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Dk
03-02-2009, 10:01 PM
I know i know, i have a habit of making a new thread everytime i get a new idea, its probably annoying. Hopefully this is the last one, i would keep it all to the same thread but i have no idea where my other 2nd cycle thread went.

oh well, ill cut to it, what do ya think, im 99 percent sure im going with this one, and if i dont, dont worry, all changes will be in THIS thread haha.

doin a little brain storming here.

1.25cc Profina EOD (125mg prop eod, 87.5mg ace eod) /Weeks 1-4
0.75cc T400 x2 wk (600mg Enth a week, 300 mon/300 thurs) /Weeks 1-12
0.8cc Tren Ace EOD (80mg ace eod ) /weeks 4-7 or 8 depending on supply.

Basically my logic behind this is i was havin a hell of a time figuring out a dose with the profina where ill still get in roughly 80mg Ace without going overkill on the test and still being able to run my 600mg of Enth a week to keep my enanthate stable and the same the whole time.

So doing this dosing, I will:
-Get my 80ish mg of ace EOD for the 6-8 weeks like i planned, and have minimal leftovers
-Have a good amount of prop to kickstart the first 4 weeks, and be able to start the tren from day 1, and just be coming off the prop in time for the enth to take over.
-Then at week 4 when i wanna stop the prop, ill just replace the profina with straight tren ace, since ill have the enanthate ester all jacked up and good to take over by then

By the way, all those doses and timing are on que so that vial will be basically gone when its time is up as stated above(another thing i had to try and figure out, cuz half full vials annoy me)


Hcg also by the way.

250iu x2 a week? could do 500, but im tryin to keep this cheap as possible haha. Because along with everything up top ill still need to buy Adex,nolva and clomid

Dk
04-02-2009, 12:35 AM
cmoooooon:troll

purelife
04-02-2009, 12:57 AM
looks good bro i would of start the tren a at 50mg eod and work your way up
if you can handle the sides

good luck with the tren a

Peter

nisser
04-02-2009, 01:21 AM
Any reason why you can't just do test prop all throughout?

Dk
04-02-2009, 01:28 AM
Any reason why you can't just do test prop all throughout?

no not really.

I just liked the T400 way more then the prop.

***** prop hurts a little sometimes, depending on the shot, well for me anyway, in the profina form though i have no idea how itll feel, ill find out

well and mostly cuz i dont want EOD injections for 3 months

tex
04-02-2009, 04:16 PM
man up....i just did 3 months of ED shots.....sometimes 2 a day......it gets a bit annoying tho..... :)

Dk
04-02-2009, 08:50 PM
man up....i just did 3 months of ED shots.....sometimes 2 a day......it gets a bit annoying tho..... :)

hmm, ill consider it.

so basically itll just change to

1-8 profina
8-12 prop

a little less complicated but still pretty much the exact same thing just with a little less test and more needles

Big D
04-02-2009, 08:56 PM
hmm, ill consider it.

so basically itll just change to

1-8 profina
8-12 prop

a little less complicated but still pretty much the exact same thing just with a little less test and more needles

I like that alot better, you ever consider doing the profina for the full 12 ? if the sides a not so bad

Dk
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
I like that alot better, you ever consider doing the profina for the full 12 ? if the sides a not so bad

I could.

but 12 weeks on tren as a first time user? sounds a little bit aheavy hah, even if the sides are minimal, thats gonna be one helllll of a shutdown

and the fact i like to buy all my stuff and have it all ready to go before i start anything

Big D
04-02-2009, 09:04 PM
I think either way man, you have a pretty solid cycle. your gonna love it, after 8 weeks of tren you probably wont want to stop.

natenator
04-02-2009, 09:04 PM
I could.

but 12 weeks on tren as a first time user? sounds a little bit aheavy hah, even if the sides are minimal, thats gonna be one helllll of a shutdown

and the fact i like to buy all my stuff and have it all ready to go before i start anything
meh. I ran tren for 16 weeks as part of my first cycle ever.

started at 250/week and ramped up to 500/week by week 8 and cruised til I was done.

tren is the gift of the gods. I was also getting blood work done every 6 weeks to ensure I was a-ok. And yes I know tren usage can **** you well after usage has been discontinued...

Dk
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
I think either way man, you have a pretty solid cycle. your gonna love it, after 8 weeks of tren you probably wont want to stop.

The only thing im really worried about is the acne.

i started breaking out bad on my back and chest around weeks 11-12 on T400, scared to see what the same dose of t400 AND the tren are gonna do

So just incase id kinda like to be off the tren near the end of my cycle, which is where i started noticing sides last time. Had no problem with any acne or any sides for the first 10 weeks on deca and t400. Then just at the verrry end i started gettin blackheads all over my body

Dk
09-02-2009, 09:15 PM
decided to keep it a bit more simple and just go.

1-12 t400 600mg/wk
3-9 Tren Ace 80-100mg/EOD

HCG and pct also of course

giannos
09-02-2009, 09:48 PM
tren is the gift of the gods.

No doubt about that....but also has the sword of Satan. Emotional sides can be hard to control if your not careful. So be warned. MWAahahahaha LOL


OP, I know your trying to keep your cycle short but don't skimp on the HCG on Tren. Shutdown is a bitch

Dk
09-02-2009, 09:54 PM
No doubt about that....but also has the sword of Satan. Emotional sides can be hard to control if your not careful. So be warned. MWAahahahaha LOL


OP, I know your trying to keep your cycle short but don't skimp on the HCG on Tren. Shutdown is a bitch

its finalized.

just sent the email away.

im gonna be doing

300mg Monday/Thurs, (600mg total weekly), T400 ,1-12
100mg EOD, (350 total average weekly) Tren A ,3-10
HCG 250iu Monday/Thurs (500iu Total weekly) 4-13
(the hcg comes in 5000iu, so if i start right when i need it, throughout tren a usage, i can get away with just using one kit instead of buyin a whole nother 5000iu just for a couple weeks of test shutdown, which is no biggy)

Pct, just hammer the nolva, and ill run Adex throughout cycle

Kronis
09-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Not to be a dick, but didn't you just finish a cycle?

It may be just because I see your name on created threads a lot but it seems like you're always just finishing a cycle or starting a new one.

Also, tren @ 18?

Dk
09-02-2009, 10:07 PM
Not to be a dick, but didn't you just finish a cycle?

It may be just because I see your name on created threads a lot but it seems like you're always just finishing a cycle or starting a new one.

Also, tren @ 18?

already 4 weeks into pct.

and im not starting this one till march, getting blood tests next week to seehow recovery is going, i just plan ahead, i love mapping different options out hah.

as for the tren thing. believe me i know, i told myself before i ever started that i wasnt touching tren for a long time.

i cant help it though bro, i hear so much about it, i have to try it, i know, bad self control haha, its a problem, but everyone talks it up so much ive been itching to see what its like

Ill make sure to hit the hcg, and then come off for a while after this one.

im only stayin on the tren 6-8 weeks max.

Born2Juice4Ever
09-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Kronis did you say he is 18 years old WTF

the way he is talking like he has done so many cycles, and as though he has preferance to this or that compound....are you kidding me!!

18 year old has NO business touching gear. I am certain whoever is providing you with gear would not sell him any...there is a lot of stuff you need to learn, before you come onto the world of anabolics.



my .37 cents plus G.S.T.

B2J

You have made some tremendous gains so far...take it easy, you have your entire life to play with other stuff...dedicate yourself to the slow process.

Dk
09-02-2009, 10:20 PM
Kronis did you say he is 18 years old WTF

the way he is talking like he has done so many cycles, and as though he has preferance to this or that compound....are you kidding me!!

18 year old has NO business touching gear. I am certain whoever is providing you with gear would not sell him any...there is a lot of stuff you need to learn, before you come onto the world of anabolics.



my .37 cents plus G.S.T.

B2J

True, but hey now, you cant base what i know on how old i am, thats just ignorant.

And the reason i talk alot about cycles and all that isnt because im stating my preference, its to try and learn more. I've only done 1 cycle and then a short one.

If there isnt one more person on this board who started at 18, or hell, even younger, i can confidently say i was wrong.

And hell, part of me does think it was wrong to start at 18, but it was a choice i made, and i dont regret it.

Like i've said, im getting bloodwork/recovering back to normal levels/doing my research.

If you were to dis-regard my age in the equation, would there be any problem at all with what i've been saying.

Its not like im the average teenager who decided to start doing gear but doesnt wanna inject so im running dbol at 80mg a day for 9 weeks, and pcting with Novadex XT haha

BIGDADDY69
09-02-2009, 10:20 PM
hey bro, if you wanna save on your HCG Pros run 500mcgs every 10 days...
gear is important, but diet while on gear will make you or break you

gustavo77
09-02-2009, 10:27 PM
I could.

but 12 weeks on tren as a first time user? sounds a little bit aheavy hah, even if the sides are minimal, thats gonna be one helllll of a shutdown


That's what HCG is for. Use it during your whole cycle and your testes will not shut down.

Kronis
09-02-2009, 11:57 PM
already 4 weeks into pct.

and im not starting this one till march, getting blood tests next week to seehow recovery is going, i just plan ahead, i love mapping different options out hah.

as for the tren thing. believe me i know, i told myself before i ever started that i wasnt touching tren for a long time.

i cant help it though bro, i hear so much about it, i have to try it, i know, bad self control haha, its a problem, but everyone talks it up so much ive been itching to see what its like

Ill make sure to hit the hcg, and then come off for a while after this one.

im only stayin on the tren 6-8 weeks max.

It's all good dude. I'm not here to parent anyone, was just kinda concerned about where you plan on going next. HGH & Cheque drops for #3? :rofl

Let us know how it goes.

javin86
10-02-2009, 12:37 AM
That's what HCG is for. Use it during your whole cycle and your testes will not shut down.

I read that 19nor compounds have a tendency to re-esterify(sp?) even after discontinuation, and that this is a big reason for the brutal shutdown and long detection times of tren and nandrolone, even with short esters.

bmorlock
10-02-2009, 12:46 AM
was it SA test 400 you used in your first cycle ?

Dk
10-02-2009, 12:47 AM
It's all good dude. I'm not here to parent anyone, was just kinda concerned about where you plan on going next. HGH & Cheque drops for #3? :rofl

Let us know how it goes.

After this one i think ill just settle down and ride the HRT train.

Haha but really, im not sure, Dont really have any interest in gettin more complex, i just really wanna try tren, after this, assuming i like tren, ill just stick to test and tren, maybe drop the tren and run a long one with EQ, not sure. Ill cross that bridge when i come to it.

No orals for me though.

Dk
10-02-2009, 12:49 AM
was it SA test 400 you used in your first cycle ?

You bet

switched to All ***** gear after 9 weeks of nothing

bmorlock
10-02-2009, 01:02 AM
how long did u run the ***** gear for after u stopped the SA

Dk
10-02-2009, 01:08 AM
how long did u run the ***** gear for after u stopped the SA

Haha.

I see what your tryin to do here.

12 weeks after a short break