Testothate 400 Issues!!

[drdnj]

I am soooooo pissed off right now with SA crap. Testothate 400 has pretty much screwed my workouts since I started my bulk cycle 3 weeks ago.
I am sorry Bros, but I gave it an honest effort, got a complete array of gear to bulk and get ready for my upcoming competitive season, spent a ton of cash and now hate the shit.
I am a f#@king cripple, my legs are so swollen I look like I have elephantitis.

Sorry to rant but, I needed to get this out while I iced my legs.

D

[St]

That is why i like just 250mg strenght esters no pain.

[Random Letters]

That is why i like just 250mg strenght esters no pain.

Can't just blame it on the concentration, as I'm running another labs T500 right now and it is pretty close to painless...you know you shot it the following day or two, but nothing that hinders workouts.

Then again, what I have is in EO, and I heard that SA is back to oils. For those of us that don't have a reaction to EO, the shit is a godsend.

[Diesel_250]

That is why i like just 250mg strenght esters no pain.


I agree. you could try cutting it with some EQ or sterile oil. massage lots after injection, take some advil and ice.

good luck

[gustavo77]

Some people just cannot tolerate higher concentrations... case in point, i could not even handle 0.5ml of SA prop 200. It had me swollen and red. Absolutely painful...I gave it to a bro of mine, he did up to 1.5ml in the delt with no pain or bad reaction at all... all depends on the person..

[St]

I agree. you could try cutting it with some EQ or sterile oil. massage lots after injection, take some advil and ice.

good luck

I can't since i have Colitis so no advil for me, if i get another flare up they might cut out my large intestine.

[drdnj]

I agree. you could try cutting it with some EQ or sterile oil. massage lots after injection, take some advil and ice.

good luck

Bro, I cut it 50% with sterile cotton seed oil.....cut it with Deca....nothing worked...
The BA BB ratio must be sooo off it is rediculous.....I make my own tren and have NO issues even at 5%.

BTW- the whole ice, advil bla bla ....this isnt a small "awww my leggies are so soreee I am a baby" type thing...this is I AM on the couch using ice and elevation to be able to walk.....
GARBAGE!

Again, sorry I am soooo pissed off ....I really am a nice guy.

[St]

Bro, I cut it 50% with sterile cotton seed oil.....cut it with Deca....nothing worked...
The BA BB ratio must be sooo off it is rediculous.....I make my own tren and have NO issues even at 5%.

BTW- the whole ice, advil bla bla ....this isnt a small "awww my leggies are so soreee I am a baby" type thing...this is I AM on the couch using ice and elevation to be able to walk.....
GARBAGE!

Again, sorry I am soooo pissed off ....I really am a nice guy.

How many ml per shot? 3 cc?

[Dk]

yah, i took a week off work from t400 quad pain.

near the end of the cycle it was painless though, youll get used to it

[drdnj]

How many ml per shot? 3 cc?


I started with 3cc of just T400 (1200mg)
then when I almost went cripple, I changed to two shots per week at 1.5cc

But just to let everyone know....I have NO issues with up to 4cc in my delts, with good gear.

[waderow]

perhaps it is crashing. maybe more solvent is required.

[drdnj]

perhaps it is crashing. maybe more solvent is required.

Can't see any crystals in it....it is in a heated house.


Here's an idea...maybe it needs to go in the F'in garbage!

D

[tiramisu]

I found warming the oil helped a bit as did 1.5" syringes in the glutes rather than the 1".

[drdnj]

I found warming the oil helped a bit as did 1.5" syringes in the glutes rather than the 1".

Thanks man...
Did the warming thing...but not glutes. I always use 1.5" needles anyhow, but I usually nail my quads.

Still pisses me off that this stuff is SOOOO debilitating.

[Mr Ontario]

time to pull your head out of your ass and stop being so cheap and buy some painless Human Grade :)

[hyperlite32]

are you going to keep running this stuff? what is your dose/shot scheme look like?

[Kilburn]

had the same thing, swelling, and pain so bad i could hardly walk first cycle for the first 4 weeks. it would take me nearly 20 mins to get across campus, normally it would take 2 minutes.

stop being a fuking bitch, suck it up princess, the longer you stay on the easier it becomes until eventually it's totally painless. or get some sterile oil to cut it with.

[srt8]

time to pull your head out of your ass and stop being so cheap and buy some painless Human Grade :)

Like what, human grade sust? That stuffs sure painless lmao

It's t400 for f's sake, its not supposed to feel great.

[drdnj]

time to pull your head out of your ass and stop being so cheap and buy some painless Human Grade :)

I like my head in my ass, it keeps you from trying to get your head in! LOL

But truthfully, I only ran HG all my life until everyone started raving about UG stuff...then tried Axio and it was great. I decided to try SA when everyone went crazy about how great they were....

[theboss]

i have always wanted to try T400 (probalby atalas)...but hear complaints about pain....i have no problem doing TNT (400mg), Test C (250mg), and EQ (300mg) all in 1 shot......i wonder if i could be ok with T400 then

[drdnj]

had the same thing, swelling, and pain so bad i could hardly walk first cycle for the first 4 weeks. it would take me nearly 20 mins to get across campus, normally it would take 2 minutes.

stop being a fuking bitch, suck it up princess, the longer you stay on the easier it becomes until eventually it's totally painless. or get some sterile oil to cut it with.

Hahha, Kilburn....like I said this isn't some punk noob complaining.....this stuff is SHIT. I have been competeing for 18yrs.....5'9" 235lbs, far from princess size--MORE LIKE A ****IN GALDIATOR (hahahahaha). I know the differences between injection pain and shitty gear.

IF YOU READ THE rest of the thread...I HAVE CUT IT, WARMED IT, you name it..... I am coming back from injury this summer, I dont have time to suck it up and not train legs.

[spinalcolum]

I am soooooo pissed off right now with SA crap. Testothate 400 has pretty much screwed my workouts since I started my bulk cycle 3 weeks ago.
I am sorry Bros, but I gave it an honest effort, got a complete array of gear to bulk and get ready for my upcoming competitive season, spent a ton of cash and now hate the shit.
I am a f#@king cripple, my legs are so swollen I look like I have elephantitis.

Sorry to rant but, I needed to get this out while I iced my legs.

D

The only time I did T400 Re d Sea, I couldnt walk up or down stairs for 2 weeks. Excruciating pain.
Never again for me.

[tex]

Hahha, Kilburn....like I said this isn't some punk noob complaining.....this stuff is SHIT. I have been competeing for 18yrs.....5'9" 235lbs, far from princess size--MORE LIKE A ****IN GALDIATOR (hahahahaha). I know the differences between injection pain and shitty gear.

IF YOU READ THE rest of the thread...I HAVE CUT IT, WARMED IT, you name it..... I am coming back from injury this summer, I dont have time to suck it up and not train legs.

if you've done all of that and you know its shit then why hop online and ask ppl's opinions on what to do? you said it yourself....youve been competing for 18 years!!!! you're a ****ing gladiator!!!!! suck it up or throw it in the garbage....i dont think creating a lab bashing thread is the thing to do tho.....cuz I have some sa product (test suspension) and it is not painful at all......not even a sting......

[natenator]

Hahha, Kilburn....like I said this isn't some punk noob complaining.....this stuff is SHIT. I have been competeing for 18yrs.....5'9" 235lbs, far from princess size--MORE LIKE A ****IN GALDIATOR (hahahahaha). I know the differences between injection pain and shitty gear.

IF YOU READ THE rest of the thread...I HAVE CUT IT, WARMED IT, you name it..... I am coming back from injury this summer, I dont have time to suck it up and not train legs.
Wow! You took it pretty easy on him. Too bad!

[natenator]

if you've done all of that and you know its shit then why hop online and ask ppl's opinions on what to do? you said it yourself....youve been competing for 18 years!!!! you're a ****ing gladiator!!!!! suck it up or throw it in the garbage....i dont think creating a lab bashing thread is the thing to do tho.....cuz I have some sa product (test suspension) and it is not painful at all......not even a sting......
He is entitled to post his experience is he not? How is it that everyone is allowed to rave and boast about a lab or a product but as soon as someone says something negative it's lab bashing? He's entitled to write about HIS experience.

[Diesel_250]

does SA us EO?

[waderow]

Can't see any crystals in it....it is in a heated house.


Here's an idea...maybe it needs to go in the F'in garbage!

D

putting 1200mg in one pin seems stupid.

[tex]

He is entitled to post his experience is he not? How is it that everyone is allowed to rave and boast about a lab or a product but as soon as someone says something negative it's lab bashing? He's entitled to write about HIS experience.

sure he is.....i just dont see many "gladiators" complaining about pain on the internet.....

[natenator]

sure he is.....i just dont see many "gladiators" complaining about pain on the internet.....
Pain is worthy of complaining about regardless of what size you are. The whole reason we take this shit is to aid us in our training. If we have to endure a month of pain and skipping workouts because of the gear then that's worthy of a bitch session.

But I do agree with the comments either put up with it or throw it out/offload to an unsuspecting fool :D

[Mr Ontario]

T-400 is what we are talking about here right? is not just test Enahate at a higher dosage? Then we are not talking about S250/sust then are we. We are talking about Test E. Test E Human grade is painless for most people or no where near what he is experiencing for pain.


Like what, human grade sust? That stuffs sure painless lmao

It's t400 for f's sake, its not supposed to feel great.

[Houstonbc]

i dont think its all about the pain here guys, the problem is when you're pinning painful gear and its causing you to not be able to train legs in his case its a big problem due to his upcoming competitive season.

Read the posts before you hop all over someone.

[Mr Ontario]

Yes! I agree...any other board and some that I have heard of would just delete your post.


He is entitled to post his experience is he not? How is it that everyone is allowed to rave and boast about a lab or a product but as soon as someone says something negative it's lab bashing? He's entitled to write about HIS experience.

[tex]

ummm....i was just giving him a hard time because i'm a prick.....and cuz i've used sa susp and it didnt hurt......perhaps he should use gear with a more reasonable concentration.....or try smaller injection volumes

[nisser]

It's a sign telling you you are using too much gear. 1200mg a shot? What are you runing 2.5g a week? Unless you're black, bald and grunt in a funny way you have no reason to use that much gear. :P

[drdnj]

It's a sign telling you you are using too much gear. 1200mg a shot? What are you runing 2.5g a week? Unless you're black, bald and grunt in a funny way you have no reason to use that much gear. :P

Thanks for the advice! Read the entire thread ---at no point did I claim using 2.5g of testothate per week.

[Namelessone]

...far from princess size--MORE LIKE A ****IN GALDIATOR ....

Post up some pics please. I'd like to see what a "Gladiator" that can't handle the T400 looks like... I'm no gladiator and I can handle it...

[nisser]

Thanks for the advice! Read the entire thread ---at no point did I claim using 2.5g of testothate per week.

I read the entire thread and you said you are pinning 4ml of T400 at a time. Why would someone with 18 years of experience do that? Most would split their dose into 2 per week and then you'd be cutting it with EQ/deca/tren whatever else you have.

everyone's hit or miss with t400, some can take it some can't. I can't pin more than 2 mls of it but luckily I never have to use more than 1cc of it per dose.

maybe explain how you were cutting it etc so we get a better idea. Cut it with deca/eq/tren and then pin 3ml. what have you tried exactly?

[natenator]

Post up some pics please. I'd like to see what a "Gladiator" that can't handle the T400 looks like... I'm no gladiator and I can handle it...
so you think size is relative to whether a person can handle a particular compound or concentration?

[Namelessone]

so you think size is relative to whether a person can handle a particular compound or concentration?

Did you pin yourself in the brain or something? Read his comment about him not being a "princess size" but rather a "Gladiator size"... Don't come looking for a fight with me bubba unless you plan on doing it in person.... I have no time for keyboard cowboys... Whoops there goes my aggression test... Better go see my doctor... LMAO! :ne

[nisser]

nevermind I misread that...even though I have no idea exactly what you tried Ill give some suggestions

1) cut it with deca/tren/eq 50% and pin 2cc in quad, then move to 3cc if there's no pain
2) shoot 1ml into delts/glues/chest uncut
3) shoot 2mls into delts/gluts/chest cut
4) let a buddy try it

i sometimes get funny reactions in my quads and always pin delts first when starting a new bottle

[natenator]

Did you pin yourself in the brain or something? Read his comment about him not being a "princess size" but rather a "Gladiator size"... Don't come looking for a fight with me bubba unless you plan on doing it in person.... I have no time for keyboard cowboys... Whoops there goes my aggression test... Better go see my doctor... LMAO! :ne
And I'm saying who cares what size has to do with it? What if he is bigger than you? Does it matter that the gear is causing him pain?

All he was saying by his original princess comment is that he isn't some 160lb kid who just started using and is experiencing pain. He is a vet of the game and the sport and not some newbie that isn't used to how one could/should react to gear.

[drdnj]

Did you pin yourself in the brain or something? Read his comment about him not being a "princess size" but rather a "Gladiator size"... Don't come looking for a fight with me bubba unless you plan on doing it in person.... I have no time for keyboard cowboys... Whoops there goes my aggression test... Better go see my doctor... LMAO! :ne

Wow! Forget it! This place is getting like bb.com.
Thanks to all who PMd me with help!

[drdnj]

And I'm saying who cares what size has to do with it? What if he is bigger than you? Does it matter that the gear is causing him pain?

All he was saying by his original princess comment is that he isn't some 160lb kid who just started using and is experiencing pain. He is a vet of the game and the sport and not some newbie that isn't used to how one could/should react to gear.

Thanks Natentor

[Namelessone]

And I'm saying who cares what size has to do with it? What if he is bigger than you? Does it matter that the gear is causing him pain?

All he was saying by his original princess comment is that he isn't some 160lb kid who just started using and is experiencing pain. He is a vet of the game and the sport and not some newbie that isn't used to how one could/should react to gear.

I'm glad to see you have such an intimate relationship with the guy. I never said he was a noob but when someone tries telling a site of hundreds/thousands of members they are a "Gladiator" I'd like to see what that person's interpretation of a Gladiator is. Thats a pretty strong classification to put yourself in...

I'll admit, I am a VIP with S.A. and thus my opinion might be somewhat bias but I have also been using the T400 for years. Ever since S.A. became S.A....

[natenator]

I'm glad to see you have such an intimate relationship with the guy. I never said he was a noob but when someone tries telling a site of hundreds/thousands of members they are a "Gladiator" I'd like to see what that person's interpretation of a Gladiator is. Thats a pretty strong classification to put yourself in...

I'll admit, I am a VIP with S.A. and thus my opinion might be somewhat bias but I have also been using the T400 for years. Ever since S.A. became S.A....
Man. Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with a downsyndrom kid except that they're a lot more intelligent and can grasp the simplest of concepts. You, however, cannot.

So let's see... you are a VIP with an company selling illegal products AND you post your true contact information via a facebook link.

You're about as sharp as a spoon.

[drdnj]

I'm glad to see you have such an intimate relationship with the guy. I never said he was a noob but when someone tries telling a site of hundreds/thousands of members they are a "Gladiator" I'd like to see what that person's interpretation of a Gladiator is. Thats a pretty strong classification to put yourself in...

I'll admit, I am a VIP with S.A. and thus my opinion might be somewhat bias but I have also been using the T400 for years. Ever since S.A. became S.A....

Ok bro please read why I made the gladiator comment--- it was a mere comedic rebuttal for being called a princess! I invite u to go back and see the original post. You are a little reactive bro....this thread has lost it's essence

[tex]

lol....holy ****....the brawl spilled over into this thread.....up the dose guys :)

[natenator]

lol

[Mr Ontario]

I use to call myself Superman if that's any consolidation lol :)

[tex]

Did you pin yourself in the brain or something? Read his comment about him not being a "princess size" but rather a "Gladiator size"... Don't come looking for a fight with me bubba unless you plan on doing it in person.... I have no time for keyboard cowboys... Whoops there goes my aggression test... Better go see my doctor... LMAO! :ne LOLOLOL.........that is awesome........pinned in the brain........i think i let a lil piss out in my shorts

[Seth]

Is this seasonal or what? Everyone on the board seem so edgy right now...

[powerrack]

How come stuff like equitest or TNT don't hurt as bad as just straight test400 type products? I've used tnt and equitest prods and I only get slight pain, nothing to complain about but with most straight test products I get some pretty intense soreness and lumps. I usually don't shoot more the 1mL per site.

[Blitz-Test]

I am soooooo pissed off right now with SA crap. Testothate 400 has pretty much screwed my workouts since I started my bulk cycle 3 weeks ago.
I am sorry Bros, but I gave it an honest effort, got a complete array of gear to bulk and get ready for my upcoming competitive season, spent a ton of cash and now hate the shit.
I am a f#@king cripple, my legs are so swollen I look like I have elephantitis.

Sorry to rant but, I needed to get this out while I iced my legs.

D

Why the hell would you get test400 if your not man enough to take the injections...

[Dk]

Why the hell would you get test400 if your not man enough to take the injections...

haha i take it youve never had one of these injections.

its only happened once to me where it was this bad. but i was off work for a week and literally couldnt get out of bed barely.

Even just sittin there doing nothing keeping it immobile, it would still throb, not to mention it swelled to the size of two of my legs

[natenator]

Why the hell would you get test400 if your not man enough to take the injections...
here we go. Another idiot that cannot read an entire thread before making comment.

[Namelessone]

Man. Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with a downsyndrom kid except that they're a lot more intelligent and can grasp the simplest of concepts. You, however, cannot.

So let's see... you are a VIP with an company selling illegal products AND you post your true contact information via a facebook link.

You're about as sharp as a spoon.

I said I was a VIP... Not a rep... Yeah I buy steroids... Go figure... I'll bet the feds would prefer I buy them than make them... Agreed?

Man you must be autistic... I'd love to fuking meet you in person after these posts of yours and others I've seen by you...

By the way Mr. Intelligent, down syndrome is two words and syndrome has an E on the end...

[St]

here we go. Another idiot that cannot read an entire thread before making comment.


Hey seems like you are flaming people have some respect.

[natenator]

I said I was a VIP... Not a rep... Yeah I buy steroids... Go figure... I'll bet the feds would prefer I buy them than make them... Agreed?

Man you must be autistic... I'd love to fuking meet you in person after these posts of yours and others I've seen by you...

By the way Mr. Intelligent, down syndrome is two words and syndrome has an E on the end...
Betcha had to look that up though eh? LOL

You keep talking like a real tough guy wanting to meet me, etc. I personally think your a fag. There's nothing wrong that though. We all have to be something right? It just so happens you prefer to putt from the ruff. It's all good dude.

Tell me though... do you need to use lube still or is your asshole big enough to go without? Nevermind... I already know the answer. You are indeed a big asshole :D

[natenator]

Hey seems like you are flaming people have some respect.
That was respectful. Why don't you bitch on blitz-test for making remarks without reading the entire thread first? Seems like he just wanted to jump on the bandwagon calling the guy a pussy.

[Namelessone]

Betcha had to look that up though eh? LOL

You keep talking like a real tough guy wanting to meet me, etc. I personally think your a fag. There's nothing wrong that though. We all have to be something right? It just so happens you prefer to putt from the ruff. It's all good dude.

Tell me though... do you need to use lube still or is your asshole big enough to go without? Nevermind... I already know the answer. You are indeed a big asshole :D

Yeah, I'll call you up and offer a blow job next time I eat dinner and need a toothpick...

I'm here in Toronto.... Where are you??? Put up or shut up...

[natenator]

Yeah, I'll call you up and offer a blow job next time I eat dinner and need a toothpick...

I'm here in Toronto.... Where are you??? Put up or shut up...
Ottawa here.

If you had of read enough posts from me like you claimed than you would have already read that.

[Namelessone]

Ok bro please read why I made the gladiator comment--- it was a mere comedic rebuttal for being called a princess! I invite u to go back and see the original post. You are a little reactive bro....this thread has lost it's essence

drdnj,

Let me make this clear to you. I meant no disrespect bro. I simply wanted to see what kind of a build you had going with such extensive training and a "gladiator" physic. I assure you, I would not have asked for a photo if you simply told us all you looked like a princess. LOL

[Namelessone]

Ottawa here.

If you had of read enough posts from me like you claimed than you would have already read that.

Ahhhh the beautiful city of Ottawa. Home to Canada's biggest bullshitters (politicians)... I often stay at the Brookstreet Hotel if you know it.

Well, you probably wouldn't, it doesn't come with a vibrating bed and cost $263 per night to stay there...

Now run along son. I think your mom is calling you... Or was that your wife? Probably the same thing...

[OntariOMuscle101]

I LOVE the T400......Im a Man, all i do is suck up the pain and take it. But maybe thats it .... i just suck it up and get pissed and wen it hurts more i get even more pissed .... ill really give my body something to F-ING pain about!!!!

[nisser]

lets all hug and be friends. A little gayness goes a long way :ilu

[OntariOMuscle101]

Im Kiddin .......but i never felt ne thing i loved t400....infact im on that and SA EQ & Wiiny and loving it....

[BDH]

Betcha had to look that up though eh? LOL

You keep talking like a real tough guy wanting to meet me, etc. I personally think your a fag. There's nothing wrong that though. We all have to be something right? It just so happens you prefer to putt from the ruff. It's all good dude.

Tell me though... do you need to use lube still or is your asshole big enough to go without? Nevermind... I already know the answer. You are indeed a big asshole :DYou know, I thought maybe it was just me being a dick, but you really are a ****ing dumbass...

[Random Letters]

This thread turned to shit in a hurry...

[Namelessone]

You know, I thought maybe it was just me being a dick, but you really are a ****ing dumbass...

Its ok Hammer. We'll just go play on facebook bro. See ya over there. Love the oldie pics you put up btw...

[natenator]

You know, I thought maybe it was just me being a dick, but you really are a ****ing dumbass...
Just trying to follow your fine example :D

[ironwill]

Im not doin T-400, from the looks of this thread it makes you get roid-rages, and gayish feelings and feelings of e-tuffness...lolol, and wanting to blow toothpicks...

[natenator]

^^ haha. Good comedy right there!

[ironwill]

lolol. im going to eat chinese food.....with a fork....:sup

[srt8]

T-400 is what we are talking about here right? is not just test Enahate at a higher dosage? Then we are not talking about S250/sust then are we. We are talking about Test E. Test E Human grade is painless for most people or no where near what he is experiencing for pain.

You are telling the guy to use humangrade because it's painless (kisses.......) Im saying using humangrade doesn't mean its painless, sustanon amps case in point.

If i used 90% of the labs out theres Test Enan 250 its gonna be painless too, i don't need to pay 2-3x as much for human grade. T400 is hit and miss, some labs have the right mix down and low enough ba and EO as carrier and alls fine, others don't.

[Namelessone]

Im not doin T-400, from the looks of this thread it makes you get roid-rages, and gayish feelings and feelings of e-tuffness...lolol, and wanting to blow toothpicks...

LMAO now THAT is funny shit...

[srt8]

How come stuff like equitest or TNT don't hurt as bad as just straight test400 type products? I've used tnt and equitest prods and I only get slight pain, nothing to complain about but with most straight test products I get some pretty intense soreness and lumps. I usually don't shoot more the 1mL per site.


Oh man lol, TNT hurts the MOST i find. Has gotta have something to do with the tren enan ester. T400 on the other hand with the right mix of test, solvent, carrier can be painless. SA's problem (now i know nothing about the product mentioned mostly assuming) is pure test enan or a 200/200 mix with to high of BA.

[St]

That was respectful. Why don't you bitch on blitz-test for making remarks without reading the entire thread first? Seems like he just wanted to jump on the bandwagon calling the guy a pussy.


Hey i have read the whole thread been on the site every day,and been here longer so don't tell me,i think you should leave the site if your not happy we don't need negative people here who flame all the time.

[natenator]

Hey i have read the whole thread been on the site every day,and been here longer so don't tell me,i think you should leave the site if your not happy we don't need negative people here who flame all the time.
I will flame those who feel the need to flame me or make stupid comments like blitz-test made by quoting the original post without reading the entire thread.

[St]

I will flame those who feel the need to flame me or make stupid comments like blitz-test made by quoting the original post without reading the entire thread.

Okay yes i seen the Blitz-test issue.All i can say is give PEACE and chance.
If there is no peaCe then meet on the 417 haha.

[natenator]

lol

[rufusrocks]

i would like to think that mistakes can happen and be rectified. it's in the best interest to always follow up. for both sides. i always see tell your rep. wherever you get you supps always go back if they don't honour your business move on. i've been screwed before and i always hear new guy sucker!!!! well it happens to us all but what goes around comes around.

so many opinions and explanations. i say stick with what works and don't change unless you have too.

my .4 cents

[drdnj]

drdnj,

Let me make this clear to you. I meant no disrespect bro. I simply wanted to see what kind of a build you had going with such extensive training and a "gladiator" physic. I assure you, I would not have asked for a photo if you simply told us all you looked like a princess. LOL


This is for namelessone--here's a photo, I will remove it soon after because i dont need my pics on this forum. I didn't want to resort to posting a pic, but since you insist and keep persisting here u go. NOW post one of you at your last competition!

[Namelessone]

Impressive, wouldn't say "Gladiator" per say... But impressive...

And I am not a competition body builder. In fact I don't even think that looks good to be completely honest. I like more so of the big smooth not veiny look... I don't like the "dryness" showing all the contours of each muscle... Just not my thing...

Hmmm... Picture a bouncer in a large nigh club... The kind of guy you look at and say "Wow what a monster"... Thats my preferred look...

[drdnj]

Impressive, wouldn't say "Gladiator" per say... But impressive...

And I am not a competition body builder. In fact I don't even think that looks good to be completely honest. I like more so of the big smooth not veiny look... I don't like the "dryness" showing all the contours of each muscle... Just not my thing...

Hmmm... Picture a bouncer in a large nigh club... The kind of guy you look at and say "Wow what a monster"... Thats my preferred look...


Ok...well post ur MONSTER bouncer pics then, I will post my off season pics...I am 200 on stage in that pic DO THE MATH!!!

[Mr Ontario]

You guy's still at her are you lol The guy looks good...better then most..how many people actually have the guts to get an stage or even make it there.

[kloan]

cool tat... and i'd say that's pretty impressive... i'm not a competitive bodybuilder myself... i like the 'off season' look more, but i can certainly appreciate all the hard work that goes into lookin like that.

[rufusrocks]

Ok...well post ur MONSTER bouncer pics then, I will post my off season pics...I am 200 on stage in that pic DO THE MATH!!!

hey bud good job in competing. i thought you guys ironed it out. if you got bad customer service talk to the rep.

keep the peace......

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don't ask for a fight you can't win..... bouncers never get chicks!!!!!

[Namelessone]

Ok...well post ur MONSTER bouncer pics then, I will post my off season pics...I am 200 on stage in that pic DO THE MATH!!!

I'm 230 lbs but far from as lean as you were in that pic. Was that from the 80s?

First let me correct you. I said that was my preferred look, I never said I was that monster body builder bouncer dude. Have I bounced? Yup, and I've thrown guys as big as you (in that 80s pic) out of the bars too...

I'll try to get you some new pics soon just for you sweetpea...

Photos removed...

Go figure, I tried to tell the guy I meant no disrespect and it gets me into an argument again. What is with these stage posers pinning their brain?

[L3]

pics

doesn't count if you flatten your biceps into the preacher bench :laugh

[Ritch]

I am going to give you my honest opinion of your physique. If saw you, I would not think you use steroids.

[Namelessone]

doesn't count if you flatten your biceps into the preacher bench :laugh

Well thats not the case but ok. I'll take one of those too...

[Namelessone]

I am going to give you my honest opinion of your physique. If saw you, I would not think you use steroids.

Whew, guess the LE will never catch me... Thanks...

[Houstonbc]

yeah man i think you need to cut down some b/f and then re think ragging on a guy who has a 10x better physique than you.

[Namelessone]

This was about 7-8 weeks before the so called flattened biceps photo on a major diet:

Photos removed...

I went to that from this fatass... (Notice the gut)
Photos removed...

[Namelessone]

yeah man i think you need to cut down some b/f and then re think ragging on a guy who has a 10x better physique than you.

Are you blind? Where did I rag on him? I simply said that body, whether you are in love with him or not, is not my cup of tea... Just like, I am POSITIVE, my goals are not the same as his...

[Namelessone]

Also, this was a private message I sent to the guy since some of you have a reading impairment...



Listen man. Lets settle this in private...

First and foremost, in that pic, you looked great for a contest type body builder. Yes its not my style but I'm sure you can appreciate someone else's opinion. I'm willing to bet the big stalky somewhat chubby style isnt your cup of tea... I do however respect the insane amount of work it must have taken you to get to that stage and I applaud you... Bravo, well done.

[Houstonbc]

whatever i just interepreted it wrong i guess

[drdnj]

Thanks for the support Bros... Sorry for the fact that this thread "railroaded" into this B.S. Not my intentions!

Let's close this thread once and for all, several points have been made and it's time to sleep.
My Best,
D

[Van Zan]

I love this thread!! I saw drnj pic and I give 1000 points for that

[rufusrocks]

isn't this about a bad reaction to some supps? namelessone don't run away. i thought this forum was to inform, help and motivate. you guys gotta man up and be repsonsible, if we F!!!! or own people what do we have? Damn it... stop the bull crap!!! drdnj i believe you think you were wronged!!!! and if he was then it should be taken care of period. drdnj talk to your supp and fix it. i'm sure it was a mistake. i'm sick and tired of reading this crap... fix it... in my eyes both missed the boat.... never flame a supp company until you have exhausted all chances to fix the problem and if a supplier screws somone then all bets are off period!!!!

whoever screwed up fix this!!!! Gus i know you are pensive how can this be solved...

i'm so piss!! off right now. think i'm a twirp 20 years ago i was doing adds for the muscle factory in the Toronto Sun and I have been on a Canadian stamp. i just amped up do the bloody same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gustavo77]

Gus i know you are pensive how can this be solved...

Not sure what you mean by this...but if he wants to get the issue resolved he needs to contact his rep.. i am not a rep, so i cannot fix anything.. if the rep does not fix it, then he needs to deal with another rep or lab...

Some of Sa's gear is painful for some individuals, myself included.. i am very sensitive to high dosed injects, so what do I do?? I stay away from the t-400 and test prop 200 etc...save those for the guys who can handle the concentration.

I just finished up a bottle of some of the new SA test E 300mg/ml and am now using some Galenika test E at approx the same dosage...the transition from the SA test E to the ICN Galenika was very smooth, i did not get a huge boost from the Galenika, just the same good results i was getting on the SA test E...this indicates to me that the SA test E 300 is properly dosed. As for inject pain, it is painless for me...the t-400 was not painless for me either..:(

Just to finish up my 3cc in this thread... i have never heard of a painless t-400 from any lab...so you can;t go and blame a lab for something that is inevitable.

[Namelessone]

Not sure what you mean by this...but if he wants to get the issue resolved he needs to contact his rep.. i am not a rep, so i cannot fix anything.. if the rep does not fix it, then he needs to deal with another rep or lab...


Bingo... And you know Gus, in my private message (which he still has not even responded too) I offered to try and help him get the problem resolved. Again, he never even replied so I guess

A) He just wants to bitch and complain with no resolution
B) He can't even accept the compliment in private he would rather fight in public

What is the point in even trying to help someone that doesn't want to be helped.

Furthermore, I can't even say this site isn't run well because lately its not run at all. This place is going to the shitter real quick. I remember when MP first opened it and we came over here to check it out from SSB. It was a pretty darn cool place to be... So much for those days...

[Namelessone]

namelessone don't run away. i thought this forum was to inform, help and motivate.

I've tried, those that appreciate my help (in many ways) know me and know me well. We speak through other mediums such as email and facebook. Lately this site has a bunch of guys that seem to wakeup in the morning with the goal to argue... As for motivation, I need no help from no one in that regard. I lost almost 70 pounds in a year. Whether any of these guys like my body or not I am my own motivation... I train with the sole goal to impress myself and no one else.. Its a pretty good feeling when you can rely on yourself for social stability and not need the help of everyone looking at you...

[rufusrocks]

Not sure what you mean by this...but if he wants to get the issue resolved he needs to contact his rep.. i am not a rep, so i cannot fix anything.. if the rep does not fix it, then he needs to deal with another rep or lab...

Some of Sa's gear is painful for some individuals, myself included.. i am very sensitive to high dosed injects, so what do I do?? I stay away from the t-400 and test prop 200 etc...save those for the guys who can handle the concentration.

I just finished up a bottle of some of the new SA test E 300mg/ml and am now using some Galenika test E at approx the same dosage...the transition from the SA test E to the ICN Galenika was very smooth, i did not get a huge boost from the Galenika, just the same good results i was getting on the SA test E...this indicates to me that the SA test E 300 is properly dosed. As for inject pain, it is painless for me...the t-400 was not painless for me either..:(

Just to finish up my 3cc in this thread... i have never heard of a painless t-400 from any lab...so you can;t go and blame a lab for something that is inevitable.


you answered my concern. i wish the other parties would fix it. this forum is a benefit not a detriment and let's keep it that way!!!!

[rufusrocks]

I've tried, those that appreciate my help (in many ways) know me and know me well. We speak through other mediums such as email and facebook. Lately this site has a bunch of guys that seem to wakeup in the morning with the goal to argue... As for motivation, I need no help from no one in that regard. I lost almost 70 pounds in a year. Whether any of these guys like my body or not I am my own motivation... I train with the sole goal to impress myself and no one else.. Its a pretty good feeling when you can rely on yourself for social stability and not need the help of everyone looking at you...

bud that's all you gotta do. hey man all the power to you. if you got friends here i'm sure they don't want you to go and repsect you. i always look forward to visiting this site good or bad.

it's worth it.... made a couple of friends and hopefully no enemies... don't always say the right thing but i mean well heck man who wants to be around the TREN-(dy) or grumpy people all the time... haha

my Dad always told me blessed are the peacemakers i think that was from the bible though.

[rated_rko]

i got sum t400 ill be using it in a month or so

[drdnj]

Ok guys just to set the record straight:
I talked to my rep before starting the thread... Got the same story about high dose test. This was not satisfactory--- I will now disclose the actual medical details. In 4 injections, I received 2 independent cases of cellulitis. I am on antibiotics and it is nearly cleared up. I know how to inject, so no flames on technique issues on my behalf.
I must have got a batch or bottle of dirty gear or it is my reaction to their product. Either way, i feel justified to be emphatic.

Like most threads, it stirred up the pot --- this was not my intention, I promise. In fact, the pot was stirred by namelessone wanting pics etc etc and other personal vendettas (beyond the scope the thread).
Namelessone: I did not respond to your PM, because:1) it is obvious you have no respect for me and I can appreciate that, so I will deal with my own rep; 2) Your abrasive approach turns me away from discussing anything close to personal with you. Please don't take offence, I just choose to remain anonymous with certain people/types.

In closing, thanks to those who gave input!
Sorry to all those who rep SA or use it with great success.

[Kronis]

Ok guys just to set the record straight:
I talked to my rep before starting the thread... Got the same story about high dose test. This was not satisfactory--- I will now disclose the actual medical details. In 4 injections, I received 2 independent cases of cellulitis. I am on antibiotics and it is nearly cleared up. I know how to inject, so no flames on technique issues on my behalf.
I must have got a batch or bottle of dirty gear or it is my reaction to their product. Either way, i feel justified to be emphatic.

Like most threads, it stirred up the pot --- this was not my intention, I promise. In fact, the pot was stirred by namelessone wanting pics etc etc and other personal vendettas (beyond the scope the thread).
Namelessone: I did not respond to your PM, because:1) it is obvious you have no respect for me and I can appreciate that, so I will deal with my own rep; 2) Your abrasive approach turns me away from discussing anything close to personal with you. Please don't take offence, I just choose to remain anonymous with certain people/types.

In closing, thanks to those who gave input!
Sorry to all those who rep SA or use it with great success.

not sure why this thread caused so much shit. These products aren't made in a million dollar lab; it's very likely that one of the thousands of bottles got ****ed up. Also, SA had a problem with T400 in the past and I think they may have even discontinued that product. Everything else by them has been very well received.

No need for personal attacks.

edit: Namelessone, I'm sure you don't mean to be rude but change your stupid yellow sig that bashes the board. At least you took down the direct link to your facebook profile.

[St]

Ok guys just to set the record straight:
I talked to my rep before starting the thread... Got the same story about high dose test. This was not satisfactory--- I will now disclose the actual medical details. In 4 injections, I received 2 independent cases of cellulitis. I am on antibiotics and it is nearly cleared up. I know how to inject, so no flames on technique issues on my behalf.
I must have got a batch or bottle of dirty gear or it is my reaction to their product. Either way, i feel justified to be emphatic.

Like most threads, it stirred up the pot --- this was not my intention, I promise. In fact, the pot was stirred by namelessone wanting pics etc etc and other personal vendettas (beyond the scope the thread).
Namelessone: I did not respond to your PM, because:1) it is obvious you have no respect for me and I can appreciate that, so I will deal with my own rep; 2) Your abrasive approach turns me away from discussing anything close to personal with you. Please don't take offence, I just choose to remain anonymous with certain people/types.

In closing, thanks to those who gave input!
Sorry to all those who rep SA or use it with great success.

You can always re-filter your stuff if you like.

[tiramisu]

Ignoring the pissing match in the middle my friend did a vial of the sa T-400 deca/test-e and although he found it a bit painful he liked the price and the potency. He got used to the discomfort and was a bit disappointed that they pulled it. I can understand based on the complaining why sa wouild discontinue and sell the 300 mg/ml at essentially the same price. 25% more money for less complaining.


If I had a choice I'd probably just home brew my own t-400 with ba/bb and save my money for hgh.

[Namelessone]

Like most threads, it stirred up the pot --- this was not my intention, I promise. In fact, the pot was stirred by namelessone wanting pics etc etc and other personal vendettas (beyond the scope the thread).
Namelessone: I did not respond to your PM, because:1) it is obvious you have no respect for me and I can appreciate that, so I will deal with my own rep; 2) Your abrasive approach turns me away from discussing anything close to personal with you. Please don't take offence, I just choose to remain anonymous with certain people/types.

You really need to get your head out of your ass and try to see the light of day. You got what? 3 pages? Of people bitching at your thread? And I come in on the 3rd page and now *I* stirred the pot here?

And for the record, I never asked one single thing personal about you in that private message. I asked if you contacted your rep and if you threw the gear out. I don't know you or care to ever know you. So far I don't even like you... Therefore I don't want to know anything personal about you... All I was doing was 1) Trying to end this bullshit in private and tell you *I DO* respect all the work you've done... 2) Help you in any way I can resolve the S.A. gear problem.

How you got I am asking personal information from that is beyond me...

Listen, you got a bottle of gear you can't handle and you don't want help getting it replaced. Deal with it and move on. Life is too short to cry about it all day...

[Big D]

So When Is This Going To End ?

[natenator]

Never I hope. Good comedy :D

[tiramisu]

If I went to the doctor with a swollen bump on my ass 2 days after injecting an uncontrolled substance the symptoms (inflamation of the fatty tissue - cellulitis) and the fact that I injected myself with an uncontrolled substance would definitely make my doctor want me to do some antibiotics.

That said the volume of ba/bb in solution that we are talking about seems to me to preclude living bacteria known to man.

Dead bacteria/pieces and other odd chemicals are not as obviously removed by basic filtering and alcohol so trust in the bottler and the unknown chemical supplier behind him/her is a seperate issue to come to terms with.

[canadianmuscle0803]

test300 FTW.

[shithead]

This is ridiculous, this thread puts a stain on this board. I'm embarrassed.

[Namelessone]

This is ridiculous, this thread puts a stain on this board. I'm embarrassed.

I agree, thats why I tried to end it while at the time time help the guy IN PRIVATE... He still took it to this thread...

[natenator]

I agree, thats why I tried to end it while at the time time help the guy IN PRIVATE... He still took it to this thread...
Dude... I am far from the right person to say this but seriously... just let it go. Making more posts about this just makes you look silly and I would know given our "fun" of the other day.

[canadianmuscle0803]

everyone should stop posting in this thread, its getting ridiculous.

[phatkid77]

well, i am curious tho.. 1- 1200mg shot of enanthate..what the cycle look like? thats nuts...

and i think people ignored GUSTAVOS post.. he did gear that crippled him at .5cc...his frined used the SAME BOTTLE at 1.5cc..NO PAIN...

side effects and results on gear are VER INDEPENDENT..

phats

[mikeok]

unfortunately threads like this is whut bb has become
someone had a bad reaction to some juice posted about it and supporters of that lab ripped into him
in all honesty ive never tried SA products so i cant comment on them but i do believe no product should hurt enough that u can hardly walk
its just a shame cause the second u post negative thoughts about a lab its suuporters rip into you or accuse you of working for another lab

[Blitz-Test]

That was respectful. Why don't you bitch on blitz-test for making remarks without reading the entire thread first? Seems like he just wanted to jump on the bandwagon calling the guy a pussy.

The thread has like 120posts lol ill read it once I retire...

Anyways I wove you long time, 5 dolla


How did I jump on the band wagon if I just read the first post lol... I wouldnt know what everyone else was doing..

[CBB loves Japan]

he can rant if he wants to, it's pretty much a fre board in that respect. The gear is painless to most people, but you don't hear about that, only the compaints generally are seen, and then the supposrters oppse them. Im sure if everyone with good experiences were allowed to post positive comments the board would be plasted with commets about SA, ***** and others.

The bad comment posted = 1000 positive comments not posted i mean check out the polls, people after awhile you will get used to it.

[D-S]

Most likely it was due to the EO in the mixture, EO is a gift from god for some, but the devils broomstick up the ass with his spit as lube for others

[rated_rko]

whats this talk about fake t400 i have a bottle i bought a while ago havent pinned with it...how do i know if its fake or not?

[gustavo77]

whats this talk about fake t400 i have a bottle i bought a while ago havent pinned with it...how do i know if its fake or not?

There was no fake t-400, just users who complained that it was underdosed...old news...

[pinhead]

longest aas thread ever

And it's the first time I saw it.

lol

[rated_rko]

thanks for the response gustavo

[gustavo77]

thanks for the response gustavo

Anytime bro...

[Gettin'r'round]

Most likely it was due to the EO in the mixture, EO is a gift from god for some, but the devils broomstick up the ass with his spit as lube for others

Truer words have never been typed.

[Solo59]

Just to add to this overlong thread, I have used or am using SA's Test prop 200 ml/mg, Masteron 150mg/ml, EQ 300 mg/ml, and Testothate 400 mg/ml and none have caused me any notable, pain, suffering, or swelling. When I first used the the Test prop I did get an ache around the injection site but it was gone in a day. Since then, no more aches worth noting.

It may be just individual difference but injecting technique matters, too. You've got get that spike in the whole one and half inches and you've got to hold it steady, slow inject, and withdraw smoothly. Some even warm the oil before injecting (but not in the nuker). It helps to massage the area afterwards to spread the oil around a bit too.

Solo

[Gettin'r'round]

Nothing could make EO painless. Even cutting 50/50 with plain oil only made is less painful, but still a bitch nonetheless.
Say no to EO! lol

[dku]

Can someone PM me what SA stands for? I know of two labs with the initials SA.

[champcar99]

SA = sore ass

[St]

Sa=Super anabolic.

[Namelessone]

Stinky Anus

[gustavo77]

Stinky Anus

Nice...

[bigpapapump2016]

This thread was hilarious to read, thank you everyone!!! hahahaha

[Namelessone]

Nice...

Sinky Anus Labs bro...

Gear is Da Shit Yo!

haha

[gustavo77]

Announcement, New Lab Formed By Merger:

Stinky Analtech Labs Inc...SA Inc...hahahaha...

[Namelessone]

Announcement, New Lab Formed By Merger:

Stinky Analtech Labs Inc...SA Inc...hahahaha...

lol hey wait a minute there big guy you didn't consult my lawyer... LOL

I'm getting the feeling with your new anal lab I'm going to take it in the ass on this deal... ROFL!!!

[Kronis]

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10070/hibyeya6.gif

[gustavo77]

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10070/hibyeya6.gif

I love that scene..

[gustavo77]

lol hey wait a minute there big guy you didn't consult my lawyer... LOL

I'm getting the feeling with your new anal lab I'm going to take it in the ass on this deal... ROFL!!!

Lawyer?? You hold stock in this shit?? Oh ya, i forgot, you're an SA junkie aren't you??... oh..oh... better send out the popo...

[Namelessone]

Lawyer?? You hold stock in this shit?? Oh ya, i forgot, you're an SA junkie aren't you??... oh..oh... better send out the popo...

LMAO... I'm not a junkie if I'm willing to admit my addiction... haha

[gustavo77]

LMAO... I'm not a junkie if I'm willing to admit my addiction... haha

Wrong...an alkie is still an alkie whether he admits it or not...just the way it is...acceptance bro is the key..lol..

[Namelessone]

Wrong...an alkie is still an alkie whether he admits it or not...just the way it is...acceptance bro is the key..lol..

LMAO buddy your cracking me up tonight man... Did you inject 1CC of SA Funny400?

[gustavo77]

LMAO buddy your cracking me up tonight man... Did you inject 1CC of SA Funny400?

Nope... the baby is at the grandparents and me and the wifey are off to Ohio in the morning to the Classic...pretty stoked...but ya, i had one or two..only two....haha..

BTW...love the sig bro...only way to go is stinky...stinky anal for the win!

[Descimus]

Blah

There i am part of the story too.. gnight..

[Namelessone]

Nope... the baby is at the grandparents and me and the wifey are off to Ohio in the morning to the Classic...pretty stoked...but ya, i had one or two..only two....haha..

BTW...love the sig bro...only way to go is stinky...stinky anal for the win!

lol well I hope you have a great time bro. Email me some pics on my safe-mail when you get back!