Next Cycle Let me know what you think

[Proteinkiller]

my next cycle ...just wanting some input mostly on what i should tweak if anything or if i should add in anything for bloat or for gyno

1-15 900mg test e
1-4 dbol 40mg
1-5 prop 400mg
5-10 tren ace 300mg
12-17 prop 400mg
12-17 oral-t 60mg

i have nolva, letro on hand

stats 5'5 185, pretty low bf..wont start the cycle till i get back up to 190
highest ive been was 195. diet is in check so dont worry.
Let me know.

[nisser]

a more complicated cycle won't give you better results. I don't know how to fix your prop issue because I don't know your original thinking behind it but you really should fix it; it makes zero sense.

[Proteinkiller]

prop to kickstart.... usualy i start pct 2 weeks after my last test e injection... sooo i figured props outta system within days.. why not finish with it make a quicker transition into pct? i dont mind eod pokes and i got some bottles of it so i figured i would put it in there.

[Diesel_250]

my next cycle ...just wanting some input mostly on what i should tweak if anything or if i should add in anything for bloat or for gyno

1-15 900mg test e
1-4 dbol 40mg
1-5 prop 400mg
5-10 tren ace 300mg
12-17 prop 400mg
12-17 oral-t 60mg

i have nolva, letro on hand

stats 5'5 185, pretty low bf..wont start the cycle till i get back up to 190
highest ive been was 195. diet is in check so dont worry.
Let me know.

how many cycles have you done in the past? what is your end goal?

I personally would run something like this

1-16 test e 500mg
1-15 EQ 450-500mg


If you really want to kick start your cycle I would say Tbol for the first 4 weeks as it won't bloat you. I have had estro related sides in the past so I run adex 1mg EOD for the duration of the cycle.

I have never done it myself but after talking to a few guys I am gonna run HCG during my cycle at 500iu twice a week.

I love test and EQ it is a great combo

good luck

[Proteinkiller]

i hate eq thats why its not in there man haha

[Diesel_250]

again, what is your cycle history and what are your goals for this cycle?

[Proteinkiller]

goal is to be over 205 with abs

this will be 4th cycle

[Diesel_250]

how do you feel about deca?

[Proteinkiller]

i would run deca but i want to run tren and i dont want to run tren/deca together

[javin86]

how do you feel about deca?

i'd say if your gonna take the risk of using a 19nor (shutdown, libido issues etc.) might as well use tren. I've yet to use either, but i've seen too many people recover poorly from deca, and the gains just don't seem to be worth it.

As for the cycle op, looks too complicated. Will you be running hcg throughout?

[Diesel_250]

yeah that would do a number on your libido.

1-15 test e 500-750mgs
1-5 prop 400mg
5-10 tren a 300mg

do you have caber on hand for the progesterone? I would leave out the dbol as it will be all water weight.

[Diesel_250]

I agree with running the hcg throughout. like I said I personally haven't tried this method yet but I will be for my next cycle.

[javin86]

yeah that would do a number on your libido.

1-15 test e 500-750mgs
1-5 prop 400mg
5-10 tren a 300mg

do you have caber on hand for the progesterone? I would leave out the dbol as it will be all water weight.

+ tbol weeks 11-17 = awesome

[tex]

cycle looks good.....i love using prop to start/end a cycle......i find that when i start the prop at the end, it gives me another little growth spurt..........

[Diesel_250]

+ tbol weeks 11-17 = awesome

My question about the tbol weeks 11-17 is, won't that mess you up for PCT? I always thought that you should end with your test and drop everything else about a week before the end of the test. correct me if I am wrong, I am just not a huge fan of orals.

[St]

My question about the tbol weeks 11-17 is, won't that mess you up for PCT? I always thought that you should end with your test and drop everything else about a week before the end of the test. correct me if I am wrong, I am just not a huge fan of orals.

You can recover very well from pct with t-bol.

[Diesel_250]

thanks Tony, like I said I wasn't sure

[Proteinkiller]

cycle looks good.....i love using prop to start/end a cycle......i find that when i start the prop at the end, it gives me another little growth spurt..........

exactly.. if anything ill just drop the prop at the beggining...but i figured why not i love a good kickstart

[JonnyO]

The cycle doesnt really make sense to me. You said Prop weeks 1-5 for a kick start then why you have Dbol in there too? Then Prop again weeks 12-17, is this another kick start? Kick starting a cycle doesnt make sense to me because it takes time to build muscle why not wait for the test to kick in then add the Dbol and they will work in synergy.

I assume you have all of the above compounds already and IS what your going to use no matter what so...the test looks fine, 900mg maybe a bit high for you but whatever, run that for 8 weeks with Dbol weeks 2-8. Then weeks 8-15 run Prop/Tren/Tbol.