View Full Version : AndRIOL as Test Booster???
ultrasafe
24-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Ok ...well I have gone through countless threads and its actually been a great learning experience. I have a few cycles in mind but before I post them so they can be critiqed by the professors..lolol.. I want to explore the drug ANDRIOL.
Soooo as we all know, ANDRIOL not anadrol is a very safe oral, being absorbed through the lymphatic system which bypasses that first harsh pass through the liver. On paper it seems like a great drug but in reality it is very inconsistent. Various scientific journals have discussed the inconsistent supply of Test from the drug. Some studies had very good numbers and others were poor.
As for building muscle compared to all the other Injectable Tests....well hands down there is no comparison, andriol is crap in this department.
Andriol is not very good at providing decent Test to build good gains...However, I have read in many threads on other boards that this drug is good in increasing your libido and is prescribed from doctors just for that reason alone.
At 240mg per day, could it be a good substitute in taking care of libido issues while taking mild to moderate steriod cycles or to help with minimizing the volume of IM injectables?
For example take this cycle..
Primo 400mg every 5 days for 10 weeks
Anavar 30mg per day 10 weeks
PCT Novaldex
Since all AAS have an impact on the HPTA Axis (ofcourse all varied depending on the drug) would ANDRIOL be a good test booster here to ensure hard ass libido function regarless if it puts muscle on or not??
Yes I know proviron could work here but that would be too much DHT.
And Vets I know I know all IM inj Tests are far superior in this department, but just trying pick your brains.......
andriol = test undecanoate............i wouldnt bother with it unles it was for a hrt guy with a severe needle phobia...then id say suck it up and pin some enth anyways......just my .02......im not sure on the cost of andriol but 240mg a day sounds expensive.......esp since you'll be most likely using hg......
I've tried Andriol. It's a total waste of time. I got them for free cuz I wouldn't have paid for this. I took from 4 to 16 caps a day for 2 months... didn't do much
deleteduser0001
24-01-2009, 02:00 PM
yeah. I tried some years ago, waste of time, of that 240mg or so you are putting in, you get 30mg or so into your bloodstream because of the delivery system. not worth it.
Drummer
24-01-2009, 02:24 PM
andriol is given by doctors used as an oral that doesnt work very well. Need lots of it to produce any real effects. long ester test oral, there are better options, like IM.
~DB~
Solo59
24-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Sooooo... AndroGel® is better than Andriol for between cycles TRT?
Solo
Mr Ontario
24-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Yes! The gel is better.
Sooooo... AndroGel® is better than Andriol for between cycles TRT?
Solo
RagingRandy
24-01-2009, 11:46 PM
For oral test to be absorbed properly it must be taken with a tablespoon of oil, olive was recommended. This advice comes from my HRT doc. He says it gets a bad rap because it is not taken properly.
ultrasafe
25-01-2009, 12:12 AM
For oral test to be absorbed properly it must be taken with a tablespoon of oil, olive was recommended. This advice comes from my HRT doc. He says it gets a bad rap because it is not taken properly.
Sorry Randy.............so with every ingestion of andriol, he need to include a tablespoon of olive oil........ohh man the scene from Stand by Me comes to mind when the fat kid "Lard Ass" downs the bottle of oil before the pie eating contest..lololol
RagingRandy
25-01-2009, 01:17 PM
Sorry Randy.............so with every ingestion of andriol, he need to include a tablespoon of olive oil........ohh man the scene from Stand by Me comes to mind when the fat kid "Lard Ass" downs the bottle of oil before the pie eating contest..lololol
Yes, in practice. However because the Andriol is supposed to be taken after a meal the oil can be included in a salad or whatever you are cooking.
spiderman7
25-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Andriol works with some if taken properly but only for trt If it works at all. Basically its a pain in the ass to take it 3 to 4 tines a day just to get you in range(libido). Your better off with a gel or cream. Although if your looking for something to take just when needed, Andriol may work as an aid along w cia/viagra for an extra kick.
lv 426
25-01-2009, 04:53 PM
I was on it for a year. TRT prescibed it for me. Started at 4 caps (160mg)
once a day with 20ml of olive oil. Had blood work done every 2-3 months.
Worked up to 8 caps(320mg) over the year. Didn't move my T-levels.
Doc said once-a-day was all that was needed. Said that constant blood levels would be reached.
After a year, and poor results he says some people just don't absorb it.
Needless to say he is no longer my Doc.
BTW each cap costs around a buck...buyer beware
Cheers
Paul
spiderman7
25-01-2009, 07:50 PM
I was on it for a year. TRT prescibed it for me. Started at 4 caps (160mg)
once a day with 20ml of olive oil. Had blood work done every 2-3 months.
Worked up to 8 caps(320mg) over the year. Didn't move my T-levels.
Doc said once-a-day was all that was needed. Said that constant blood levels would be reached.
After a year, and poor results he says some people just don't absorb it.
Needless to say he is no longer my Doc.
BTW each cap costs around a buck...buyer beware
Cheers
Paul
Half life is about 4-5 hrs before it wears off so It is suppose to be taken 3 or not 4 times daily to maintain levels.
ultrasafe
25-01-2009, 07:52 PM
Andriol works with some if taken properly but only for trt If it works at all. Basically its a pain in the ass to take it 3 to 4 tines a day just to get you in range(libido). Your better off with a gel or cream. Although if your looking for something to take just when needed, Andriol may work as an aid along w cia/viagra for an extra kick.
Ya spider, that is what i was thinking for mild to moderate cycles. For example anavar and primo, these AAS shut you down slightly and some have said their performance was not effected at all.
I do know its a pain in the ass and the reason I initiated this thread, is that I inherited some major boxes of this Test...lolol.
So free is good, and just trying to see where this can be used. Not a very realiable drug though.
spiderman7
26-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Ya spider, that is what i was thinking for mild to moderate cycles. For example anavar and primo, these AAS shut you down slightly and some have said their performance was not effected at all.
I do know its a pain in the ass and the reason I initiated this thread, is that I inherited some major boxes of this Test...lolol.
So free is good, and just trying to see where this can be used. Not a very realiable drug though.
Think there is some benefit to this drug but not when it comes to Body Builders.
I have read that this drug is popular with endurance athletes who are tested. They basically use Andriol for recovery reasons after a big race. So they are ready for the next day race.
Old-Dog
26-01-2009, 10:20 AM
I found that gel pill to be a complete waste of my dollar.
Even, at 6-8 pills per day I felt a very small effect of it's abilities.
However, a few packs of the gel applied to my stomach per day while on GH really was quite effective and brought me up to speed with the good test vibe.
I found when I stopped there was a short shut down period.
ultrasafe
26-01-2009, 10:29 AM
I found that gel pill to be a complete waste of my dollar.
Even, at 6-8 pills per day I felt a very small effect of it's abilities.
However, a few packs of the gel applied to my stomach per day while on GH really was quite effective and brought me up to speed with the good test vibe.
I found when I stopped there was a short shut down period.
Old-dog a short shut period with the gel or with the gel pill (andriol)??
lv 426
26-01-2009, 05:37 PM
Half life is about 4-5 hrs before it wears off so It is suppose to be taken 3 or not 4 times daily to maintain levels.
I can only tell you what the doc told me..once a day was all that was needed. He said he had the blood work to prove it and that he had presented his findings to who ever you present findind to.
The point I wanted to make was that some people absorb it and some don't....It seems to costly to find out which one you are.
Cheers
Paul
Crankin'steiN
26-01-2009, 07:18 PM
Andriol is pretty much useless for bodybuilding purposes IMO.... You are much better off injecting test and getting good raises in your test levels without so much being destroyed and wasted...
spiderman7
26-01-2009, 08:12 PM
I can only tell you what the doc told me..once a day was all that was needed. He said he had the blood work to prove it and that he had presented his findings to who ever you present findind to.
The point I wanted to make was that some people absorb it and some don't....It seems to costly to find out which one you are.
Cheers
Paul
Maybe he's right but the company that makes Andriol suggest that it be taken twice a day.I was also offered this by my Doc but he claimed that it needed to be taken 3-4x daily because of half life.
http://www.andropause.com/about_andriol/andriol_testocaps.pdf
Everyone may have a different opinion on this, some like Dr. John Crisler say its useless others think it may work. I believe its up to the individual.
Old-Dog
26-01-2009, 11:07 PM
I had a shut down after the gel.
It was a real pick me up. I felt it after I would use three packets.
But after 8 weeks I stopped. I surely felt the lack of hardness, attitude and libido drop.
But nothing like after 750mg of cyp per week.
It was mostly mental.
spiderman7
26-01-2009, 11:10 PM
I had a shut down after the gel.
It was a real pick me up. I felt it after I would use three packets.
But after 8 weeks I stopped. I surely felt the lack of hardness, attitude and libido drop.
But nothing like after 750mg of cyp per week.
It was mostly mental.
Hey Old-Dog, what form of gel were u on? Testim or Androgel?
quebecbulk
27-01-2009, 12:05 PM
My buddy's mom was prescribed andriol at a dose of 160mg/day.
Turned out to be a complete waste of money..
Old-Dog
27-01-2009, 12:10 PM
Your buddies mom? Interesting, how come?
Andro-gel. I could have gotten the pump but knowing me I would have used it as body lotion so, the packets were fine.
I found if I used three packs before I went out, exp; Beach, Bar or a Date, those 3 packs would be like a Health Tonic, just wake me up and I was ready to roll.
However, I have ADD and this could have been nothing more than mind over matter but physically I did see results(I was on GH as well though).
quebecbulk
27-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Your buddies mom? Interesting, how come?
Andro-gel. I could have gotten the pump but knowing me I would have used it as body lotion so, the packets were fine.
I found if I used three packs before I went out, exp; Beach, Bar or a Date, those 3 packs would be like a Health Tonic, just wake me up and I was ready to roll.
However, I have ADD and this could have been nothing more than mind over matter but physically I did see results(I was on GH as well though).
Something to do with her immune system if you can beleive it..lol
MD's in small town's come up with the weirdest idea's..
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