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tiramisu
28-01-2009, 01:34 AM
40 mg dbol ed 20 am / 20 pm.
100 mg tren eod
300 mg test eod

About 12 days in and started noticing a bit of an ache at day 10.
Drinking immense amounts of watrer reduces the ache but not enough to make it disappear entirely.

Looks like some combination of the three is a bit too much for my system.

Ran dbol at the back end of my last cycle with test and strength was very good but I had to watch the bloating carefully.

I'm going to drop the dbol as it's just a front load and see if all is good.

Anyone have similar sides?

juice555
28-01-2009, 01:42 AM
40 mg dbol ed 20 am / 20 pm.
100 mg tren eod
300 mg test eod

About 12 days in and started noticing a bit of an ache at day 10.
Drinking immense amounts of watrer reduces the ache but not enough to make it disappear entirely.

Looks like some combination of the three is a bit too much for my system.

Ran dbol at the back end of my last cycle with test and strength was very good but I had to watch the bloating carefully.

I'm going to drop the dbol as it's just a front load and see if all is good.

Anyone have similar sides?


Could be the notorious dbol back pumps?
Some doctors have told me kidneys dont ache. I dont believe that as I've been feeling some dull ache lately too. First time I tried Tren I had more sharp pains in what I thought was my kidney. Now I have concerning bloodwork regarding my kidneys. Be careful. Get some bloodwork done and make sure you arent damaging yourself.

varking
28-01-2009, 01:46 AM
Get some blood work done just to be safe dont want to damage it..

tiramisu
28-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Doesn't seem like lower back muscle cramping it's higher up and to the right in this case.
I'm doing digging around for references. Given the short period of inflammation I'd be shocked if I've done any damage. Just concerned at the moment.

tiramisu
28-01-2009, 01:56 AM
Well a quick anatomy lesson tells me the ache is lower than my kidney....

giannos
28-01-2009, 01:58 AM
Like others have stated. Get your blood work done. They will probably just start with a basic creatinine test. It's Canada bro, we don't pay for this stuff and I would never chalk up kidney pain to a "side". It should be taken seriously.

Its probably the Dbol as I heard other complain of the same issue, but do yourself a favor and get some tests.

kloan
28-01-2009, 01:59 AM
Could it be gas? I know I've gotten aches in the same area before.. and it's always ended up being gas.

hyperlite32
28-01-2009, 02:07 AM
could be alot of things. But, if you are getting alarm bells in your head. You should go get checked. No amount of gear or muscle is worth risking the only body you get.

kloan
28-01-2009, 02:14 AM
^^ agreed... better safe that sorry....

but try to go take a shit.. might help :P

waderow
28-01-2009, 07:50 AM
i got some bad acne once from a dbol blast mid cycle.... i think it has to do with unstable levels and short half lives. try dividing you dose out and take every 4 hours.

St
28-01-2009, 08:32 AM
Could it be gas? I know I've gotten aches in the same area before.. and it's always ended up being gas.


Same here,are you having a high fiber diet?
But a blood test can't hurt just the needle to draw out the blood haha.

bottleneckblooz
28-01-2009, 08:56 AM
If it is Kidney pain I would say it is likely the Tren that is the culprit. Every time someone complains of a dull kidney pain it seems that they are always on tren. It's funny how we always tend to focus on how toxic compounds are to our livers, when I can't think of a single bb'r off the top of my head who has had health problems because of a failing liver. Yet I can name 4 bb'rs just off the top of my head that have had Kidney problems, Flex, Tom Prince, Don Long, Shawn Davis..etc.

Notice these are not golden era bodybuilders, not even 80's bb's. These bb's have been competing in the last 10-15 years. My understanding Tren is used much more today than it was 15-20 years ago. Not even sure if it was available back then, at least not in todays availability.

To me it just seems like there is a corrolation between the increase in kidney problems of the pros and the increased popularity of tren. But that's just my opinion.

JonnyO
28-01-2009, 10:27 AM
They say Tren Acetate does not have a direct impact on the kidneys unlike its Hex ester and the stress on the kidneys may be a result of hyperkalaemia.

Mr Ontario
28-01-2009, 12:45 PM
Kidney pain = Kidney stones forming :)

waderow
28-01-2009, 01:07 PM
I was drinking pure organic cranberry juice, and my kidneys always felt good afterwards. I would also snack on dried organic cranberries.
Try that. Also...drink at least a gallon of water a day

Mr Ontario
28-01-2009, 01:17 PM
A gallon a day Wow...you must be rich..time to buy a new stove :)


I was drinking pure organic cranberry juice, and my kidneys always felt good afterwards. I would also snack on dried organic cranberries.
Try that. Also...drink at least a gallon of water a day

waderow
28-01-2009, 01:26 PM
A gallon a day Wow...you must be rich..time to buy a new stove :)

I have fat stacks bro. Maybe I will go stove shopping so my water can be drank in style