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physique
23-01-2009, 12:28 AM
recently had the opportunity to speak with a South African doctor about Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) for steroid users coming off of a cycle. My previous thoughts on this topic are probably the most widely published PCT on the internet, but I’m always looking for more information on the topic. It’s a very poorly researched area, and although I think Dr. Michael Scally’s take on this topic is interesting, I can’t help but realize that he has a huge vested financial interest in his PCT program (and as a result, uses exclusively drugs on which the patent has expired).

PCT, as you probably know, is important for A.I.D.S. and Cancer research, as well as for bodybuilders and athletes who are coming off steroids. Really, it is important for any area of medicine which anabolic steroids are used in, because eventually, most people have to come off. Even Jose Canseco.

During the course of my conversation with my new South African friend, he mentioned Ovidrel, which I admitted that I hadn’t heard about before. Essentially, it’s recombinant HCG, or a “next-generation” HCG product. This doctor knew what he was talking about;
it’s much more stable after re-constitution than regular HCG, and seems to have other advantages too.

The thing that really caught my eye was that it’s effects as a stand-alone anabolic and as stand-alone Hormone Replacement Therapy have already been studied:

[Orvidrel]r-hCG significantly increased body weight (approximately 1 kg; P < 0.05) and lean body mass ( approximately 2 kg; P < 0.001) and reduced fat mass (approximately 1 kg, P < 0.05).... Total and free testosterone and estradiol were markedly (150%; P < 0.001) and stably increased...

Of course, the study I looked at was three months long, and by the end of the study, it showed that muscle was gained, fat was lost, and testosterone went up, but it eventually decreased LH and FSH levels, which is the same thing we’d expect from being on regular HCG for three months too. But in truth, r-HCG still seems to have a decided edge over regular HCG for several reasons.

Another study looked at insulin sensitivity and other areas and stated:

We conclude that three-Months of treatment with r-hCG demonstrates expected hormonal effects, improved lipids and did not worsen vascular endothelial function. Insulin sensitivity was not altered despite suggestive changes in body composition. CONCLUSIONS: These findings suggest short-term metabolic and cardiovascular safety and argue against an important role for androgens in the hormonal control of insulin sensitivity in older men.

It may be time for HCG to be replaced in post-cycle therapy with r-hCG, but as I’ve said, there are very few studies on the topic, and more research is probably needed. Really, there isn’t much scientific data on Post-Cycle Therapy at all, which is a shame because it is very important medically, and not just to illicit steroid users.

Diesel_250
23-01-2009, 12:37 AM
great post, thanks

tarnow
23-01-2009, 12:45 AM
Interesting, is Orvidrel approved by Health Canada or the FDA?

RagingRandy
23-01-2009, 11:01 PM
It looks like it is approved in Ontario

http://www.healthyontario.com/DrugDetails.aspx?brand_id=4813&brand_name=Ovidrel

z83
24-01-2009, 12:13 PM
good information, thanks

gixxman
24-01-2009, 10:04 PM
thanks for the info physique....i agree with u that allot of people overlook pct...which i feel should be looked at by users as closely as they do when preparing cycles...thanks again

4031
25-01-2009, 08:56 PM
good post bro!

hugh mungus
26-01-2009, 12:35 AM
good read physique!

physique
26-01-2009, 11:47 PM
dont thank me. i found it on anthony roberts site. just thought it would be good info for cbb

Drummer
26-01-2009, 11:59 PM
ahhh ol' anthony roberts... lets see where this goes... ive had many coverstations with anthony regarding PCT protocols, and we spoke about details in my PCT thread. He is no doctor to be sure, but does however have a lot of practical experience. True Phd's would scoff at some of what he says, while regular people can learn something.


~DB~

tony_canuck
29-01-2009, 01:56 PM
hmm interesting....