let it go!

~D~

[Tiamat]

Stay safe, buy locally from a gym. It's super rare anyone gets busted that way.

[JonnyO]

Is this the guy that played a steroid dealer in The Wrestler as well his 2nd offense of this nature???

[Tiamat]

No. I don't think so.

[rob66679]

The powers that be are saying that in this case the child porn was insignificant however given the current climate concerning the offence they had to hand him a token sentence for it. Two months is a nearly freebie and two months concurrent is just about a pass. This was all about the steroids.

They didn't have to nail him on the procedes of crime and seize his assets (he was getting a lengthy incarceration term) UNLESS they wanted to set a precedent AND they have their eyes sighted on bigger fish. Mr. Tanner didn't really own **** all and housing prices in NS are not like they are in other parts of Canada.

So asset forfeiture and significant incarceration for schedule 4 substances (or schedule f or whatever they are calling them these days). Hmmm???

I known of many WITH previous records, charged with what this community believed was far more serious offences, who received less time and no attempt at asset seizure. Some of those offences were drug related, extortion or weapons.

This guy was from a very small community, and paid off his mortgage in like a year. He also put a lot of money into investment accounts, money he didn't even try to clean up as far as I know. While his house might not have been worth much, he still has to account how he paid it off that fast working at Home Hardware.
From what the paper said it all started when Customs intercepted raw powders coming in from China for a Mr "Scott Free" .The investigation started from there. I'm pretty sure the child porn was secondary, it was found when they searched the computer he was using to conduct his business.
The Halifax Chronicle Herald has been following this from the start.
I think there was a plea bargain involved too, there was no trial for the steroid offences.
This went down a while ago, why is everyone so feaked today?

[cdnsoldier]

This guy was from a very small community, and paid off his mortgage in like a year. He also put a lot of money into investment accounts, money he didn't even try to clean up as far as I know. While his house might not have been worth much, he still has to account how he paid it off that fast working at Home Hardware.
From what the paper said it all started when Customs intercepted raw powders coming in from China for a Mr "Scott Free" .The investigation started from there. I'm pretty sure the child porn was secondary, it was found when they searched the computer he was using to conduct his business.
The Halifax Chronicle Herald has been following this from the start.
I think there was a plea bargain involved too, there was no trial for the steroid offences.
This went down a while ago, why is everyone so feaked today?

Nice post and very, very good question. Seems like other agendas at work here. Seems like certain people want to create and environment of hysteria and panic for $ertain reason$.

And oh to the people saying the "child porn" is a minor issue- No it's not. They didn't have the warrant for the child porn so prosecution for it is more complex than what they went in looking for. BUT I am glad though. It seems that 2 mths. concurrent means shit but it means much more than that. With Steroids only he's a Level 2 offender in the CPB's eyes. With porn it bumps him up to a Level 1 so that disqualifies him for fast track.


So if he was only a steroid dealer and no previous federal he would have done 1/6 of his time in jail, and then 1/6 in a half way home and the rest on a simple once a month parole.

NOW with the child porn he's a sexual offender (PC and targeted in jail), he will do at least 1/3 in jail (at least), 1/3 at a half way home specializing in sexual offenders (Like Keele here in Toronto) and have to do a VERY tight parole.

**** him anyways. He's a molester so why the sympathy? Because he won Mr. NS?

Moral of the story: If you deal steroids, DEAL only in steroids. That means screwthe illegal guns. And most of all don't keep childporn on the compter you do biz on.

[Bowlcut]

Was he convicted of the child porn?
One wonders if they weren't trumped up charges because all we may know he had pictures of his baby in the bath tub.
Maybe I am just suspicious of LE, but if convicted then the doubts will go away.

[cdnsoldier]

Was he convicted of the child porn?
One wonders if they weren't trumped up charges because all we may know he had pictures of his baby in the bath tub.
Maybe I am just suspicious of LE, but if convicted then the doubts will go away.

First of all , If you think the cops would charge you with child porn for pics like that then you are mistaken. They take the charges very seriously and wouldn't diminish them in court for "baby pictures". If he was charged for child porn it probably was hardcore stuff and he accepted the guilty plea. If he wasn't guilty he would have fought it tooth and nail. Who te hell wants that shit on their record? And who thehell wants to go to jail on that particuliar charge? It also disqualifies him for fast track and makes him Number one priorty for teh NPB. No way he accepts teh charge if eh wasn't caught.

Every 9/10 steroid related busts I hear aboit usually involve " HUGE STEROID BUST!!!" and h yeah he was caught with oxycontin,coke, child pron, illegal handguns etc.


I always say- If you're going to deal the juice do not do anything else. If you get caught you want to face the judge as a STEROID only dealer and not some whacked out loser.

[rob66679]

Something else I noticed was recently a guy was caught trying to bring 26k pills in from Turkey on a plane to Halifax. The end result was a $1000 fine, and I think a discharge.
The judge noted that steroid posession wasn't illegal, and the prosecution didn't go after trafficking charges.
Kinda seems inconsistent with Tanner going to jail.

After reading how ORD went down in the states, I would be very surprised if LE hasn't already made posts on this board trying to make some "friends".

[Blitz-Test]

33 months but he still get chance of parol right?

Non Narcotic in Canada, is almost garuanteed parol, so hell serve 11 months... Not that harsh...

[8heyzeus4]

I hate to play devils advocate here, but a 33 month prison term doesn't seem like much for "two charges under the Customs Act, three charges under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, one charge under the Food and Drugs Act and two charges under the Criminal Code for money laundering and proceeds offenses".

I'm sorry but considering what Tanner was charged with he wasnt given (what most Canadians would consider) a lengthy prison term for ONLY steroid related charges. 2 years and 9 months, of which he will probably only serve half for isnt much for "2 charges under the Customs Act (probably related to importing raw material and exporting to the states), one charge under the Food and Drugs Act (most likely to do with the manufacturing of Clomid, Nolva, Viagra, etc.) and 2 C.C.C. charges for money laundering and proceeds of crime. The fact is only 3 of the 8 charges were under the CDSA so only 3 of the charges were directly related to possession, manufacturing and distribution of AAS. I'm sure Tanner, much like anyone else in his position, knows the risks involved in running an organized criminal enterprise. If this were any other 1st world country he would be serving a much much MUCH longer sentence. If you add the child porn charges to his character and its not hard to see how they came up with a 33 month sentence. Its a long time to spend in the bucket, but what do you expect?

[cdnsoldier]

33 months but he still get chance of parol right?

Non Narcotic in Canada, is almost garuanteed parol, so hell serve 11 months... Not that harsh...


In Canada only a DO doesn't have chance for parole but that's not even 100% true because technically they still can apply.

This dude will do more than 11 mths. due to the child porn charges.

If it was juice only and it was his first fed sentence he was 95% guarenteed a fast track. The child porn changes that. Legally they will release him at the 2/3 mark ( every one gets mandatory parole at that point unless it's judge defined as in murder one). The NPP makes certain all sexual offenders have to finsih in jail "programs" so they wil make sure he stays as long as legally possible. And child porn? Forget it. My guess is he does 20 mths in jail at least, 8 in a half way home and the few days remaining on 1x a week parole.

[rob66679]

I think Its 2/3 served before parole for provincial time, 1/3 for federal time.
So in some cases you would actually spend less time in jail if you were sentenced to federal time ( more than 2 years ).
I'm not sure that he's been convicted on the kiddie porn charges. If he does go down for that too it will be a LONG year in Dorchester.

Seems like he was a little too successful for his own good, I mean importing under the name "Scott Free"? Paying your house off completely, putting dirty money in the bank...... While living in Rural NS, where nobody knows how to mind their business.

[cdnsoldier]

I think Its 2/3 served before parole for provincial time, 1/3 for federal time.
So in some cases you would actually spend less time in jail if you were sentenced to federal time ( more than 2 years ).
I'm not sure that he's been convicted on the kiddie porn charges. If he does go down for that too it will be a LONG year in Dorchester.

Seems like he was a little too successful for his own good, I mean importing under the name "Scott Free"? Paying your house off completely, putting dirty money in the bank...... While living in Rural NS, where nobody knows how to mind their business.


Provincial- 2/3 of your time, relased on probation.

Federal- 1/6 Fast Track if you are Level 2 +3 crime and first time offender
Level 1 Offender and Repeat Fed Offenders- Can apply for parole after 1/3 is served. Will they get it? Some do and theone sthat do finish the 1/3 in a half way home and then full parole. 80%+ don't. A sexual offender is almost guarnteed to serve at least 2/3 in jail then paroled under tight conditions and sometimes will completethe whole sentence under supervision of a half way home.

He went from regular ho hum drug dealer to "wtf?" dealer. Plus the fact that it was extensively covered means he gets "media"points on his parole assestment. He'll do at least 2/3 of that sentnece in jail and a halfway home.

[rob66679]

Hopefully he managed to hide some of it..
The Crown seemed to think he did, when they did the agreed statement of facts for the plea bargain, what he actually made was the only part Tanner didn't agree with.

[guest]

giant investigation. hundreds of kgs. CBSA and OCA involvement. it's not foolish to suspect the authorities of stretching the truth in an attempt to leverage co-operation.

i hope the guy get what he deserves....good or bad.

[baza]

Something else I noticed was recently a guy was caught trying to bring 26k pills in from Turkey on a plane to Halifax. The end result was a $1000 fine, and I think a discharge.
The judge noted that steroid posession wasn't illegal, and the prosecution didn't go after trafficking charges.
Kinda seems inconsistent with Tanner going to jail.

I dont' know much about the NS case, but as someone mentioned, they flew in witnesses, etc. Was obviously well investigated and planned out. It's a lot easier to make the charges stick.
Even though the guy had 26,000pills it's hard to prove he was going to traffic them. Sounds stupid, but that is how it works.

You will see more busts as the Olympics come up. It happened in Australia, it happened in China, it will happen here, and it will happen in the UK.
I'm sure a part of this sentencing was to set an example, and as you can see, it worked.

[rob66679]

The more i think about it, the more paranoid I get about some of the things I have seen on this board.... LE knows the internet is how Tanner marketed his product and obtained his raw powders.
Everybody knows how ORD went down..all revolved around the net... This is a pretty loose board even though there is no source talk...

[cdnsoldier]

The more i think about it, the more paranoid I get about some of the things I have seen on this board.... LE knows the internet is how Tanner marketed his product and obtained his raw powders.
Everybody knows how ORD went down..all revolved around the net... This is a pretty loose board even though there is no source talk...


THIS is a loose board? LOL. Any cop on other boards can get to steroids and harder stuff in a matter of minutes. This is probably one of the more discreete boards out there. I don't think it's fair laying charges like that when some boards look like a Vegas style billboard advertising the juice. And if you think this is the only Canadian board you're wrong. We have some PM style Canadian boards that are wide, wide open.

The bottom line is if you are selling steroids or drugs you have to cover your own ass. Plain and simple. If you are in the game that means you have to know how to play it.

I won't mention any board names but It took me all of 5 days to find a ton of the guys selling Canadian UGL .Some boards are wide open to the public. Discreetion has never, and will never be, part of internet lore. If you deal online you better make sure they can't trace the money to you. If they can you're in the worng business.

[Tiamat]

Whatever you guys do, just keep it off CBB. I love this site :)

[dinosaur]

I agree with cdnsoldier. Although I don't really know any other boards, I've never had anyone try to sell me anything on CBB.

It may be 'loose' in a sense that we're open to talking about everything except obvious things like how and where to buy, which this board isn't about, clearly.

I like how we're free to discuss personal use, but that buying/selling does not go on around here. Or anything like that. As far as I know.

This is the only board I go on, so I can't really compare, but I feel safe that nobody is doing anything illegal here and the ones who try to get the boot!

[LIVEHARD]

Yes however his 33 month sentence relates ONLY to the steroid charges. He was not found in possession of any recreational drugs. He was caught up in an operation where others where charged with recreational drug offenses and weapons offenses. Mr. Tanner was tried and sentenced on steroid related offenses only, and if any of you way the indictment and the charges the crown leveled at him, beyond those of the criminal code.....YIKES.

The child porn is a totally separate trial and is still pending.


The crown wanted to set a precedent here and they did just that. The next name branded lab to be busted better have Mr. Green span on retainer or be prepared for a significant time away from their loved ones.

Some times in a case like this even though its old. They hit the easy conviction first hoping he will turn all the others in up the ladder.

With the child porn pending you know his life is brutal on the inside guilty or not.

So the system will manipulate this but never publicly ( That would be illegal )

Many trials end in hallways or behind closed door long before they start>

[LIVEHARD]

I'm speaking of Illusion.

I guess times have changed. Perhaps, although I doubt, this notion of slap on the wrist steroid offences will disappear. 33 months is a prison term and it was only for the steroid offences. He still has another trial pending for other charges.

Oh well, this community is it's own worst enemy. Keep posting your pitcures and talking about labs. With the Olympics coming I sure it will help the cause.

great advice !!!!!!!