ManInTheBox
04-08-2007, 06:34 PM
New poster at this sight, so first things first, some stats to start off:
Age:24
Height:6'0
Weight:221lbs
Heaviest Weight: 265lbs
Experience in wieght training:9 years
Years Bodybuilding:6
AAS Experience: 4 cycles in around 3 years
Goal for Bulk in next 5 months: 260+ lbs trying not to break 14-15%bf
Ok, so I've been pondering on my next cycle and I plan on introducing Tren as I feel I have gained enough experience and understand well enough how my body reacts to juice.Here are my thoughts:
Test E wks 1-12 @ 500mg/wk
Tren Ace wks 1-6 @50mg ED
Winny wks 8-12 @ 50mg orally ED
POSSIBLY Dbol wks 1-4 @ 35mg ED
Cycle Ancilliaries: arimidex 0.5mg/day
finasteride 1.5mg/day if Tren effects hairline
Cabergoline is available in case I run into prog gyno
PCT: Nolva 40mg ED 1st week, 20mg ED thereafter for 4 more weeks
Clomid 100mg ED 1st week, 50mg ED thereafter for 4 more weeks
The reason I'm none too sure about Dbol is that it is the only compound that I have tried thus far that seriously effects my BP and lipids. My bp on dbol alone can shoot up 15-20 pts. As I've never done Tren before, I am unsure how Tren will impact my bp and was thinking of playing it safe this cycle and evaluating my response to Tren, although some people seem to think If bp is a problem I could easily drop the dbol and still continue with the Tren. Thankfully however, my baseline blood pressure is a normal 120/80.
As far as estrogenic side effects are concerned, left untreated, I develop gyno symptoms around week 8 on plain test. However the effects are not that serious as nolva and letrozole took care of the issue the one particular time I allowed it to occur (during my first cycle of test only I wanted to see if I was gyno prone). For subsequent cycles, proviorn alone seemed to do the trick and using proviron I never developed any noticeable estrogenic symptoms. This time I will be using arimidex as my current domestic source does not stock proviron. No biggie as people have told me adex is much better.
As I've never used Deca or Tren before, I have no idea what I'll be getting in to as far as progestin gyno is concerned though I'm sure If i develop gyno while on adex I can be certain it is from the Tren. People have suggested supplementing with 600mg of vitamin B-6 A day to stave off any progestin related gyno so I'll try that but am keeping cabergoline on hand just in case.
I have read around that finasteride won't help with hairloss from Tren. Any info here would be appreciated as if that is the case, i can save myself a few bucks by dropping it.
*phew*
Anyways, thanks for taking the time to read this. Any thoughts and/or comments would be much appreciated!
Age:24
Height:6'0
Weight:221lbs
Heaviest Weight: 265lbs
Experience in wieght training:9 years
Years Bodybuilding:6
AAS Experience: 4 cycles in around 3 years
Goal for Bulk in next 5 months: 260+ lbs trying not to break 14-15%bf
Ok, so I've been pondering on my next cycle and I plan on introducing Tren as I feel I have gained enough experience and understand well enough how my body reacts to juice.Here are my thoughts:
Test E wks 1-12 @ 500mg/wk
Tren Ace wks 1-6 @50mg ED
Winny wks 8-12 @ 50mg orally ED
POSSIBLY Dbol wks 1-4 @ 35mg ED
Cycle Ancilliaries: arimidex 0.5mg/day
finasteride 1.5mg/day if Tren effects hairline
Cabergoline is available in case I run into prog gyno
PCT: Nolva 40mg ED 1st week, 20mg ED thereafter for 4 more weeks
Clomid 100mg ED 1st week, 50mg ED thereafter for 4 more weeks
The reason I'm none too sure about Dbol is that it is the only compound that I have tried thus far that seriously effects my BP and lipids. My bp on dbol alone can shoot up 15-20 pts. As I've never done Tren before, I am unsure how Tren will impact my bp and was thinking of playing it safe this cycle and evaluating my response to Tren, although some people seem to think If bp is a problem I could easily drop the dbol and still continue with the Tren. Thankfully however, my baseline blood pressure is a normal 120/80.
As far as estrogenic side effects are concerned, left untreated, I develop gyno symptoms around week 8 on plain test. However the effects are not that serious as nolva and letrozole took care of the issue the one particular time I allowed it to occur (during my first cycle of test only I wanted to see if I was gyno prone). For subsequent cycles, proviorn alone seemed to do the trick and using proviron I never developed any noticeable estrogenic symptoms. This time I will be using arimidex as my current domestic source does not stock proviron. No biggie as people have told me adex is much better.
As I've never used Deca or Tren before, I have no idea what I'll be getting in to as far as progestin gyno is concerned though I'm sure If i develop gyno while on adex I can be certain it is from the Tren. People have suggested supplementing with 600mg of vitamin B-6 A day to stave off any progestin related gyno so I'll try that but am keeping cabergoline on hand just in case.
I have read around that finasteride won't help with hairloss from Tren. Any info here would be appreciated as if that is the case, i can save myself a few bucks by dropping it.
*phew*
Anyways, thanks for taking the time to read this. Any thoughts and/or comments would be much appreciated!