Worth adding in GH ?

[Mister T 72]

As a 37 year old that has plans to NEVER compete and simply lifts for the enjoyment and uses AAS to further my physique,is it worth it for me to add in GH @ say 2iu ED using a 5 on / 2 off protocol??

6 ft
245 ish pds
currently cruising with Test cyp @ 250 mg / week

Next cycle will be my biggest and longest @ a planned 20 weeks
The first 10 weeks of products hasn't been decided yet....but i'm leaning towards Test Prop @ 200 mg EOD / NPP @ 200 mg EOD / 5 or 6 weeks of D-Bol @ 60 mg ED...the final 10 weeks is looking like Test Prop @ 200mg EOD / Tren A @ 150mg EOD / Anavar @ 80 mg ED and a dose of T-3..50mcg ED ?

Personally the GH seems a bit expensive for my tastes and personal goals....but I would appreciate personal experience and feedback

[L3]

-dont mix the npp and tren, finish one before starting the other
-dbol @ 60 for 5-6 weeks is too high/long, either shorten the time period or reduce the mg
-80mg var is too much, youd be gtg with 50-60, save some $$$

youre running a bunch of compounds, save the GH for PCT?

[vegan_hunter]

If I could afford to run GH at a low dose all the time, I would. I used GH for 6 months straight last year while getting ready for a bodybuilding show, and I felt fukken awsome on it..... besides needing to get my back shaved every week, and hair cuts every 10 days! That was all on 4-5 iu's per day.

Its not really gonna be a magic pill though.... don't expect to get any huge gains very fast. It just makes everything easier.... getting lean was a breeze on that dose (but i've got skinny kit genetics). Also made me sleep like a baby. The only complaint I had was that my fingers felt like fat sausages for about a month when i began.

However now that i'm pretty sure i'll never do another bodybuilding competition, I don't think i'd use GH regularly until Im older..... 35 yrs +.

[ironwill]

If I could afford to run GH at a low dose all the time, I would. I used GH for 6 months straight last year while getting ready for a bodybuilding show, and I felt fukken awsome on it..... besides needing to get my back shaved every week, and hair cuts every 10 days! That was all on 4-5 iu's per day.

Its not really gonna be a magic pill though.... don't expect to get any huge gains very fast. It just makes everything easier.... getting lean was a breeze on that dose (but i've got skinny kit genetics). Also made me sleep like a baby. The only complaint I had was that my fingers felt like fat sausages for about a month when i began.

However now that i'm pretty sure i'll never do another bodybuilding competition, I don't think i'd use GH regularly until Im older..... 35 yrs +.
me to, i used for 7 months 2 yr ago and it was amazing....It changed my body and made me nice and full and all around better...I am over 35 and i truly found it awesome...I couldnt even write 3 sentences and my hands were pumped and my wrists, i had to take breaks...lol..
Definitely good stuff

[tex]

I think 80mg is a good starting dose for the var for his size......Im 230 and 60-80 is when I actually started feeling it......not sure why he wants var in with tren......thats like pulling out your knife when you got a bazooka in the other hand.....to each his own

[macka]

I think 80mg is a good starting dose for the var for his size......Im 230 and 60-80 is when I actually started feeling it......not sure why he wants var in with tren......thats like pulling out your knife when you got a bazooka in the other hand.....to each his own

exactly never bring a knife to an artillery duel. On another note, on your last cycle, why not deep six the extras and run test prop 200 mg eod and trenA? KISS

[Mister T 72]

-dont mix the npp and tren, finish one before starting the other
-dbol @ 60 for 5-6 weeks is too high/long, either shorten the time period or reduce the mg
-80mg var is too much, youd be gtg with 50-60, save some $$$

youre running a bunch of compounds, save the GH for PCT?


- no plans to run the npp and tren together...npp first 10 weeks of cycle...tren a final 10 weeks of cycle

- detailed plans on the d-bol = 40 mg ED...60 mg on weight training days with 20 mg taken 45 mins prior to weight training

- felt 80 mg var Ed was a good dose....most reports i have read seem to feel that 60 - 80 mg ED is the "Sweet " spot for var

- no pct... will be going back to a cruising dose of 200 - 250 mg T.Cyp EW @ the end of the 20 weeks

- have read a number of users had EXCELLENT results with the combo of Tren and Var..which helped in my decision is combining the 2....bad decision?

[Praetorian]

As a 37 year old that has plans to NEVER compete and simply lifts for the enjoyment and uses AAS to further my physique,is it worth it for me to add in GH @ say 2iu ED using a 5 on / 2 off protocol??

6 ft
245 ish pds
currently cruising with Test cyp @ 250 mg / week

Next cycle will be my biggest and longest @ a planned 20 weeks
The first 10 weeks of products hasn't been decided yet....but i'm leaning towards Test Prop @ 200 mg EOD / NPP @ 200 mg EOD / 5 or 6 weeks of D-Bol @ 60 mg ED...the final 10 weeks is looking like Test Prop @ 200mg EOD / Tren A @ 150mg EOD / Anavar @ 80 mg ED and a dose of T-3..50mcg ED ?

Personally the GH seems a bit expensive for my tastes and personal goals....but I would appreciate personal experience and feedback

You need to decide what your goals are...ie gaining or eaning out. GH at 2iu is a waste of time and money for a male...you will not put on any additional mass on with that. To be quite honest I would run the test cyp at 1000mg weekly with the dbol starting week 5 for 5-6 weeks 50-60mg ED is fine. I prefer regular nandrolone over NPP as you get much more joint protection so I would run 400-600mg deca per week in conjunction with the test. This is an ideal mass cycle for 12-16 weeks. Anavar is a weak drug for men and is quite expensive mg/mg...as well it is still 17aa so 10 weeks will put a strain on the liver...i would avoid that. If you wanted to lean out I would suggest either of two things. 1. finish the cycle and gain as much lean mass as possible then run 4-6 weeks PCT and then run a short 6-8 week cutting diet (keto) with the prop and tren. At that point you could add the T3+clen+gh (2iu) which will help you burn as much fat as possible. 2. At the 12 week point in the cycle swith to prop and tren and start a cutting diet again with the T3+clen+gh. I would prefer option 1 as you will allow your body to become accustomed to the new weight and you will retain much more this way.
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[JonnyO]

I know some guys yours age who have done cycles very similar to the one you've laid out and loved it. I wouldnt change a thing and the dosages look good too. One thing I would do is add Creatine with the Anavar.

As for GH it's probably not needed, and I disagree about 2iu not being enough. If you can afford it going a bit higher would be better obviously but I find if you have good GH you will get something out of 2iu, help keep lean, fuller muscle, clear skin ,etc. But be prepared to take it for the long haul, not just a few months.

[Solo59]

I know some guys yours age who have done cycles very similar to the one you've laid out and loved it. I wouldnt change a thing and the dosages look good too. One thing I would do is add Creatine with the Anavar.

As for GH it's probably not needed, and I disagree about 2iu not being enough. If you can afford it going a bit higher would be better obviously but I find if you have good GH you will get something out of 2iu, help keep lean, fuller muscle, clear skin ,etc. But be prepared to take it for the long haul, not just a few months.

Creatine? Yeah, that should do wonders.:rolleyes:

Solo

[JonnyO]

Creatine? Yeah, that should do wonders.:rolleyes:

Solo

There is a thing called synergy, var increases phosphocreatine, which in turn creates/replenishes ATP.

[Proteinkiller]

There is a thing called synergy, var increases phosphocreatine, which in turn creates/replenishes ATP.

ive also read that on many boards(using var and creatine together)... next time i run var im def gonna use creatine with it... extra energy isay why not?

[ironwill]

Adding creatine to var is like adding gasoline to fire....It works real well together....Without a doubt..

[Praetorian]

I know some guys yours age who have done cycles very similar to the one you've laid out and loved it. I wouldnt change a thing and the dosages look good too. One thing I would do is add Creatine with the Anavar.

As for GH it's probably not needed, and I disagree about 2iu not being enough. If you can afford it going a bit higher would be better obviously but I find if you have good GH you will get something out of 2iu, help keep lean, fuller muscle, clear skin ,etc. But be prepared to take it for the long haul, not just a few months.

If you are running gh to be lean then run it on a diet not offseason. off season gh usage is very expensive if you are looking for muscle growth...8-10 iu minimum. A few iu's per day off season is not a very feasible way to try to stay lean. There are much better alternatives then gh if all you want is that. Building muscle takes time and doesnt happen ina few weeks...thus if cost is an issue and for most it is...especially if you are non competitive then gh is not the answer.
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[Praetorian]

Adding creatine to var is like adding gasoline to fire....It works real well together....Without a doubt..

Creatine should be part of any offseason cycle....with or without var...make sure its monohydrate not CEE.
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[JonnyO]

If you are running gh to be lean then run it on a diet not offseason. off season gh usage is very expensive if you are looking for muscle growth...8-10 iu minimum. A few iu's per day off season is not a very feasible way to try to stay lean. There are much better alternatives then gh if all you want is that. Building muscle takes time and doesnt happen ina few weeks...thus if cost is an issue and for most it is...especially if you are non competitive then gh is not the answer.
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Couldnt agree with you more. I'd only suggest it for cutting/pre-cont. I've been trying high dose E3D or so for 2 weeks with Slin and so far so good.

[Mister T 72]

one thing i have decided....GH is out for me ! lol

[macka]

one thing i have decided....GH is out for me ! lol

price?

[Mister T 72]

price?

the cost of running it at an effective dose and for a long enough period = too pricey