How should I stay on HCG?

[grifter]

I was on an 18 week cycle of axio sustaplex (650mg/wk) and tren hex (200mg/wk) with about 5 weeks of xxx eq (400mg/wk) in the middle of the cycle.
I have been on 1000iu's/wk of HCG for the past 3 weeks. During weeks 17-18 I started to get a little sensitive around the nipple area so I started taking 40mg nolva ed. I stopped the nolva after the 2nd shot of HCG.

No sensitivity around the nipples anymore, the boys feel like there back where they should be. Should I continue with another 2 weeks of HCG followed by Nolva or can I just jump onto the next cycle?

I know I should probably wait 1-3 months before jumping on again to give my body a break, but I have no will power. The next cycle is sitting in a drawer waiting for me.

Thoughts?

[Solo59]

Get some willpower and good sense.

You're asking for permanent shut-down.

You were on 20 weeks including PCT, you should be off 20 weeks too.

Check around on the potential price you'll pay <http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62193>.

Solo

[jmaker]

Time on = Time off

or else the second option..

Time off = time on

take your pick..

[Kilburn]

Time on = Time off

or else the second option..

Time off = time on

take your pick..

i dont get the second option.. i was off for the first 21 years of my life. so that means i can go on for 21 years?

[Seth]

i dont get the second option.. i was off for the first 21 years of my life. so that means i can go on for 21 years?

precisely :D

[jmaker]

yep.. been on for 15 years and going strong. Nothing a little nolva can't put back together.

hmmmmm... now where did I leave my nuts, haven't seen em for ages.

[tony_canuck]

btw: if you run a long cycle, i would suggest running a little hcg throughout it for the last half of the cycle. keeps your boys working and makes the transition to come off easier. you don't need a lot of keep them going, i run 250iu 2-3 times a week and i still have my boys hanging around.

[tex]

i dont think you need 20 weeks off.....but if you are going to come off I would give 8-10 weeks....otherwise you should just go to a cruise dose of test......

[grifter]

Thanks for the replies.
During the (3-4 month) break how long should I stay on HCG. I have been on HCG for 3 weeks and things appear normal, no blood work yet to show for sure.
I also read not to take HCG and Nolva together. Use HCG first and then introduce the nolva after HCG is finished. Any truth to this? I have used both in the past at the same time.

[natenator]

would be interested to read what Praetorian would say.

[Solo59]

i dont think you need 20 weeks off.....but if you are going to come off I would give 8-10 weeks....otherwise you should just go to a cruise dose of test......
A cruise dose of test? In other words, don't come off. Not good advice at all for a young man who is not in professional competition. If you don't cycle off, how can you have the great pleasure of beginning a new cycle again?

The facts are in. Those who don't come off-cycle pay a significant price. It doesn't matter if you say you've been on for years and feel great, you're still wearing down nature's machinery and a price will be paid. Some are willing to pay it, it seems, but young guys should be made aware of the cost of staying on roids for most of their adult life.

Solo

[damien888]

You can try bridging with slin or hgh? that way you will allow your HPTA to recover, while maintaining new muscle.

However, if you do decide to go on, imo a low dosage but longer cycle will avoid a shit load of side effects and medical issues. also make sure you get your blood work done every 6 weeks.

[tony_canuck]

Thanks for the replies.
During the (3-4 month) break how long should I stay on HCG. I have been on HCG for 3 weeks and things appear normal, no blood work yet to show for sure.
I also read not to take HCG and Nolva together. Use HCG first and then introduce the nolva after HCG is finished. Any truth to this? I have used both in the past at the same time.



see, technically you shouldn't be on hcg when you're off everything. you want to be off and having your body run normally, without anything forcing it to work, like hcg which is kick-starting your body's own production. That's why if you run it during the last few weeks of your cycle then maybe run it for another week when you've stopped your gear, your boys having now been working for several weeks. Then you start the nolva and bring the estrogen down to below your bodies level and your body the starts to produce test.

[Solo59]

It's an "HPTA", which means your hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular-axis. You need all three vital organs functioning to balance your body's needs and produce natural amounts of hormones. HCG is great for making the testicular part of the axis work, but, in doing so, it cuts off the hypothalamus and pituitary by sending them signals that the testicles are producing enough sperm & testosterone right now. HCG only keeps one aspect of the HPT axis going, but cuts off the other two – the executive, if you will. Like the guy above says, you've got to get off everything, including HCG, to complete your natural recovery.

Solo