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physique
22-01-2009, 11:37 PM
wasnt sure where to post this. but was browsing around and found it very interesting. for those who would want to make their own "LEGAL" topical solutions.

Make your own transdermal formula with our proprietary topical delivery solution utilizing OHV technology. This solution is sold WITHOUT any active ingredients. This topical solution is designed to be used by those who choose to add their own active ingredients. We recommend this product only for advanced users who are experienced in chemical compounding.

Instructions

Only use compounds with a molecular weight (MW) of less than 500. Best results will be obtained from using ingredients with a MW of less than 300. Generally, the lower the MW, the better the absorption. Only use the pure ingredients, without other binders, fillers, oils, or solvents. Most compounds with a MW of less than 300 will be absorbed at a 30-40% rate over 12 hours.

To check MW of your ingredients go to –


www.chemfinder.com
www.chemindustry.com
Before you start, you will need :

One bottle OHV Topical Solution & active ingredients
500ml Beaker/Pyrex & Pan *
Gram Scale *
Hand Mixer & pan
Note: Supplies can be purchased at www.lemelange

1. Weigh out 5-6 grams of ingredients. Adding more than 6 grams of ingredients will most likely not dissolve in the solution, and therefore will not absorb through the skin.


Adding 6gm will give you ~27mg/ml
Adding 5gm will give you ~23mg/ml



2. Pour OHV Topical solution (215ml) into 500ml Beaker or Pyrex.


3. Add ingredients to the OHV topical solution. Stir mixture well until powder is evenly dispersed and solution becomes a milky white.


4. Fill a pan half-full with water or until water line meets the fill line with Beaker/Pyrex when submerged. Heat water on LOW until it becomes hot. DO NOT BOIL WATER. Once water is hot, submerge beaker into the pan and mix with hand-mixer for several minutes until solution is no longer clumpy. DO NOT LEAVE UNATTENDED.
Caution: The OHV contains volatile chemicals that will explode if exposed to spark or flame. Do not smoke or light matches next to the OHV solution!


5. Remove beaker from hot water and let cool 10-15 minutes before pouring solution into bottle.
Caution: If bottled and shaken when the solution is hot, the bottle will build pressure and may explode.


6. Once cooled and filled, replace top with pump. Label bottle with content description, concentration, and date. Topical will last up to 2 years.
Note: If storing for long periods of time (2 months or longer), keep original cap on the bottle to prevent solvents from evaporating out of the solution.

Ritch
22-01-2009, 11:41 PM
You should brew some up and sell it on your site!

physique
23-01-2009, 12:37 AM
You should brew some up and sell it on your site!

any ideas? lol

i see this recipe as a pain in the ass for anything more then 1 personal bottle.

#8
23-01-2009, 09:57 AM
great post physique.

how well do transdermals work in comparison to inj or oral?

do you only use it pre workout on the muscles you are about to train?

L3
23-01-2009, 10:37 AM
they are shitty in comparison


Most compounds with a MW of less than 300 will be absorbed at a 30-40% rate over 12 hours


im pretty sure youre supposed to spread it over as large area as possible, while switching up the areas to avoid skin irritation. you dont have to spot apply it to the muscles you are working.

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EDIT:
i think a good use for this would be for topically applying anavar (burns, scarring, acne, strech marks, etc). it has a MW of 306g/mol so it would be ideal. that being said, i dunno if you would have to get the raw powder or if you can just crush the shit out of some pills. my buddy has crushed pills and used a suspension liquid, said he had good results

Ritch
23-01-2009, 01:56 PM
I think dermabolics makes a spray bottle like what you are describing here it`s called transport matrix, and some people add stuff like powedered ATP, 7OXO, and all the various prohormones that were available back in the day. Of course all you need is a source for the real shit, and that`s where lies the real problem.
So any ideas you ask? Sure but they will all get you in trouble.

L3
23-01-2009, 02:37 PM
any ideas? lol


how about m1t?
MW = 302.451g/mol

if you mix 5000mg into solution, youd be getting 8mg absorbtion per 1ml (35% of 23mg/ml) which is a very decent dose for m1t


seriously though...we could be on to something here! can soemeone with a better knowlege of chemistry chime in?
:hu

srt8
23-01-2009, 06:50 PM
the above transdermal bottle is for stuff you DONT want to get in your blood stream. A topical fatburner, or a topical join pain reliever. If your looking for something transdermal rather then a injectable to make yourself like test base, tren base, 1-test etc, off the top of my head you need this;

250ml bottle = 15g max hormones
40% isopropyl
30% isopropyl myristrate
10% dmso
10% oleic acid
10% propylene glycol


Use no more then 15g total hormone for this. Mix all chemicals together, add in your hormone powder and heat in beaker/measuring cup in a hot water bath.

I used to use a salon selective spray bottle that was throughly cleaned out, it was 7 sprays per 1ml.

srt8
23-01-2009, 06:53 PM
how about m1t?
MW = 302.451g/mol

if you mix 5000mg into solution, youd be getting 8mg absorbtion per 1ml (35% of 23mg/ml) which is a very decent dose for m1t


seriously though...we could be on to something here! can soemeone with a better knowlege of chemistry chime in?
:hu



m1t is best used oral, i guess you could avoid some liver toxity by taking transdermally, but i don't really see a reason for this personally. Just stock up on your liver supplements.

srt8
23-01-2009, 06:53 PM
And i say best used orally becuse shooting m1t is like shooting tobasco sauce on steroids pardon my pun

spritz0
14-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Anyone know a source for any TREN prohormone in Vancouver?? Message me, OK...

Houstonbc
14-06-2009, 07:02 PM
read the rules bro....

St
14-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Anyone know a source for any TREN prohormone in Vancouver?? Message me, OK...

GNC has them set up across the country.:)

WRJ
15-06-2009, 01:35 AM
Anyone know a source for any TREN prohormone in Vancouver?? Message me, OK...

Wow.....bravo my friend, bravo :beat

cdnsoldier
16-06-2009, 09:48 PM
Anyone know a source for any TREN prohormone in Vancouver?? Message me, OK...

Come to Ontario. All anabolics are OTC.

cdnsoldier
16-06-2009, 09:49 PM
great post physique.

how well do transdermals work in comparison to inj or oral?

do you only use it pre workout on the muscles you are about to train?

They don't. It's a lot of trouble for what? To avoid a needle?
Most anabolics have a molecular weight of 300-400 but seriously why bother? You can't beat IM.