First cycle questions

[Thorgrim]

OK, so I was going to do 500mg test En a week for 10 weeks just to try it out and Nolva for PCT. I had read on another board that it was a good idea to run test only for a first cycle so you would get a good idea how your body reacted and be able to compare future stacks effectiveness or pinpoint sides more effectively.

I have a friend who introduced me to a rep and thought everything was good to go but when I get my stuff there is only half the Test and no Nolva. I talk to the guy and he says there was a mix up and it is resolved and on the way and after 3-4 weeks still nothing. I can't get a hold of the guy now must be ignoring me.

Should I even bother running what I have now? I am a bit hesitant since I have read shorter cycles, especially with longer acting esters don't work that well. Could I lower the dosage? I think at 300mg a week I get just over 8 weeks worth. Also with the crap this guy has pulled I wonder if the stuff I did get is even legit? It is mexican, I don't remember all the details off hand, I could post a pic later tonight.

Also if I wait until I can get some more stuff is there a better starter cycle? What would you recommend for PCT?

[Big D]

for your starter cycle test only is perfect, a good friend of mine just did a 12 week cycle at 500mg/week and had excellent gains. for pct you can either use nolva or clomid, I would keep the nolva on hand during the cycle just incase you get estrogen side effects like gyno.

and for you gear you can post up pics if you want, but if you cant trust your source i wouldnt use the gear,,

start posting more often here, get to know the people and someone might help you out.

[Boulderer77]

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[Kiem]

It's not worth it to do a 8week cycle dude. Save up and find a better source until you can get 12 weeks worth at 400-500mg of Test. You'll probably feel the test-e kick in around the 4-5 week and then you would only have few weeks left. Not worth it in my opinion.

[Dk]

Just wait till you can get your hands on enough test to do a full 12 weeker.

Dont burn out your "first cycle gains" on an 8 week cycle of enth at 300mg a week.

[tex]

wait. ppl who start cycles without everything they need to finish usually end up back here asking all sorts of retarded questions that amount to nothing more than fishing......which is kinda what this sounds like anyways.....not to be a dick...good luck....i hope you get your gear!

[methadone]

most importantly, you said you didnt get your nolvadex...so that means no, you'll just lose whatever little gains you'll get off of 300mg for 8 weeks

[ezturbo]

Test E for 16 weeks. First cycle. Beauty.

[Mr.Freeze]

16 Week Cycle for is first Cycle?? :wtf

[ezturbo]

16 Week Cycle for is first Cycle?? :wtf

It's test only? Sure why not. For some people, me included, it took 8 weeks to kick. Why not get the most out of a body shock like that. Strength gains may short up but the development never quits. IMHO. Don't flame lol.

[Mr.Freeze]

ok maybe you take 8 weeks to react but that doesnt mean every newbiee
react like you, so to be on the safe side it would be better to tell him 12 weeks like everybody else no?

[ezturbo]

I know boat loads of dudes who took at least 6-8 weeks for the kick. Not only first cyclers. Maybe at 12 weeks evaluate your progress, but don't be scared to stretch it on a bit. =P

[Mr.Freeze]

im not saying your not right its just better be safe then sorry, you know how people are the speed limit is 100km/h and everybody goes 120km/h so if you tell the guy yeah yeah no problem you could go 120km/h their is a good chance that the guy will end up rolling at 140km/h.
You see what i mean?

[ezturbo]

Absolutly. Certain advice requires certain responsibilty and shouldn't just be spit. Especially if the consequences won't be my own. My mistake.

[Mr.Freeze]

cool :a+

[Born2Juice4Ever]

First cycle is the best IMO but the 10th, 20th....things get better and better.

Some good advise offered in this thread:
-start slow
-use test as your backbone
-test only would be awesome starting point


As a rule of thumb, ALWAYS collect all the compounds needed PRIOR to cycle start.
Make sure you have all of your bottles, all of your PCT compound(s) ready, enough needles and extras, rubbing alcohol...the whole nine yards; this will ensure a successful stress-free cycle.
Some people even go as far as stocking up on a good 3-5 10pounder whey protein buckets...this way you never run out of "food"



B2J

[Thorgrim]

Thanks for all the help guys.

So 12 weeks at 500mg/week is a pretty good starter cycle it sounds like. I suspected from what I had read on this board and others that doing a half assed cycle would probably just be a waste of time.


for pct you can either use nolva or clomid, I would keep the nolva on hand during the cycle just in case you get estrogen side effects like gyno.


I think I understand how the Nolva works to block estrogen receptors. Which is why I would have it in case any bad sides show up mid cycle right? Does this also help kick start natural test production or just block the side effects?

For the clomid I am not as sure what it does. Would both be best?

[Thorgrim]

Not trying to be a dick, but I would recommend you do some more research. Lots of information on the board that can help you plan out a good first cycle. Do a search on "first cycle". Soak up the info. Read up, then post up a revision to this first cycle. Lots of good guys on here with years of experience will step up to help.

I will do some more reading and then post up what I have planned.

I was pretty eager to get started but I will take everyones advice and make sure I have everything on hand first and do it right. I don't want to be one of those guys that gets gyno (and no gains) because of their own stupidity.

[Boulderer77]

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